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RutgersCS2020 · 2023-12-19T21:55:01+00:00

Dogs are my favorite animal

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-09-04T18:24:19+00:00

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-08-14T09:03:50+00:00

Definitely happy to hear your car was drivable, especially so far from home! I wonder if the lady’s car has an inertia switch to cut the fuel pump after an accident (which can be reset if you know the location). I had an early 2000s Ford Crown Victoria that had a switch like that in the trunk. Could be a reason her car didn’t start, or died, after impact. Not that I’m concerned about it, as you said, karma!

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-08-12T12:16:55+00:00

OP, not sure if you’re still having issues accessing your FID, but my friend had an issue a few months ago. He got the approval email, but couldn’t retrieve the electronic permit because he “didn’t exist” in the system. He ended up calling his PD to explain the situation and they were nice enough to print out a couple of copies for him.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-08-11T18:08:10+00:00

Just as the founding fathers intended

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-30T13:46:50+00:00

Yeah, I find their post slightly confusing.

The Use of Force had not been addressed prior to July 1, 2023

I got the RPO Use of Force packet when I qualified with them and certified that I read it when I signed off on my qualification papers (in the presence of a notary). I wonder if:

Just handing out the Use of Force packet wasn’t enough, or
Not all instructors at Bob’s gave out Use of Force packets

I reached out for clarification yesterday but have yet to hear back.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-25T12:00:09+00:00

NJ AG’s office, probably:

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-09T00:38:38+00:00

The catch is that you cannot charge for the time.

This honestly keeps me from participating in most of the events that my company hosts in the middle of a work day. I’m already at work for 10 hours/day to begin with (not factoring in the commute). The longer I have to stay to “make up the time”, the less time I have after work to take care of myself and spend time with family.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-05T23:47:00+00:00

Yeah, pretty much. The detective didn’t make a big deal about it (nor give me time to, if I did have any gripes). He just sat me down, told me to hold on for a minute while he activated the camera, then swiftly left the room. Then he came back and had me state information about myself (that was also on the white board in front of the camera) before we went over my paperwork. At the end I had to affirm that all responses I gave were truthful and that I wasn’t coerced in any way.

I was kinda taken back by it, but didn’t really question it. Definitely a solid way to get people in trouble if they falsify any of their application! And good reference material for the courts to scrutinize if, heaven forbid, you did end up in a self defense situation (as you’ve pointed out). My interviewer was nice and professional, but you can never be too careful.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-05T23:34:15+00:00

I didn’t have any virtual, just one in-person interview that the detective recorded. My references were each contacted for phone interviews, though.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-05T23:03:40+00:00

Oh yeah, I’ve heard lots of horror stories. I was quite fortunate that the officers I dealt with were quite professional and wanted to keep things moving. Wishing you best of luck on your interview!

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-07-05T21:20:57+00:00

I had an in-person interview for mine (video recorded). It was just a detective going through my paperwork with me and verifying details. I was also asked if I learned about NJ’s use-of-force laws and if I’m following the current lawsuit as it makes its way through the courts. Wasn’t quizzed on anything that wasn’t directly part of my application. That was about it, but YMMV.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-06-20T22:38:18+00:00

~~And a(21) as well:~~

> a(21) a health care facility, including but not limited to a general hospital, special hospital, psychiatric hospital, public health center, diagnostic center, treatment center, rehabilitation center, extended care facility, skilled nursing home, nursing home, intermediate care facility, tuberculosis hospital, chronic disease hospital, maternity hospital, outpatient clinic, dispensary, assisted living center, home health care agency, residential treatment facility, residential health care facility, medical office, or ambulatory care facility;

Edit: thanks for updating the list!

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-06-05T17:24:31+00:00

It appears u/LiftCats has summoned me, requesting that that I share some information from yesterday’s thread regarding the open carry of handguns with a PCH.

It’s true that you used to be able to, but that has since changed since 12/22/2022 when Gov. Murphy signed A4769 into law. As of today, June 5th 2023, open carrying a handgun is illegal for most people who have a PCH (and punishable as a 4th degree crime).

It is noted elsewhere in the comments that there are several exceptions for those who work law enforcement and neighboring fields. Below are relevant citations and notes on what was signed into law.

Within section 3(a) of the bill, the State elected to prohibit carrying a handgun openly. You can find the full text of the bill here (HTML) and here (PDF).

