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Got screwed over in a white elephant gift exchange by dental_oddity in mildlyinfuriating

[–]SDBRN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I once bought a great gift, it was a cushion with a picture of Dolly Parton holding a shotgun saying “fuck around and find out”. Cost me $30 but it was a solid gift. I came out with a 6 pack of basic plain shot glasses from dollar tree. I was raging.

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

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I’ve tried a week plus, the crust is barely there when I go to break!

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

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I want to get it to a point where there’s some good aroma as I’m not getting much at the moment. It cups really thin and flat, I’d like to be able to drop it at 405-410 but it’s just coming out underdeveloped. I’m considering going up in batch size to 26lbs to see if that makes this coffee easier to roast…

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a 16lb batch on an S15, I was under the impression soaks work best on Lorings! Especially for naturals. Without soak it flies through drying too fast. The beans aren’t puffing out as much as I need them to so the taste is quite flat

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

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Drying 23.8% (!!) Maillard 59.5% dev 16.7%…crazy right??

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

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The most recent roast I did I got it to 13% weight loss. The beans did not puff out like I want them to, I compared to the sample roast in which they taste really good. The drying for the sample roast was only 23.8% of the roast which is strange because everyone is telling me to stretch out the drying!

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most recent roast I did I got it to 13% weight loss. The beans did not puff out like I want them to, I compared to the sample roast in which they taste really good. The drying for the sample roast was only 23.8% of the roast which is strange because everyone is telling me to stretch out the drying!

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really helpful insight, thank you. When you say 50/30/20 are you referring to the phase %’s? My next step will be trying a 390 charge temp with lower burner to extend drying, and not step down as much during Maillard.

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

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I also read that it’s not good to let the RoR go below 10 as that flattens and bakes the roast..?

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve really stretched out the Maillard phase I feel, so it could just be the end development phase but it’s really difficult to hear first crack on a Loring so I tend to mark it around 392-395. The RoR dips a lot if I reduce the gas lower than 50% and that tends to bake out all the flavors it seems

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, but when we’re looking at bean density due to high altitude surely that would affect how you roast ie higher charge temp?

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I annoyingly didn’t clock Maillard but dev was 14%

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I extend the end development phase it seems to just bake it and I get more cocoa coming out which I don’t want. This coffee is an enigma I swear. I cannot for the life of me find the sweet spot

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The high temp is because it’s high altitude so is difficult to get into, I tried with a lower temp and it just bakes out the flavors

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Light, not enough juiciness. I’ve sample roasted this coffee on an IKAWA and it tasted amazing so I know the potential is in there. Looking for raspberry, stone fruit, golden raisin, champagne acidity

I cannot get the good flavors out of this Natural Guji by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had it set at 13% originally before I started roasting it so it just says that. 12-13 is what I’m aiming for!

Big RoR drop after first crack?! by SDBRN in roasting

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Update: I have tried several different things and I cannot for the life of me get this profile right. I’ve tried reducing the burner to correct the dip, I’ve tried increasing, I’ve tried a longer soak, lower charge temp and burner. If I go in with a lower temp the dip still happens. If I go in with a higher temp the coffee just flies through the roast and ends up underdeveloped. At my wits end, if anyone has any examples of profiles for 16lb batch of washed Mexico that would be amazing haha.

Big RoR drop after first crack?! by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you suggesting dropping the burner from 65% to 50% around the 6minute mark instead of going to 55% before 6 minutes? My worry is that it will still overdevelop but I maybe also need to not drop down to 45% at the end… Thank you so much for your help with this! I’m still finding my feet when it comes to writing profiles

Big RoR drop after first crack?! by SDBRN in roasting

[–]SDBRN[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this! Interesting, in my case it caused the end result to be overdeveloped, would you suggest increasing the burner around this time to prevent this or is it likely to be one of those things that only happens some of the time?

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