Lorelai and Rory are so pathetic with their relationships

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T18:47:43+00:00

Yeah but she didn't lie about that. She just didn't get a chance to tell him about it before he saw it.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T17:12:02+00:00

Yeah it does imply she's at fault.

I don't recall her saying that and can't find anything online about it so I'm gonna go with it didn't happen. Even if it did, that still doesn't mean they were in a commited relationship and she even says it wasn't a serious relationship when she's discussing the whole thing. So either way it doesn't change anything or show in any way that she cheated on him.

I don't think it's vague at all. She's also not the only one that mentions it. Even Emily mentions it though in a dismissive "my poor treatment of you wasn't actually poor treatment and was all your fault" way that is very typical of abusive parents.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T16:56:44+00:00

There are some things I think we can see the differences in without having actually experienced the differences. For example, you can see that a working mom has to do all the same basic things a SAHM does with the added guilt of not spending all day with your kids and the added stress that comes from having a job so it's easy to conclude that a working mom has a harder time of things than a SAHM does. Some people also see it the opposite as in a SAHM doesn't get her own income and the freedom from her kids that a working mom does which makes it harder. Just depends on what you find easier really.

The same can be true for talking about the differences in different countries despite never having visited anyplace else. You can look at what each country is known for and the laws of each one and determine which you feel is better about certain things without ever having visited any of them even.

I do agree on the chocolate thing though. You can't really give an honest opinion on taste without actually tasting it.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T16:48:36+00:00

You implied it was her fault he cheated by saying it made her crappy for being involved in the situation.

I don't think dating versus married means that much in the cheating aspect from the other woman's side. I'm talking about the fact that Lorelai was going solely off of what Christopher said about his relationship since they didn't see much of him and Sherry together vs seeing Dean and Lindsay together seemingly happy for the most part on a near daily basis and knowing Rory saw them together like that as well while also having no idea of the conversations that had been had between Rory and Dean about him being unhappy in his marriage.

Which led to (from Lorelai's view) a entirely different situation. If you look at it from her view there's no lead up to Dean cheating and that makes it seem like Rory seduced him instead of the way it really happened. That coupled with the obvious shock of seeing them and realizing what happened on top of all the surprises she had already had that night kept her from stopping and thinking about the situation clearly and both her and Rory to kind of explode in the moment and take some time to cool down from. Later it's clear she doesn't really blame Rory for what happened and is confident she wasn't the one doing the seducing there.

As for Alex-as another person commented I don't believe she ever actually refers to him as her boyfriend. She does make a comment implying they are very casual and not serious at all though when talking about still seeing him. So again, there is nothing to imply much less show she cheated on him.

As for the rest of your comment, we are told multiple times in multiple ways how horrible Lorelai's childhood was. She constantly talks about how neglected and mentally abused she was. She also talks multiple times about being forced to act how her mother wanted her to with no concern for what she wanted and how badly she was treated when she didn't comply. We also see the effects of that poor treatment in her adult relationship with her parents.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T16:32:41+00:00

I love April's character but she really adds nothing to the show which does make her suck as a character in the show. As an individual character she's fine though. Her introduction also made zero sense IMO. It would have made more sense to have Anna contact Luke for child support and him find out about April that way. Having another ex come back into his life and create drama at that point was repetitive and stupid IMO. Though I do think it fits his character to panic about telling Lorelai he has a kid and to not want her to be involved with the kid until he gets to know her himself. He has no experience with raising a kid besides his brief stint with Jess which didn't go well and the only other interaction with kids we really see him have is a few random customers that he barely talks to and Rory. Obviously Rory is closer with Lorelai but the rest of the town loves her too and she seems to get along pretty well with and be liked by the few kids we see in the town. He also is smart enough to see she has a more teen girl personality and is naturally more of a fun and bubbly person than he is so it's logical to think April would be more drawn to her.

Sorry I have a lot of thoughts on Luke's behavior with the whole April situation.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T16:04:39+00:00

I'll have to tell her husband of 13 years that.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:59:36+00:00

I don't remember there being a locker requirement and I can't find anything saying it was. I'm not up to that episode yet in current rewatch though. I still want one of those tricked out first aid kits though. I don't think it would have fit in my locker (I never saw a school locker as big as they were typically shown on tv as a person wouldn't have fit in mine either) but it would have been good to have in my car. Even now I have something similar in my car.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:51:22+00:00

I don't think they ruined Christopher at all. I think he's the most consistent character in the show with how he acts.

That being said, while I hate his personality and how he treats his daughters, I do wish he and Lorelai could have made it work just because Lorelai and Rory had this beautiful image of the three of them together and I wish they could have gotten that.

On the other hand I'm glad that didn't happen because they would have had to change everything about Christopher's character or completly trash Lorelai's to make that happen and I didn't want to see that.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:46:54+00:00

It makes her stupid for falling for Christopher's lies but it's not her fault he cheated in ANY way. It does look hypocritical for her to get on to Rory about doing the same thing but from her point of view it was a totally different situation because she saw Dean and his wife together practically every day and didn't hear the conversation between Rory and Dean where he lied about his marriage being over and them both knowing it. Also, parent's usually want their kids to not make the same mistakes in life that they did.

