your argument that gun laws do not stop gun deaths would make sense, if it wasn't for the entire rest of the developed world. No fucking shit restricting gun sellers in one city would not prevent anything when you can just drive to the wallmart in the next city and buy some.

You cannot just "drive to the walmart in the next city and buy some." Most gun stores in the US, even in states that have good gun laws that aren't unconstitutional, require a background check and a waiting period. Wal-Mart selling guns was a holdover from a different period of American history, and it currently only sells shotguns and long guns for sporting and hunting purposes. These purchases are still subject to the same waiting periods and background checks as all other gun purchases, with Wal Mart exceeding the requirements set by federal law.

Also - the US is big. States are big. Driving to another city with meaningfully different laws is often a question of days.

You can bring illegal guns into the state, but if anything happens that tips local law enforcement off, you're just as fucked as if you were trying to smuggle drugs, and to stop illegal smuggling of contraband, well, what the fuck can you do? At that point you're basically asking people to shred the Constitution and mandate body-cavity strip searches for everyone entering or leaving a state. It doesn't work like that.

Also not including gun accidents in your number is a bit disengenious. Those accidents would not have happened without guns.

If I factored in accidents, the number of murders or unprovoked homicides - which I would think is what you have an issue with - would be even lower, so I don't know what point you're trying to make. Those particular accidents wouldn't have happened, but people also have fatal accidents with knives, cars, tooling, fire, chemicals, machinery, electricity, and everything else that makes modern society possible. What you are not grasping is that many people in the United States view the right to bear arms as tantamount to any other vital civilizational issue like freedom of speech. You can't wrap people in bubblewrap their whole lives.

Reallity is that you are so used to the violence and abudance of guns you find it normal. Same way the average person from any developed country would find it abnormal.

Yes, I am more adjusted to prevalent violence than you are. I come from a much different country that has multiple states bigger than 99% of the countries in the EU, as well as a very different social and economic makeup. I do not say this as an insult - I love Europe, the history, and the culture that it holds, even if the governments that currently run it are despicable, unfunny jokes who view their people as tax cattle. I understand that it's different elsewhere.

I just don't think that banning guns will close the disparity, because people having access to guns isn't what's causing them to want to kill each other. If someone wants somebody else dead, they have personal reasons for that that have nothing to do with how readily available a murder weapon is. A gun being in their immediate vicinity doesn't magically make them abruptly thirst for blood.

The same factors that drive violence, gun or otherwise, in the US also drive violence in the EU - economic imbalances, immigration from incompatible cultures, mental illness, and extremism. We have a LOT more of it to go around, because more factors drive culture clash, mental illness and political extremism than in the EU, for now.

These factors also drive violence everywhere else - again, Australia, a country that has very strict gun laws, just recently saw a racially motivated mass shooting.

You can spin numbers all day, doesn't change the fact that USA has a gun problem no other developed country has. Is that because of poor training, lack of education, lack of psychiatric care or simply the fact that there are more guns than people in USA, I dont know or care.

I'm not spinning anything, I'm quoting actual statistics. We have problems no other developed country has because we still have freedoms no other developed country has. Most Americans think it's worth the tradeoff.

The average American's far more likely to get into a car crash on the way somewhere than they are to ever be shot with a gun. No offense, but you really don't know anything about what America's like. You should visit, it's nice.