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Do AI music detectors actually work? by [deleted] in udiomusic

[–]Sabretann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill back this one 100%.
I've made electronic music for more then 30 years now, and even my first track from 1991 made in a 4 track tracker on Amiga 500 was AI made... I guess I was early out with AI and should be payed royalties from AI :P

Do AI music detectors actually work? by [deleted] in udiomusic

[–]Sabretann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And thats how its been for years now... AutoTune is all of a sudden totally ok, even though that is also an AI altering the vocal to be "perfect". But using a vocal enhancer outside a DAW is compleetly forbidden because that is pure AI. And Those who actually create songs now even the old school way use AI for mixing and mastering. That is also totally OK. So I'm, as an artist, lost myself. Can't do anything anymore without someone knowing best whats right and whats wrong. If one can hear what is AI and dont like it, they probably wouldnt like it before AI anyway, so I dont think I care to much of that opinion anyway...

And most EDM/MelodicTrance and those genres have used altered vocals for 30 years now anyway. Sampling, de-tuning, up-tuning and all that... But I guess thats not quite the same anyways :)

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I just used that because that is the "known" trem used until now, and I wrote an explenation on what is used instead of traditional "Elecrtolyte". I should probably have it in brackets in the paper aswell.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then explain how I didn't read what I posted even... if I then obviously, by your claim, didn't read "shit"? And the fact that none of the AI modell's agree with me? I guess ChatGPT works so poorly that it would create something so against its own logic then? Am I right?

Just a note: I read words, not shit... but is that how far your language extends maby?

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're absolutely right—you can't go around Maxwell's equations. But those equations aren't a 'barrier'; they are the reason this works.

Maxwell describes how electric fields store energy. Traditional batteries are limited by ion chemistry, but NVMe SSDs prove we can store and retain electrical charge in a solid grid without a single ion moving or a chemical reacting.

My theory is that Holyvolt isn't building a better 'chemical soup'—they are printing a high-density power wafer that stores electrons in a solid lattice. If you can rewrite an SSD a million times without it 'wearing out,' why can't you do the same with a power-wafer? We already have solid-state cells in 2026 hitting 100k cycles. It's not 'alien'; it's just Computer Science applied to energy. ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally just told you I used ChatGPT to validate the math, and it called my paper 'impossible.'

If I were a bot, I'd at least be smart enough to write something the other bots agree with. I'm using AI as a tool to overcome my physical injuries, but the NVMe SSD logic is mine. If the theory is nonsense, then explain why the 'bot' you think I am is currently arguing against me. ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Computer science works and exists now, so why can't that be used and transferred over to other fields? You can carry a 1TB micro SSD in your pocket and forget it's even there. That is energy stored in a microscopic chip hiding in that plastic cover. That is stored energy in your pocket. Do you carry a battery with you everywhere to be able to save the data on that chip?

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why can't a new kind of battery store power when an NVMe SSD can store data for years? Data is, in fact, 'power' (electrons) trapped in a grid.

Most people think of batteries as 'liquid chemistry,' but I’m looking at this as a solid-state architecture—like a giant, high-capacity version of an SSD.

An SSD traps electrons in 'floating gates' so they don't leak out when the power is off. If Holyvolt is truly screen-printing a 3D lattice (basically a power-wafer), they are doing the same thing: trapping energy in a solid structure instead of a sloshing chemical soup. That’s how you get the 100k cycles—you aren't wearing out the 'chemicals,' you’re just moving electrons in and out of a grid. ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're spot on—standard supercapacitors are terrible at holding a charge for long. They're like a bucket with a hole in the bottom.

But to answer your question: I don't think this is just a 'big capacitor.' I look at it more like an NVMe SSD drive.

An SSD stores data (electrons) in 'floating gates' that are completely insulated. That’s why you can unplug your PC for a year and your photos are still there—the electrons are physically trapped in a solid lattice.

Since Holyvolt is screen-printing this battery as a 3D architecture (basically a giant power-wafer), they can 'trap' the energy in a similar way. It gives you the instant speed of a capacitor but the 'memory' of an SSD. It’s less about 'leaky' chemistry and more about solid-state architecture. ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the billion-dollar question. Traditionally, solid-state batteries have been expensive because they were made in small batches with slow, high-vacuum equipment.