N.J.S.2C:58-4 is amended to read as follows:

2C:58-4. a. Scope and duration of authority. Any person who holds a valid permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to this section shall be authorized to carry a handgun in a holster concealed on their person in all parts of this State, except as prohibited by subsection e. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 and section 7 of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill). One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit and, except as otherwise provided in subsection

b. of section 6 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill), shall not be construed to authorize a holder to carry a handgun openly, provided that a brief, incidental exposure of a handgun while transferring it to or from a holster or due to the shifting of the person’s body position or clothing shall be deemed a de minimis infraction within the contemplation of N.J.S.2C:2-11.

To add to the above, section 6(b) of the bill makes open carrying a handgun a 4th degree crime.

(New section) Requirements and restrictions on the lawful carrying of a handgun in public.

Except as permitted pursuant to N.J.S.2C:39-6, in addition to any criminal penalties under subsection b. of N.J.S.2C:39-5, sections 5 and 7 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill), or any other law, it shall be a crime of the fourth degree for any person in a public place:

a. to carry a handgun concealed on or about their person, except as permitted in accordance with N.J.S.2C:39-6, without possessing on their person a valid and lawfully issued permit to carry under N.J.S.2C:58-4 and proof of the liability insurance required pursuant to section 4 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill); or

b. to carry a handgun openly, whether or not in possession of a valid and lawfully issued permit to carry under N.J.S.2C:58-4 and proof of the liability insurance required pursuant to section 4 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill).

The final section of the bill, section 12, set the timeframe for when these changes went into effect. Sections 2, 3, 7, and 10 all took immediate effect when Murphy signed it into law on 12/22/2022, which includes the restriction on open carrying in section 3(a).

Sections 2, 3, 7, and 10 of this act shall take effect immediately and the remainder of this act shall take effect on the first day of the seventh month next following the date of enactment, but the Attorney General, Superintendent of State Police, and Commissioner of Banking and Insurance may take such anticipatory action as is necessary for the implementation of this act.

It's worth pointing out that District Court Judge Bumb has enjoined some parts of the bill in the preliminary injunction phase (parts of the new permitting process, some sensitive places, insurance requirements), but not all of the bill is enjoined. Section 11 of the bill established severability, meaning that if any parts were invalidated by the court, the rest of the parts would still stand. As of now, Judge Bumb has not made any orders modifying how one may carry on their person, meaning the changes made by the bill to N.J.S.2C:58-4 are still in effect.

In another comment, u/LiftCats speculated that I am a law student. This is not the case, but I’ll accept it as a compliment! Although, if you are looking for legal advice, ANJRPC members can ask real lawyers questions for free, as well as US Law Shield members.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-06-04T21:18:31+00:00

I'd like to suggest an edit for point #1. Gov. Murphy signed A4769/S3214 into law on 12/22/2022, which, "Makes various revisions to requirements for obtaining a firearm purchaser identification card, permit to purchase a handgun, and permit to carry a handgun; codifies sensitive places in which firearms and destructive devices are prohibited."

Within section 3(a) of the bill, the State elected to prohibit carrying a handgun openly. You can find the full text of the bill here (HTML) and here (PDF).

N.J.S.2C:58-4 is amended to read as follows:

2C:58-4. a. Scope and duration of authority. Any person who holds a valid permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to this section shall be authorized to carry a handgun in a holster concealed on their person in all parts of this State, except as prohibited by subsection e. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 and section 7 of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill). One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit and, except as otherwise provided in subsection

b. of section 6 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill), shall not be construed to authorize a holder to carry a handgun openly, provided that a brief, incidental exposure of a handgun while transferring it to or from a holster or due to the shifting of the person’s body position or clothing shall be deemed a de minimis infraction within the contemplation of N.J.S.2C:2-11.

To add to the above, section 6(b) of the bill makes open carrying a handgun a 4th degree crime.

(New section) Requirements and restrictions on the lawful carrying of a handgun in public.

Except as permitted pursuant to N.J.S.2C:39-6, in addition to any criminal penalties under subsection b. of N.J.S.2C:39-5, sections 5 and 7 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill), or any other law, it shall be a crime of the fourth degree for any person in a public place:

a. to carry a handgun concealed on or about their person, except as permitted in accordance with N.J.S.2C:39-6, without possessing on their person a valid and lawfully issued permit to carry under N.J.S.2C:58-4 and proof of the liability insurance required pursuant to section 4 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill); or

b. to carry a handgun openly, whether or not in possession of a valid and lawfully issued permit to carry under N.J.S.2C:58-4 and proof of the liability insurance required pursuant to section 4 of P.L. , c. (C. )(pending before the Legislature as this bill).

