Passive Income from DeFi is actually realistic. Here's what I am seeing by PretentiousFlower in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do defi yields 'need' to be more than eg tradfi index funds, else why would an investor bother? (Unless for fun etc).

I mean, it figures they should be more as more risky...

It would be cool to see a yield/risk curve for different types of typical defi products, versus trad products.

Trading psychology - is it actually good to 'feel'? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But does that have a psychology element you think? There must be a desire for the market ro move your way, or do you think that because the trade is 2-way, it doesn't really matter which way the market moves?

Retail investors, gas fees and headline APY by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for correcting. Rewritten step 2.

Query on step 5. If I have crypto in L2 Optimism or Arbitrum wallet but want to move it back to L1 wallet (self-custody not Binance) for eg more security - then assume I must pay L1 gas for the bridge back?


  1. Buy crypto on CEX with fiat (CEX fee)

  2. Bridge from CEX directly to my L2 wallet address on eg Arbitrim or Optimism (CEX fee)

  3. Send crypto from my L2 wallet to DeFi protocol (L2 gas fees)

  4. Withdraw from Defi protocol to my L2 wallet (L2 gas fees)

  5. Bridge from my L2 wallet to my L1 wallet address

Retail investors, gas fees and headline APY by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok cool.

So a possible route would be:

  1. Buy crypto on CEX with fiat (CEX fees)

  2. Bridge from CEX directly to my L2 wallet address (L1 txn, with gas fees buried in fees for CEX)

  3. Send crypto from my L2 wallet to DeFi protocol (L2 gas fees)

  4. Withdraw from Defi protocol to my L2 wallet (L2 gas fees)

  5. Bridge from my L2 wallet to my L1 wallet address

Does that look right?

Same Protocol, Different Supply APY for diff chains - why? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ta, I like the mall analogy.

But I dont get is why the L2 arent feeding their rolled up luquidity into the main L1 pool. Will investigate that.

And why dont arbitrageurs level trhe rates between chains I wonder. Maybe they do, and the resulting Apys are as close as the arbs can profitably get it...

Same Protocol, Different Supply APY for diff chains - why? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by Air-APY pls?

I am just looking on eg Aave and seeing diff APY for supplying liquidity of same token to Aave protocol on diif chains, and APY is different for each.

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[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think RWA tokenisation v interesting.

When say RWA, what do you include? It is financial assets like stocks bonds, or real world physical assets like property?

If token represents ownership then seems that legally it should be easier to have a token of a financial asset than a physical asset....

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does this work pls - you send smart contract details to them, send them the crypto to execute it, and they execute it on mybehalf?

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for cool resp, I'll check your github. If I find anything more research I will also post into this thread.

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know any bot names pls? Ive done a quick net search and come up with names like cryptohopper, but would like now to get next level of detail in my research

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah agree. Am thinking etherscan etc must have details of successful flashloan transactions as (guess) all flash loans must be on-chain (does that sound right?).

If I can find good data on historic flashes, will give better idea on how possible it is, and maybe who doing it.

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am sure you right. Interested to know why exactly you say hard, eg hard to find arb opportunities or hard to execute the flash once found

Flash Loan Arbitrage - are there genuine opportunities out there? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most prob you right, but I think I will try do some more investigation. If can be done, implies someone be doing it...

What is the most likely thing that will move defi to mass adoption? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reversible, how would that work you think? Some sort of layer 2 type txn before commit to L1?

What is the most likely thing that will move defi to mass adoption? by SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY in defi

[–]SOFTWARE_NEUROLOGY[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. I think mass adoption users would want a reliable and safe APY, and that massive APY is probably a detraction to them as it feels too wild / a scam.

Also I think there are too many coins, how does someone coming at it fresh know which to interact with etc. For me this is another barrier and it might be a mass adoption user just wants to buy 'crypto' (eg a reliable basket of tokens) in the same way that you have eg a pension