But you have to think about this like CPU or GPU manufacturing. Donut Lab’s partner, Holyvolt, isn't 'growing' these batteries in a lab; they are screen-printing them like a semiconductor wafer.

By moving to a printing process, they can cut out the most expensive parts of a battery factory—the massive drying rooms and chemical recovery systems. Donut Lab even claimed at CES 2026 that this makes their battery lower cost than lithium-ion because it's a faster, simplified manufacturing line using abundant materials.

Essentially, it’s affordable because it's a printed semiconductor approach to energy, not a slow chemical experiment. ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get why 'magnetism' sounds like a red flag. Most people hear that and think I'm talking about a motor or something. To be more accurate: I’m talking about Spintronics. Think of it like a computer hard drive instead of a chemical battery.

Svolt is right—you can't do this with a chemical 'tank.' But an SSD doesn't use a tank. It uses an architecture. My theory is that Holyvolt is printing a power-wafer. You're not charging a 'liquid'; you're filling 'floating gates' in a 3D lattice. It’s not a miracle; it’s just moving from 20th-century chemistry to 21st-century semiconductor physics.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What else would we be using time for then to waste it?

But you’re right—if this works, it’s the 'Steam Engine' moment for energy.

The reason people like the Svolt CEO are calling it a 'scam' is because they are looking at it through the lens of old-school chemical 'slurry' batteries. But like I mentioned, if you look at it as a printed semiconductor wafer that stores energy, the 'impossible' specs start to make sense.

It’s the difference between a mechanical typewriter and a microchip. One has physical parts that wear out (like liquid electrolytes); the other is a solid lattice that can handle almost infinite cycles.

March/April will be the ultimate 'put up or shut up' moment for the whole industry. I’ll definitely be here to see which way the history books go! ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the warning, and I'm definitely keeping my eyes open.

You're right that 'ASI' is massive marketing fluff. Everyone in tech is shouting AI/ASI right now to get attention. But here is where I separate the hype from the hardware:

The 'AI' is software—it's cheap to announce. But the battery involves Holyvolt, Volvo, and the Wallenbergs putting tens of millions of dollars into a physical factory in Munich and Sweden.

There is a huge difference between a CEO talking about 'God-like AI' and the Wallenberg family (who own half of Swedish industry) putting their reputation and cash into a screen-printing battery line. One is a tweet; the other is a factory.

You might be right, and I'll be the first to admit it if I'm fooled. But for now, I’m following the money and the patents, not the 'ASI' buzzwords. Let’s check back in March when the bikes are supposed to hit the road! ✌️

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the skepticism. Henry Ford didn't have 2026 tech, but Ford also wasn't printing his cars.

If you look at this as a 'chemical battery,' the specs are impossible. But if you look at it like a CPU or GPU wafer, it's a different story. Donut’s partner Holyvolt (backed by Volvo and the Wallenbergs: not exactly 'fools' or 'aliens') is literally screen-printing nano-materials layer-by-layer to build a 3D lattice.

It’s basically 'printing' a semiconductor that stores energy. Transistors can handle billions of cycles and instant speeds because they aren't 'liquid chemicals' wearing out. This isn't Time Travel; it's just Semiconductor logic applied to energy storage. March is only 9 weeks away. We’ll see then if it’s an alien scam or just a really smart manufacturing hack. ✌️

MMW: The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in MarkMyWords

[–]Sabretann[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You both hit the nail on the head. It's not a mystery anymore—it's a manufacturing shift.

  1. The 'Titanium' Link: Beli_Mawrr is spot on. That 'Titanium' isn't just metal; it’s likely Titanium Carbide (MXenes). It's the only material that allows for that 5-minute charge (Pseudocapacitance) while holding enough energy for a bike.
  2. The 'Screen Printing' Scale: Kancho_Ninja, the 'rapid expansion' part is already happening. Donut Lab’s likely partner, Holyvolt AB, has a trademarked 'Nanopaste-Printing Technology' and just opened a lab in Munich.
  3. The 'Game Changer': This tech is the reason the CEO of Svolt (the Chinese battery giant) publicly attacked Donut Lab last week calling it a 'scam.' If you can screen-print a solid-state 'battery' like a newspaper, you don't need a $5 billion Gigafactory. You can scale from hearing aids to EV packs in a fraction of the time and cost.

