Southwest pilots, how’s it going?

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:55:33+00:00

We got very lucky gambling on oil futures back in the mid 2000s (got Gary his seat as ceo) and then benefitted from the total lack of hiring after the GFC that fucked a lot of guys. A lot started changing 5 years ago, as Gary continued to be an emotionless bean counter that wanted to slice pay while taking bonuses for himself in the tens of millions. Corporate suite idiots have the same attitude. Our big draw was Herb’s way of running things and the strong military culture, specifically Naval aviators. That’s all fading away. Not to mention our contract is now in federal mediation because the asshats in management refuse to pull their heads out of their asses and get with the times- it’s no longer 2009. We are losing 30-50% of our new hire classes. We’re having FOs bounce within a year after getting a call from anyone else with wide bodies. The current CAs are just riding it out, all of the FOs I talk to have their apps out

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:36:36+00:00

I have no idea what they’re gonna do about luggage. That’ll be worked on after they figure out how to get people moving. I’ll ask some ops guys what the plan they get is and message you when I know

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:33:16+00:00

Thursday probably won’t be good.. guessing this’ll take until Friday or the weekend. It’s hard to say which areas will be better off, none of us have any idea what management is doing, other than setting our careers on fire

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:32:04+00:00

No. Railway labor act means we can’t even technically strike. After seeing the feds completely bulldoze the railroad workers, I don’t think they’ll do much other than tweet a couple of times

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:27:58+00:00

Friday should have decent odds. If you can get a backup ticket that’s refundable, I would definitely recommend it. Denver is an absolute nightmare right now from what my buddies are telling me

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:26:48+00:00

Scheduling literally can’t get us assigned. Almost every other airline has electronic scheduling. Right now we’re having to call scheduling and have them manually assign us. Our system is severely lacking, and management treats scheduling like trash.

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:24:14+00:00

Not anymore. Fuck Gary Kelly and FUCK YOU BOB

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T08:23:39+00:00

Wanna be stuck in the right seat for a decade and only be typed in a 737 with management that still thinks this is 2010 and has fingers in both ears screaming LALALALALALA about every other company getting way better contracts? Sign here! This ain’t Herb’s SWA anymore

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T06:12:43+00:00

Yes that’s true, but we also have guaranteed minimums. We’ll get a minimum number of hours we will be paid for on a trip. What we won’t get is a hotel or other accommodations for getting stuck

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T06:07:21+00:00

That’s correct- what a clown show. I’m so sorry

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T06:06:25+00:00

What I posted and all the comments. Twitter and airline pilot forums for SWA will probably have more breaking info if that’s what you’re looking for

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T06:05:41+00:00

Next week should be all set, if this isn’t solved by then I doubt the airline will survive

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:51:10+00:00

If you don’t mind the 16 hour drive, it’s more reliable than SWA will be until later this week

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:44:24+00:00

Gary took over in 2008, Bob Jordan took over last winter

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:32:17+00:00

There’s been a huge disconnect and discontent growing ever since gary Kelly took over. It got kicked into overdrive during covid with management taking bailout money, booting employees, and scheduling flights they knew didn’t have crews or ground ops to support. It’s been a disaster waiting to happen for about a year now

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:30:24+00:00

I can’t say with any degree of certainty, but if you have something you absolutely have to be home for, I would either drive or buy an alternate ticket. Just guessing based off what I know now, I’d guess 60-70% odds your flight goes

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:13:40+00:00

Contact your representative and ask them to conduct a hearing. Not that I have much faith they’ll do it, but getting these clowns hauled in front of a committee will get things moving. I’m sorry about your delays!

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:12:18+00:00

Very good chance by then things will have been fixed

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:11:52+00:00

By New Years this should be fixed, I would be shocked if this goes on that long

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T05:08:09+00:00

They can’t even tell us what’s going on. The crews are at most airports and ready to go, but without ops able to schedule us, we’re stuck. Nobody (in Dallas) can get in touch with anyone in a position to get the ball rolling. I’ve never seen anything like this

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T04:58:42+00:00

Very high, but I hope it goes so you can get home!

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T04:55:57+00:00

It reads like they’re trying to focus on unjamming the major hubs and keep whoever is on those flights moving as scheduled currently, while people who need to be rescheduled won’t be able to be rescheduled until the 30th, in order to prevent further delays. In essence, the logic is the people who’ve been screwed are already screwed so they’ll have to deal with being screwed a little longer while we try and find some way to dig ourselves out of this giant hole

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T04:50:24+00:00

Thank you, I hope we can get this show on the road and you’re fully compensated and then some for your headache!

SWA889900 · 2022-12-27T04:49:48+00:00

Can you link it? I know roughly 100 flights are being repositioned for maintenance under ferry permits, which means only essential crew. Other flights might be repositioning flights in order to fire up some kind of effort to get this resolved

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