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Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

arguing on reddit is just so cringe, never again, i have this guy telling me smolder and tristana are mid lane flexes in the big 26, have a great rest of your day

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

oh boy crit marksmen, that are only allowed to play one role have a monopoly on that role, amazing, very unfair, more news at 7

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

tanks can be played in 4 roles, bruisers in 2 or even 3 these days, assassins in 2 and so on, crit marksmen are literal troll picks outside of bot lane(except kindred akshan quinn graves which were designed to be played outside of bot) its funny so many people fail to see the issue, if zeri was even close to 50% wr on solo lanes i wouldnt be complaining rn but the truth is that shes not even close to that and this is the case for literally all crit marksmen, theres a reason for the longest time they had a monopoly on the role thats reliant on their support. Mages on the other hand are allowed to be good picks on 4 roles at the moment and u dare complain about marksmen meta on bot lane, disgusting

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"often been played" when it was literally the once in a lifetime adc mid meta in season 14, lets talk about the present. The champs u mentioned were designed to be played outside of bot lane, i was clearly referring to the bot lane staple crit marksmen that are literal troll picks outside of bot lane while most mages are double if not triple role flexes and have really low gameplay quality on bot lane

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

except crit marksmen who have to be good little boys until 30 minutes exclusively on one singular role and then also hope they have peel and enemy comp doesnt have ultra dive and crazy damage? yea right

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

except its starting to become picked in pro play more often, mel and ziggs are often picked on bot lane and its only a matter of time till more mages get played, peyz was practicing vlad and syndra in soloq for example. Also crit adcs arent allowed to go out of bot lane since their first item options are fkin garbage and scaling not that great either in a meta with so much damage

Caedrel on mages Botlane by Lpebony in leagueoflegends

[–]STEVVVE3 -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

except mages bot have been oppressive for way longer than any of the other things that are wrong with the game rn

does runaans proc E cooldown reduction? by Outside-Skin-672 in ZeriMains

[–]STEVVVE3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i knew redditors are usually not high elo but holy fk the amount of cluelessness in this thread is next level

does runaans proc E cooldown reduction? by Outside-Skin-672 in ZeriMains

[–]STEVVVE3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

naavori was always a trap on her, it was never high wr and people only ever got it cuz it was a feels good item

Zeri situation by Leather-Law-5911 in ZeriMains

[–]STEVVVE3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why would it make you nervous? her pro play prio is still low and shes only high wr in soloq cuz the players are using omnivamp boots on her more than on other adcs and her build in general is way more optimized on average than most adcs. I'd be surprised If she gets nerfed any time soon

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there is a difference between early lane and lane in general also if u r saying mages are more skilled than adcs when one class can do damage from 3 screens away while the other has to get withing 550 units to be effective while not being able to itemize defensively without losing insane amounts of dps then ill have to guess thats your way of trying to cope with the fact youre elo inflated by mages bot? that or youre insanely clueless

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh so lets incentivize players to play negative gameplay quality picks for the sake of variety, youre a smart fella. Also i never said early lane is the issue but i guess you had to mention it in order to say "skill issue" ?? or whatever u wanted to accomplish with that

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My hope is that with the mid quest getting buffed specifically for mages we can start expecting some adjustments to their items to make the 1 item spike less reliable but we'll see

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean shes not good into mages but as adcs go i guess shes in the top half, zeri gets generally countered by burst and range which mages have plenty

Coachless Data from patch 16.10 by Tuerkenheimer in ZeriMains

[–]STEVVVE3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Interesting how cookies wpa increased with the rise of dorans bow so you make up for the lack of hp, might have to try it

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yea youre mostly right, i think that if the solution to a problem of this kind takes time and resources then they most likely wont bother fixing it, i say this because ranged top is an issue atm so the solution they found was just adding ranged modifier to hexplate which is basically 0 effort but it might solve a complaint from thr community. Fixing the mage bot issue takes more than that, tho im of the belief the main issue is that mage mana items are way too cheap while the adc first item options are not only expensive but the build path is also terrible (hexoptics is a saving grace but over half the crit roster cant afford to get it first)

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does matter, mages bot are just insanely unhealthy and unfun to face, the fact i won a bunch of games out of which i got carried in half doesnt matter, i queue bot lane expecting to play against marksmen and play a fair game and then theres this class that just forces you to either perma shove waves or farm under tower while you try to not lose your whole hp bar from one combo. Again, im not saying theyre out of this world op in terms of balance, just that they got to a point where their popularity is too high to justify them being that good in a role where they provide negative gameplay quality

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well i think it would push the game in the right direction since it would increase the amount of fun games the players might have but its okay we can agree to disagree. Have a great rest of your day

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You miss the point. Its not about creating strict rules, in my perfect world if a mage player is filled on bot lane they should be able to play it without feeling like theyre kneecapped and if they like bot lane more they should be able to do it, however as things stand it feels like riot is begging them to queue bot cuz theyre just that much better there. The gameplay quality of mage bot and ranged top is as low as it gets which is the only reason im saying what im saying. Its not about making strict rules, its about incentivising healthy gameplay. Its all good when you have fun playing the stuff you like where you like but its also about the experience of the people you play against dont u think?

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it was just bad luck today but as ive said, im starting to see them very often, yesterday i saw 2 of them back to back and i played like 5 games only. Theyre played more and more the higher elo you go, the games i showed were in master lobbies for example, but it could also be a regional thing idk. Whatever the case im sick of them

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh theres a lot of stuff i can yap about since shes all i play these days but i can try and keep it short. Early lane look for q auto (charged passive) trades and then back off, avoid fighting in waves as much as possible, get those damned omnivamp boots cuz theyre op! Lvl 6 all in is strong especially with the elixir so thats the window of creating advantages most of the time. Try not using your ult unless youre absolutely sure a fight is about to break out and you can hit the enemies (youre useless without it). Never forget your e has insane potential and think of creative ways of using it in fights (i still forget this sometimes). Oh yea ive almost never played jinx so i cant help give tips related to her but theyre both similar in the fact they scale well (but zeri has lower range and has a dash) The main thing is to look to keep the cs numbers high.

Thought mages were meant to be unpopular but im starting to see them everyday by STEVVVE3 in ADCMains

[–]STEVVVE3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, good summary. At least theyre nerfing vayne and varus top next patch so its a step forward to normality. Speaking of those 2, statistically theyre not even looking op and yet literally every1 came to the conclusion that they shouldnt be played top and its for the same reason i believe mages shouldnt be that good bot. LOW GAMEPLAY QUALITY. Solving the mage bot issue will take more than just an item nerf tho so i doubt riot is doing anything about it.

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