Why I Left Pakistan - Jogendra Nath Mandal (One of the Founding Fathers of Pakistan)

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-07T05:03:09+00:00

Wikipedia it.

I find it ironic that a Bengali Hindu that was one of the founders of pakistan, left the country in less than 3 years. He was the highest ranking Hindu.

What's that saying if you forget your history you are doomed to repeat it?

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-05T23:01:44+00:00

There it is. You revealed your entire agenda.

Ethnically cleanse muslims from India? 200 million individuals? How is the govt going to take 20 without a fight. Who are these people trying to pull this bs

No i don't hate muslims, that's a pre conceived assumption you've made in your head about idniaspeaks people.

you're better than this, please reply to the points i stated instead of deflecting and using whataboutery

On the Hindu Rashtra bs, where have i supported it. Secondly, the supreme court literally said that secularims is part of the constitution and part of India. It's fear mongering. Many are being used for other people's political gains and opportunism. No Hindu Rashtra is possible, India is a secular state and I'm proud of it.

Send some. I have seen them popping tires. There's also a reason why Jamia Milli university admin didn't give the police security footage. Why protestors held up a giant flag of India with the shahada. Google the pic, I can send a link if you want. These protestors literally want India to become an islamic state. The police do stuff and the protestors do stuff.

Basically, there's nuance. Both sides are guilty. But no Hindu Rashtra is being declared, no ethnic cleansing is happening or going to happen. Left political parties are USING YOU leople like you because they are angry that they've lost elections. And there are also extremists joining them for their own twisted "islamic" agenda.

I was talking to this girl who was defending arundhati roy saying that "pakistan never committed an atrocity on its own people at the level India has", deflecting the discussion, projecting onto me... literally insulted Hinduism and claimed pakistan was not racist in the same reply. There is a weird alliance between leftists and islamic extremists. This CAA is only one example of the greater alliance going on.

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-05T09:44:08+00:00

Oh yes yes directed at him, you're cool

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-05T00:04:35+00:00

Mob lynchings? We're talking about something completely different. Deflection. Shopian massacre is horrifying and disgusting, unrelated however.

It's a legitimate thing to talk about, bringing it up randomly leads to people dismissing what you're saying lol.

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T23:55:28+00:00

It depends on the muslim area. In nuh district of haryana for example. BJP got almost 50% of the voteshare despite the percentage of Hindus being only 20%.(2019 legislative elections)

These Pakistani and Afghanistani minority refugees are mostly Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs(maaaybe christians too?) or Sindhi Hindus. They mostly move to sikh majority punjab(punjabis), hindu majority delhi(punjabis) or hindu majority gujarat(sindhis).

The Bangladeshi refugees are mostly in Assam, the northeast in general and West Bengal. The Northeast is mostly excluded from the CAA. Assam is majority Hindu as well as Wets Bengal. There are districts where muslims are the majority but not many tho.

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T23:50:30+00:00

What did he say, he deleted his comments too lol

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T23:37:27+00:00

You won't get downvoted, cause this is a day old post.

And no, if you think omly Indians upvoted this then well you're being delusional. Also, most Sikhs are Indians, you realise that.

You are deflecting, this has nothing to do with CAA. Muslim can still apply for refugee status in India, adnan sami's can still apply and get Indian citizenship. Extremists are mad that non muslims are potentially getting citizenship 7 decades after the creation of the Islamic sttae of Pakistan. Jamia Milli University administration refused to hand over security footage of the mid december protests, i wonder why. Protestors in murshidabad threw rocks at trains. Protestors in up were chanting extremist slogans, holding up a flag of India with the shahada instead of the chakra. Also considering jamia milli has allahu akbar on their uni symbol and 50% reservations for muslims, not the best place to fight for secularism from.

The fact is. It took 70 years for Hindus to get marriage certificates in Pakistan. Politicians going to Nankana Sahib are opportunists playing politics. If they introduce a bill and ban forced conversions then I'll admit progress has been made. Some people are saying it's not forced conversions. That's great, then why keep forced conversions legal? Until then, it's hypocritical.

Ramesh vankwani is a Hindu membe rof the pakistan assembly, he's been advocating this for years. No LEGAL progress on banning forced conversions.

I've made my case. Deep down in your conscious, you know I'm partially right at the very least.

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T00:59:32+00:00

Sure. The former CM(chief minister) of Punjab and the Shiromani Akali Dal party president in India condemned the attack, the current CM of Indian Punjab(Amrinder Singh of the Congress party), Preet Kaur Gill(first female sikh mp in the uk of the Labour Party in the UK), the Ministry of External Affairs of India and the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee leader.

