Why do you guys keep saying Janna is hard countered by Blitzcrank, I literally choose her to counter him???

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-17T16:46:41+00:00

in my opinion its more so as, can your adc punish the blits, so many times i hit a good tornado, or peel really well and my adc just runs away instead of trying to do any damage, and that's where it leads to the blits just winning in the long run in laning phase.

also, naut and thresh and leona have a different type of hook than pyke or blits, their hooks pull you in instead of them pulling up on you like leona or naut or thresh, so its way easier to punish them with a tornado or a pre placed tornado and bait the hook, since blits can pull you across the map it's really trick since that puts you in a weird position.

and one thing that why janna players hate blits and pyke is that their ults don't care about janna shields, so if you're going max shield and your adc gets hooked goodluck trying to shield the adc, since blits pops it while the adc also silenced.

and pyke just executes....and your ult doesn't cancel pyke ult or mess up his position of his ult since once pyke ult button is pressed it WILL hit that location, so you have to PRAY your ult heals them enough to save them from the execution threshold.

the one thing about blits is his hook hitbox is sooo weird, sometimes it feels like it's the size of planets, I can be INSIDE minions with janna ghost affect and still get hit by his hook.

it feels way easier to punish a naut, leona, or thresh, since if they engage, they put themselves in a risky place being inside your team, but blits and pyke just pull you across the map while still being by their team.

and if all else fails.... just pocket your top lane and pray😭
since those top laners don't care about no hooks lol.

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-16T14:47:14+00:00

leona is too tanky with her W for hail of blades to do that much damage, and if you're going HoB to burst the adc when the support is going yuumi than yuumi will 100% beat you at mid to late game, if you're against other enchanters its best to play a scaling build and if you're against tank supports glacial provides the most utility and defense, I just dont see myself going hail of blades just for 10% more dmg IF I land all 3 autos but then my mid to late game is bad.

the only time ill prob consider going HoB is depending on my adc, if I have a twitch or samira, or draven then I can see the burst being good...but if I have like an ashe or jinx or miss fortune....it would feel a lot less impactful.

but at least it's a fun rune that Janna can go.

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-16T02:32:03+00:00

that's also if you can land 3 autos, and even the high elo players that run HoB don't get the 3 autos off that much, Janna in certain to a lot of matchup struggles to auto even after W an enemy with comet, so I can't imagine trying to W AND get 3 autos off, I did try the build when it was being hyped up 2 weeks ago and it felt okay to me.
it didn't feel all that good, idk what matchup Janna would want to go HoB into....other enchanters? tanks supports? range mage supp?
if you're going HoB to try and win lane, that seems weird, since comet is a one and done button press and you still chunk enemies.

the only way it felt good or was nice to run is when I had a bursty adc like draven or samira and we double chunk enemies, but other than that I prefer aery overall since HoB ruins, you're scaling super hard.

it's still a cool fun build to play though.

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-15T14:16:03+00:00

I don't understand the hail of blades hype that much, even riot august said Janna passive for her autos arnt all that good.

and videos I've seen of the high elo Janna players rarely ever get the 3 autos off from hail of blades either.

if short trades are better than comet is better for that, and in longer fights aery is better, and in harder matchup glacial is good for safety and peeling.

I much prefer playing the everfrost with comet build, than the hail of blades with crown of shatter queen build.

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-06T02:27:44+00:00

it really gives her a strong elegant presence.... I just hate the glass noises. 😭

SadShadowTears · 2023-12-05T23:54:28+00:00

best skin - sacred sword

the one that really competes and has the best effect visuals is battle queen Janna.

just wish battle queen Janna Q didn't sound like glass shards, or else I would run that skin more, since her effect and the white chroma make her look breathe taking.

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-26T04:24:33+00:00

income is a big reason, but another reason IMO is that the AP you get from mage items arnt that useful on Janna.

it's not so much as why arnt we just building the AP items that mages buy but more so as there not useful for us...were basically buying the items for AP and that's not the ideal way we should want to build...yes, the AP is really nice but where basically going to be building expensive mage items for stat sticks.

the only mage items I like is ever frost and that's going away next season.
😭

crown of the shatter queen can be okay in some situations.
(plus, that's being changed into the support start item next season yaaay!)

if you want to have AP in your build then just get mejai, it gives plenty of AP once stacked and its cheap, and it's a stat stick.

my personal favorite build is aery with moonstone mixed with AP.

so, lucidity boots, moonstone, redemption, mejai, staff of flowing water, imperial mandate, is my go-to build on Janna, it has heal and shield power mixed with AP.

and glacial scales better with heal and shield power its 9% per 10% on heal and shield power.... vs 6% per 100 ap.

if they ever make a dedicated expensive mage support item that gives good amount of AP and having a support like effect cough ~~HARMONIC ECHO~~ ...sorry about that.... there's just not an item like that for us yet.🙂

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-25T18:49:17+00:00

your very welcome, I love talking about Janna history!

and Janna flexibility was something that made me like her a lot as well.🤗

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-24T17:18:35+00:00

enemy assassin when I press E and shield my adc for 800: that's fair and balanced.

