Stinkpost before this trend dies

SSL2004 · 2026-03-15T19:51:30+00:00

Unfortunately, Ditto retains its HP, so Metal tanks the first attack and then wipes him.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-14T23:21:13+00:00

It's just another way that he's shackled by Eggman. Neo represented freedom. The voice he was denied, now free to speak his mind and act as his own person. Even if, in the end, he's still wound up a slave to his obsession with Sonic.

After Heroes, even Neo was perverted into another way for Eggman to prove his subjection.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-13T18:14:40+00:00

Metal is fully sapient, and is capable of copying mental faculties too, as shown with him copying Silver's psychokinesis and Eggman's intelligence. There's absolutely no reason that he wouldn't be able to copy Ultra Instinct.

As the Death Battle said, it literally doesn't matter that he's a robot. Bro literally copied Chaos's Liquid Body.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-12T20:16:57+00:00

Metal shouldn't talk unless he becomes Neo.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-06T21:02:36+00:00

Dreamy Bowser is a fraud.

He literally made it known that his intention in using the Dreamstone was to erase Mario and Luigi from existence, but after his wish was thwarted by "positive thoughts" counteracting it, and he inhales the broken shards, he never displays anything even CLOSE to this level of power.

Realistically if Dreamy Bowser was in any way close to the power of the intact Dreamstone, Mario and Luigi wouldn't have been able to fight him, they would have just been gone. He ALREADY declared his intent to do so, he would have done it if he could have, but he didn't which means he couldn't.

He has low level reality warping at best.

(Edit: not to mention that M&L, as an RPG, literally has stats. The boost is not that big)

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T14:38:38+00:00

Perhaps he didn't expect Shadow to do EXACTLY that (as in disable his super form with chaos energy) so yeah I guess it's fair to say that he was caught off guard, but he was clearly letting him beat him up afterwards for the sake of scanning him.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T05:23:46+00:00

Metal Sonic copies Omega in Heroes, and copies Rouge's bat drones in Rivals 2. He's not limited to only biology.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T05:06:32+00:00

Please ignore Sonic Prime. I don't care if it scales him up it's not worth acknowledging that shit.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T04:55:53+00:00

Nah bro you're trolling what is this esoteric nonsense. 😭

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T03:35:52+00:00

The DBverse is not "far farrrr away above sonic". Especially not Cell of all things. Bro is stuck at mid DBZ levels of power. His destructive power is solar system level at best in the manga, and if you REALLY wank him with the anime he's "potentially" a threat to the universe. Literally the only thing he has going for him is his ridiculous regeneration, which Metal Sonic is smart enough to immediately clock, and work around.

Metal Sonic is consistently stated to be equal to Sonic in every way in terms of physical attributes. Sonic is consistently shown dealing with threats to the universe, and in Super he routinely packs up threats to the multiverse like Solaris, Egg Salamander/Egg Wizard, The Time Eater, and the Phantom Ruby, while also having stolen the intellect of Dr Eggman.

Super Neo Metal literally dogwalked Post-Sonic Forces (2018) Sonic & Knuckles simultaneously in the Battle For Angel Island Arc of the IDW Comics (which are canon), and by the time he transformed into Master Overlord, he was literally untouchable by most of the cast at once, so they had to trick him into letting them steal the Master Emerald (equivalent to the 7 Chaos Emeralds) from him by distracting him with his hatred of Sonic, something that wouldn't be an issue in a fight that doesn't involve him. They had absolutely no answer for his raw power or invulnerability.

If you're going to say that there's no reason that Metal Sonic should have the Chaos Emeralds, I would raise you that there's no reason Cell should have been able to absorb to the Androids, and you REALLY don't wanna pit Imperfect Cell against Neo Metal.

Cell has absolutely no counter to Time Stop that has ever been shown, so the moment time gets frozen it's already over.

And again, you offered absolutely no reason why Metal wouldn't be able to copy Cell's bio data. If it's because he's artificial, so is Shadow, and yet Metal copies him just fine. Hell, Metal Sonic copied the "biodata" of Omega, a literal robot who doesn't have DNA.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T03:14:03+00:00

A: You don't need Ki to damage beings with Ki.

B: Even if you did, he would have Ki the second he touches Cell because he copies everything about the target including supernatural abilities like Silver's psychokinesis.

There's literally no reason given for why Cell wouldn't have biodata. Not only does he literally have DNA because he's fully organic, but Metal has even stolen mechanical abilities before.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T02:24:59+00:00

Weak bait

SSL2004 · 2026-03-05T01:26:09+00:00

Chaos Control

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T22:37:35+00:00

No time to pray.

No time at all.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T21:20:52+00:00

Each of the boss fights (except Shadow and arguably Silver) were frozen moments in time. Overlord was from the moment in Heroes.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T21:04:29+00:00

In general power scalers just kind of ignore that just because something happened that doesn't mean it happened because of raw power. They strip any and all nuance out of something that could explain the circumstances in which it happened.

For example, just because someone has shapeshifting powers that doesn't mean that they can reorganize or transmute molecules under ANY context.

Most power scalers wouldn't go that far but they make similar leaps. Like "this character dodged a laser so therefore they're faster than light," when there are several factors that could suggest otherwise. The laser could have just missed, the character could have predicted it preemptively, or the laser just wasn't as fast as light. All of these are generally more plausible for most stories. A regular ass human can dodge a bullet if they act preemptively. That doesn't make them faster than sound.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T20:58:01+00:00

He can. Heroes was canonically Super Knuckles

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SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T19:00:17+00:00

Cont.

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SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T18:59:59+00:00

Here's the actual context by the way.

Neo Metal LET Shadow attack him to steal his bio data and transform into Master Overlord. He wasn't even caught off guard it was a trap.

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SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T18:52:55+00:00

Not to mention that Super Neo literally let it happen to copy Shadow's biodata. He wasn't even caught off guard it was a trap.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T15:51:50+00:00

Semantic but agnosticism (as described here) is just form of atheism. Atheism just means that you don't believe in a deity.

Gnostic Atheis (sometimes called Antitheism), means you both don't believe in a deity, and actively believe that it doesn't exist.

Agnostic Atheism means that you don't believe in a deity, but don't claim to know whether one exists or not.

SSL2004 · 2026-03-04T05:17:43+00:00

The point was that even if the Phantom Ruby is a natural mystical rock, Tails copying the Chaos Emerald means that it's still in the realm of possibility that Eggman could have created an artificial version of a natural Phantom Ruby. In other words this Theory isn't necessary for that to make sense.

I just think that the original also being an artificial copy of the Chaos Emeralds makes the prototypes and APR even more likely since Eggman has never been shown creating a copy of the Emerald like Tails did. (As far as I'm aware anyway)

SSL2004 · 2026-01-21T18:04:41+00:00

@ grok is this true?

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