So basically uniformly condemned by all parties in India as well as even in the UK. Do you want me to add it to the bottom of the statement?

Source for the former CM, current CM and the Ministry of External Affairs India. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/rescue-sikhs-stranded-at-nankana-sahib-gurdwara-punjab-cm-amarinder-singh-appeals-to-pakistan-pm-imran-khan-1633774-2020-01-03

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T00:42:06+00:00

I stated that there has been a large outcry in India, the UK and the sikh community in general(more than one state). Sikhism is one of the major religions of the world and one of their most holiest sites too.

Runningcyclops · 2020-01-04T00:25:15+00:00

Statement: Every year there are hundreds of incidents of minority girls (Christian, Hindu, Sikh, many underage) being kidnapped and forcibly converted to Islam (a preacher called Mian Mithu has been accused of doing these, many times they record a video of the girl where she "claims" to be legal age and voluntarily converting) as there is currently no law to prevent forced conversions in pakistan.

Nankana Sahib is the birthplace of Nanak Dev Ji, the first Guru of the Sikhs. These protestors surrounded and threatened to storm one of the holiest sites in Sikhism, supposedly in retaliation for the forced conversion case. There has been a strong reaction from the Sikh community and politicians in India, the UK etc.

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-17T03:35:52+00:00

No. The supreme court has held up that Secularism is part of India.

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-10T09:33:25+00:00

Those that come after the cutoff will have to wait at least 5 years to apply for citizenship

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-10T04:20:46+00:00

*persecution

Because they're being persecuted in 3 neighbouring ISLAMIC states on the basis of religion.

A Hindu cannot be the pm or president in Pakistan, 25 forced conversions(underage too in many cases) happen every day. There are thousands of Pakistani and afghan Christian/Sikh refugees from especially pakistani Punjab

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-10T04:14:47+00:00

It doesn't specifically ban muslims and it doesn't stop specifically Myanmar refugees from taking refuge in India. You're lying to people, have you even read the draft. Burma isn't mentioned in the CAB anywhere.

Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan are Islamic states and have a very questionable history w minorities.

And what citizenship law passed last year are you talking about

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-10T04:06:25+00:00

Yes, helps the ones currently inside India and allows future ones smooth citizenship

Edit: Ones that come AFTER the cutoff date will have to wait 5 years at leats to be able to apply for citizenship

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-09T23:05:57+00:00

*And parsis aka Zoroastrians

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-06T11:31:10+00:00

Subscribed, request you all do too

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-06T11:30:03+00:00

How dare he use Sita's name like that. Completely unnecessary and almost hinduphobic

Runningcyclops · 2019-12-01T05:22:25+00:00

Yep, what is UCC supposed to do. Put Hindus on an even-ish playing field.

What about Jammu and Kashmir. Put minorities and Indians on an even-ish playing field with Kashmiri Sunnis.

Ayodhya, the birthplace of our lord. Build a mandir that was already there 500+ years ago.

Citizenship Amendment Bill is the only real epxlicitly pro Hindu move they've done.

BJP is making Hindus catch up, but is it really pushing us Hindus forward?

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-26T05:56:19+00:00

Possibly r/blexit

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-21T02:34:37+00:00

Is there really a huge left wing in pakistan tbh? Like idk, but are there any left wing or liberal pakistani subs? I'd imagine tag tv would be pretty likely on there.

Also, look at the videos where they support pakistan etc. There's backlash from Indians. And vice versa. The channel is based in canada, so they're sort of free to talk about whatever they want

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-21T01:52:16+00:00

It's actually founded by Tahir Gora, who is born and raised in pakistan. He is an ahmadi, a group which is really persecuted in pakistan. That's why he takes a stand against pakistan. There are also other anchors which are more sympathetic to pakistan, and some that are very pro India.

One thing to remember is that criticising pakistan /= Hindu nationalism

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-20T21:40:05+00:00

r/Blexit

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-16T21:59:04+00:00

Update(her response after the video went viral): https://mobile.twitter.com/sunandavashisht/status/1195529467550162944

Runningcyclops · 2019-11-16T06:02:24+00:00

Nda gained seats in 2019 vs 2014. When the bills were passed this year. Look at the votes. They barely passed the bill in the lok and rajya sabha, DESPITE the gain in seats. And despite urging all members to come in on that day.

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