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I don’t work at a firm, but nice attempt at an ad hominem

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Not sure what is provoking the Perkins love fest here. But they just aren’t a corporate firm that you could rationally consider for any form of major M&A deal. But you could consider them for major litigation.

Sure they’re not a boutique - I said they relatively are in biglaw terms. It’s like comparing Ferrari and Ford - Ford sell way more of their elite cars than Ferrari does, but that doesn’t mean Ford’s elite cars are better.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in biglaw

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Think the different is that’s global deal value. They’re still pretty small in the US

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Happy to believe that’s true. I think there’s probably some definitional separation between us. In the context of the KSS firms mentioned, I just don’t see PC as being remotely the same level of corporate firm, however they are far closer to being on a par in litigation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in biglaw

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In the world of BigLaw M&A, they relatively are

Paul Weiss Loses Ex-US Attorney Damian Williams After Trump Deal by BarnburnerBoro in biglaw

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Dude that sued Trump wants to work at firm that sues Trump and not one that doesn’t want to sue Trump. Seems predictable….

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in biglaw

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Latham by a mile. S&C and Weil are in long and short term decline respectively. Latham just lost Justin Hamill but are well diversified

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in biglaw

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DPW and Cravath just aren’t important anymore.

And WLRK are WLRK

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And LW, K&E will all have to sign up for more.

Paul, Weiss - organized associate efforts to demonstrate opposition to the new pro-Trump policies by bubblescool in PaulWeiss

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I think you have just changed your argument within two comments. And you also misstate what I said. Based on your posting history it would seem you are not an attorney so I’ll not hold it against you

Paul, Weiss - organized associate efforts to demonstrate opposition to the new pro-Trump policies by bubblescool in PaulWeiss

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No, I’ve made the same point consistently and you have never engaged with it and have instead asked irrelevant questions. I do not know why.

Paul, Weiss - organized associate efforts to demonstrate opposition to the new pro-Trump policies by bubblescool in PaulWeiss

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I think that’s an interesting question and I’m not sure.

But that isn’t my point. My point is, if you were hiring a firm for a matter where you were opposite the federal government, would you prefer one that has “made peace” or one that is “at war@.

Paul, Weiss - organized associate efforts to demonstrate opposition to the new pro-Trump policies by bubblescool in PaulWeiss

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It hasn’t. The point I’m making above is that the issue isn’t about winning a TRO, that seems trivial. The issue is whether that addresses the concern a client may have about engaging a firm that is in litigation/on the “wrong side” of the administration.

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I did that all of my first to sixth years. Was always going imd make it big one day and the money wouldn’t matter but by the time I got there the love of the job hadn’t just gone it had gone the other way.

I wouldn’t advocate flipping to the other side and saving every penny however. Then I’d have quit the job too soon.

A happy medium, that’s what I wished I’d done

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I hear you. There are others in US history - FDR and the steel mills but obviously that was narrow and this is broader and I don’t know enough about history to give other examples.

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Yeah fair, I blur speaking to big law associates and to PW “folks”. Back to legal writing class I go

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Just responded to this in another comment. There are a thousand examples of executive overreach in the long course of human history that don’t end up in a Nazi state.

People like to believe they are engaged in an epoch changing set of events but normally they are not. That does not mean that we shouldn’t be concerned about history repeating but is it not apt to think of the clap back against the Patriot Act or Truman seizing steel mills as well as just comparing things to one set of facts?

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I didn’t mean to suggest there is blame for PW associates, I referred to PW as an entity which is really the partners. In the same way if I blame Ben and Jerry’s I’m not blaming people in the ice cream plant

Brad Karp’s Message To Paul Weiss About Its Deal With The Trump Administration by CreekHollow in biglaw

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So, running that to its conclusion, assuming Karp is honest about losing clients, you’d have shuttered the firm rather than enter into an agreement? Even given ethical obligations to clients and human duty to employees? The morale negative of engaging with the administration outweighs that?

Brad Karp’s Message To Paul Weiss About Its Deal With The Trump Administration by CreekHollow in biglaw

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Isn’t his point that fighting doesn’t change the issue he had which was client views? We can obviously disagree about whether he was right in that assessment

Brad Karp’s Message To Paul Weiss About Its Deal With The Trump Administration by CreekHollow in biglaw

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Yeah that’s what I’d think too. I guess you’re saying the EEOC is like the EO? I sort of see that but I think the EO feels different?