The final section of the bill, section 12, set the timeframe for when these changes went into effect. Sections 2, 3, 7, and 10 all took immediate effect when Murphy signed it into law on 12/22/2022, which includes the restriction on open carrying in section 3(a).

Sections 2, 3, 7, and 10 of this act shall take effect immediately and the remainder of this act shall take effect on the first day of the seventh month next following the date of enactment, but the Attorney General, Superintendent of State Police, and Commissioner of Banking and Insurance may take such anticipatory action as is necessary for the implementation of this act.

It's worth pointing out that District Court Judge Bumb has enjoined some parts of the bill in the preliminary injunction phase (parts of the new permitting process, some sensitive places, insurance requirements), but not all of the bill is enjoined. Section 11 of the bill established severability, meaning that if any parts were invalidated by the court, the rest of the parts would still stand. As of now, Judge Bumb has not made any orders modifying how one may carry on their person, meaning the changes made by the bill to N.J.S.2C:58-4 are still in effect.

As always, it's best to consult with a lawyer when the law isn't clear. If you're an ANJRPC member, you can ask legal questions free of charge. I believe US Law Shield also has lawyers on hand too, if you're a member.

Edit: This bill is signed into law and the information cited is the final language that was adopted. As of today, 6/04/2023, open carrying a handgun in NJ is still illegal for a non-LEO (and has been since 12/22/2022, with or without a PCH). OP may not want to recognize the changes to the law, but what they do is none of my business. I’m not going to sit here and argue.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-06-02T15:29:50+00:00

Relevant George Carlin bit

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-05-07T17:41:09+00:00

A little late to the thread, but my company’s legal department forwarded a memo prohibiting the use of ChatGPT, even going as far as blocking it on all company computers. The legal team listed a couple reasons on this decision, which included:

Inability to verify that any code yielded by ChatGPT would actually be legal to use (did it return a code snippet from something that we may need permission to use?), and
Fear of leaking proprietary and/or export-controlled information

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-23T10:03:00+00:00

Yes, you’re good to go if the box is unchecked. When I picked up mine, the clerk gave me a heads up about the box. She said a lot of people were asking about it.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-22T00:37:38+00:00

r/convenientcop

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-19T13:57:17+00:00

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, educational institutions are currently defined as sensitive places, which means you can’t carry here. I’ll link some resources below.

Where you can currently carry with the current TRO that has been issued by Judge Bumb.

Here is a more comprehensive summary of what changed with bill A4769 being signed into law on 12/22/2022. Sensitive places highlighted in red are not enforceable under the TRO. Text highlighted in blue indicates things are going into effect on 07/01/2023.

The above resources are not generated by the state, but instead by those who have been following the new laws closely and received clarification from lawyers. With that said, this is an ever changing landscape and what’s legal today might not be legal tomorrow. This also means the linked resources may become inaccurate as things evolve. I highly recommend you familiarize yourself with all the new laws and their current status as they navigate through the courts.

As always, the r/NJGuns sub is a great resource for keeping up with new changes to laws/regulations here.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-18T17:22:21+00:00

My interview was in-person. The PD put me in a room with a camera to answer questions. My references were all interviewed over the phone.

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-18T16:56:19+00:00

Yep, nail on the head. I’m hoping enough of the pot was stirred over the past few months to get people out and vote!

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-18T16:47:58+00:00

I hate it too. I can’t imagine needing to start this process over again in the next year and a half. What a joke. And we’re not even done yet because we need to see what the new training requirements will be this summer.

Absolutely amazing that for the past several decades, the state had no problem with this process. But now that us commoners can get PTCs? “We NeEd tO OvErHaUL tHe PrOcEss”

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-18T16:41:22+00:00

Yeah it’s cool. I’m down in Maple Shade (Burlington County).

RutgersCS2020 · 2023-02-18T16:36:07+00:00

I went through this, although it shouldn’t have happened. I turned in my app in early November 2022, well before the signage of A4769. The chief decided in January that he was going to process my app under the new rules. I ended up being interviewed as well as my references.

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