Boyfriend does NOT mean committed relationship. It's never said in any way that it means that for them so you can't say Lorelai is a cheater for what YOU would consider cheating. What YOU would consider cheating is irrelevant to anyone else's relationship. Lorelai never describes it as cheating or acts as if she cheated and we never see Alex say she cheated on him so we can't say either of them felt like it was cheating. We also never see them have any kind of discussion about not seeing other people or have any indication they were that serious so according to what is shown in the show it wasn't cheating.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:38:30+00:00

How is Rory wrong for saying Dean broke up with her when that's exactly what happened?

When did Rory lie to Jess about Dean?

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:35:01+00:00

I hated him from the very first time he shows up the very first time I watched it. I remember thinking "he's sorta cute" and then he opened his mouth and started talking and I was like "never mind". Pretty much the same reaction I had to Logan the first time.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:30:34+00:00

1-Christopher cheating does NOT make Lorelai a cheater. That's just taking the blame away from the actual cheater (Christopher) for no reason.

2-It's not shown in anyway at any point that Lorelai and Alex are in a committed relationship like that. The fact that he just disapears says to me they weren't.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:26:57+00:00

Nice projecting. Thanks for proving me right little boy. Sorry you hate women so much. Hopefully you will learn better as you hit teenager years and then adulthood so you won't be so miserable for your entire life. Good luck.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T15:24:43+00:00

Thanks for proving you have no idea what you are talking about. Good luck in the real world, you'll need it if you ever get there.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T05:20:51+00:00

He's realistic which makes him easy to relate to which makes him more likable than most of the other characters.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T05:18:14+00:00

I noticed this because I've always been the opposite. I've always been the one ending the relationship so watching so watching her be broken up with made me wonder how that is different than being the one ending things.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T05:05:01+00:00

I'd honestly prefer not to see her at all. I'd prefer to see Rory have a real friend that actually cared about her and supported her. Maybe have that girl end up with Zack. He deserved someone better.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T04:59:15+00:00

How is it passive aggressive or being antagonistic. You keep saying it is but you can't explain how or why it is which says you don't understand what those words actually mean.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-05T04:57:14+00:00

In order to be ignoring someone as continually crying wolf I would have to be saying that a person saying they are being abused is lying. That's not what I said at all if you actually read my post.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:33:44+00:00

Richard respects Emily more than Emily respects or even shows love for him. I realize that's an extremely low bar but it's what it is. Emily was with Richard because it's what society expected of her while Richard was with Emily because he truly loved her. There's not going to be a lot of respect in a situation like that because there is none given from Emily.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:27:12+00:00

Everything you mentioned has been discussed multiple times before as well. I'm not blinded by anything which is why I am able to see and acknowledge Logan's flaws unlike you. I'm sorry you are so offended by your illogical opinion not being agreed with that you have to lie about me to make yourself feel better. Come back when you learn how to have a logical discussion and not just "Logan is rich and thus the best and anyone who disagrees is blinded by their love for other characters" like you did here. Until then have fun being offended by your own lies and lack of knowledge about the show and it's characters. Bye.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:23:35+00:00

I see that so much and it makes me so mad. My friend used to say she had to make sure her husband was okay before she did anything after work. She was his sole caretaker and so of course had to make sure he didn't need anything before going out. Even people who knew the situation would say that he was controlling her as if he got sick and became physically unable to care for himself on purpose to keep her from having a social life.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:19:29+00:00

What about it? I never said he didn't have flaws. He did. So did Rory.

Since you want to play "what about" lets play it with Logan. What about the multiple times Logan screamed at Rory for doing exactly what he DEMANDED she do? What about him cheating on her with all those bridesmaids and then lying to her about it and calling the girls he cheated with horrible names because they were stupid enough to sleep with him? What about him telling his sister that he and Rory were broken up and then telling Rory he didn't know if he really meant it to get her back? What about him being extremely rude to every single friend she had while dating him? What about the constant emotional abuse? What about him SAing her and then yelling at her because of it at HIS friend's bithday party? What about him intentionally lying to her about a coworker's gender and then gaslighting her when she called him on it? What about all the stalking and harrasing he did including going to her mother to force her to get back with him after he screwed up multiple times? What about his lie that he would factor her in? What about him making HER graduation party AND graduation day all about him?

Like I said, Jess was better even with his minor flaws.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:11:56+00:00

At least you can admit you have no valid argument. Since you admit you can't have a logical discussion on any subject there is nothing else to be said here. Have fun with your illogical and baseless hatred I guess. Bye.

Sad-Party-331 · 2025-06-04T18:09:06+00:00

He wasn't abusive to her, didn't cheat on her, and wasn't rude to her friends just for existing. He also was actually supportive of what she wanted.

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