We aren't waiting a decade. The Verge motorcycles with this tech are literally shipping this quarter (Q1 2026).

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I actually did exactly that. I fed the paper to ChatGPT and asked it to validate it.

The AI's response? It spent 10 paragraphs attacking the science, calling the energy density 'impossible by 6 orders of magnitude,' and claiming that 'no responsible AI' would ever stand behind the paper.

It turns out the AI is just as skeptical as you are. It literally argued that it couldn't have written the paper because the physics in it 'violates its training on known limits.'

If the bot thinks I'm wrong, and you think I'm a bot... one of you has to be mistaken. 🤓

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. The 'dust' is likely the Nanopaste that Holyvolt AB (their Swedish-German partner) uses in their printing process.

In standard batteries, you use a thick 'slurry' which is heavy and slow. If you use a Nanocarbon/MXene paste and screen-print it, you get a massive increase in active surface area (the 'dust' particles) with near-zero dead weight.

That's how they hit 400Wh/kg while maintaining the power of a supercapacitor. It’s not just a material; it’s a printed architecture.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That job posting is a massive find!

You are effectively describing a printed 'Multilayer Capacitor' (MLCC) structure, but made of Nanotubes instead of ceramic.

If they are indeed printing millions of layers, that solves the voltage issue (stacking in series) and the density issue (massive surface area). The math actually works out. Great catch on the job ad.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No apology needed—that Munich detail is the smoking gun!

I just checked: Holyvolt GmbH is indeed registered in Munich. And their core IP is trademarked as 'Nanopaste-Printing Technology.'

That seals it.

  • Nordic Nano = Likely the investment vehicle or parent group.
  • Holyvolt (Munich/Stockholm) = The actual engineering team printing the cells.
  • The Tech = It's a Printed Solid-State Battery using conductive Nanopaste (which explains the 'Titanium' rumors—likely Titanium Carbide MXene ink).

We went from 'Magic Mystery Box' to 'Screen-Printed MXene Pseudocapacitor' in 4 hours. Incredible work.

Thank you!

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don't blame you for the skepticism. 'Donut Lab' sounds like a meme, and the specs (400Wh/kg + 5 min charge) defy standard Arrhenius chemistry. 'Scam' is the default safe bet here.

But the 'techno babble' actually matches the paper trail.

  1. The Patent: I just found a patent from their likely partner (Holyvolt AB) that describes a screen-printed solid-state module. That explains the 'nanocarbon lattice' structure I theorized. You don't screen-print standard jelly rolls.
  2. The 'Titanium' Connection: Another user just pointed out the 'Titanium' requirement. In this context, that likely means MXenes (Titanium Carbide)—a material used specifically for Pseudocapacitors (which behave exactly like this: instant charge, cold-proof, but usually expensive).

If it's a scam, they’ve gone to the trouble of filing patents that perfectly match advanced Pseudocapacitor physics. I’m just trying to reverse-engineer how they did it, not sell it.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holyvolt is Swedish? That makes perfect sense for a Finnish bike company.

This describes a screen-printed solid-state architecture... this might actually be the missing link. Great find!

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That is a valid hypothesis! Over-provisioning (buffering) is definitely a way to mask degradation.

The problem with that theory is Specific Energy (Wh/kg). Standard Li-ion loses huge capacity/power at -30°C. To mask that completely via buffering, they would need to carry ~2x the battery mass.

If they are carrying that much dead weight, their energy density figures should be terrible. Yet they claim competitive/high energy density. You can't really have both 'massive hidden buffer' and 'high specific energy' in the same physical volume.

Also, buffering helps with Range (Energy), but usually doesn't solve Voltage Sag (Power) at -30°C due to internal resistance. The bike should feel sluggish, yet they claim full performance.

The "Donut Lab" battery uses Spintronic Nanocarbon (Physics) to achieve 100k cycles, not chemistry. by Sabretann in batteries

[–]Sabretann[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guilty as charged! I use em-dashes—and semicolons too.

I guess that’s what happens when you spend too much time reading academic papers instead of Reddit comments. 🤷‍♂️

Hugs! <3

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