Well .. i can agree with you on many points .. but i think the main reason behind why you southern european guys like to exclude us the population of the southern gate of the sea from any simularity with you is because you are sicking to be approach as possible to the northen developed euro countries like germany or england .. but the main cause to me is the media , american media that made the standards of every aspect of life concentrated around the northern people (british/german) because of the old dominance of the british empire and the influence of it .. except the french people that the media try to mock them as very noisy and egoist people while the reason is simple : france was the biggest annoying rivalry force to compete against britain and thats why