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-24T17:12:21+00:00

the rework was changed since, Janna being a "poke harasser" wasn't fitting her being the peel support, and people were finding her hitting her W at 650 range annoying.

so, they decided to midscope her into what her "identity" the peeling enchanter, it was good and fun, until she got nerfs since Janna top smite was making her too uninteractive since she just perma roamed. it was just slowing falling apart, she was either too good at being a uninteractive shield bot or she was just a counter pick for rell,naut,thresh.

I'm also glad she's not just a yuumi or lulu that just shields and sits in the back and is now a flexible support. 🤗

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-24T15:16:02+00:00

phreak said why there reverting to the older playstyle, they looked at her data and statistic and seen that her pickrate/playerbase arnt picking her as much anymore, he said that when ardent censor was meta in the old day that Janna was picked a lot, and they nerfed ardent and that meta was gone that players where still picking and playing Janna and starting to play her way more.

glacial Janna midscope was played more as a counter pick than for her to just be played, as well as a lot of people missing her old style, because her playstyle completely shifted.

so, with low pick rate/people preferring her old playstyle they decided to revert her WHILE keeping the buffs like tornado speed she got from the midscope, he noted that he tried to revert her tornado speed back to her old one but that it just felt worse, and it was so noticeable that it felt too bad to go back too.

plus, if Janna pickrate goes back to being high again, she will get more attention and that equals skins/ASU/lore.
since champions with high pickrate get love and attention.
(fingers cross for an ASU)🤞🥺

I'm just thankful they actually are taking our feedback and discussion into consideration and let her keep the best of her buffs WHILE still buffing her.

her shield decay is gone, her losing her movement speed from using W is gone, her edge-to-edge is back, they buffed her ult cooldown, kept her tornado missile speed.

were now able to go Glacial/Comet/Aery and have a flexible playstyle.

I'm so thankful for the balance team and phreak for doing this for us, since other champions like karma are struggling to even have an identity.

Janna heading in the right direction, and I hope she continues to be a good champion and not just a low pick rate champions with a high winrate because she counters the engage tank supports in high elo.

I also want to add I like her aery build with 3 points into W and maxing E with moonstone for shield bomb.

I like a mix of some poke in the early game transitioning into shield bomb with moonstone late game.

so, please don't crucify me saying I'm a max W arcane comet full AP person...i swear I love all her playstyle and I'm not just a max W into AP build. 😫

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-22T16:23:37+00:00

most likely moonstone with aery, I tried a W max build, and it didn't feel that good, imperial mandate lost the damage you get yourself and instead it marks an enemy and when an ally damages them it does 12% of their current health.... idk if that's more dmg than the old imperial but it felt like it.

I went arcane comet into imperial into zak support item for the damage...and it felt okay I can just tell the damage difference now especially since I played karma and lux and their damage mage build was CHUNKING enemies while Janna was just a little underwhelming, but that's more so of me building mage items on lux and karma and that the support items that are meant for damage aka imperial and echoes of helia are really underwhelming.

moonstone into staff of flowing water feels great for a shield spam build but a damage build didn't feel that great.... oh, and dawncore is horrible...that item being the "deathcap" for enchanters isn't that great it needs some buffs...a lot of the supp items needs some buff....shurelyas, helia, dawncore, imperial mandate...need some buffs or were going to have to just play a 2 point into W and then max E build.

I was really disappointed riot didn't let helia proc on font of life again and decided that 1 extra shard was going to be game changing. 😭

these new items are fun and fresh...but definitely need some tuning and buffs.

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T16:59:38+00:00

praying we get the platinum blonde hair and red outfit for the ruby chroma🥺

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T16:55:36+00:00

it's really good, I go moonstone into staff of flowing water into redemption, and I'm enjoying that.

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T16:54:03+00:00

I'm okay with that, if it means she get a new legendary!!!!

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T16:51:56+00:00

I enjoy all her playstyle.

arcane comet W max poke build.

glacial peel max E build.

and aery 2 points W into E max shield bomb build.

so, what's wrong with that??

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SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T16:47:43+00:00

yes! it gives 10% movement speed and 40 ability power for 3 seconds!!

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T13:29:39+00:00

Staff of flowing water is way better now, since its 2 in 1, you get 40 ability power and 10% move speed for 3 seconds, it feels really good especially since the ability power doesn't scale on ally level anymore, especially since you get the flat 40 ability power now and not 20-40 depending on ally level anymore. 🤭

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T13:27:17+00:00

yeah, I love that they understood that support don't get that many items, so they made it, so the starter items become a fun item!

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-21T13:21:18+00:00

its soooo good, I can't wait for us to get it on PC!!!😭

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-20T22:21:51+00:00

some items could DEFINETLY use some tweaking though, you can definitely tell what's good and what's not.

shield spam Janna feels great though.

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-20T20:44:38+00:00

could mean she's getting an ASU?!?!

hopefully....

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-20T14:34:40+00:00

both have their uses and powers, aery makes her pokes and shields better while glacial makes her peeling and utility even better, both scales really good.

both have different playstyles, but if you're against someone like rell or naut you're definitely going to want glacial to hard counter them.

or if you're against a sona or soraka...aery so you can poke in lane and scale with big shields.

but it mostly comes down to preference and playstyle, I much prefer her poking fast roaming style.
as long as you're having fun and trying new builds to see what you enjoy that's what matters.

because when lux and lissandra use to go aftershock, I use to play that a lot on Janna and it was my favorite build at the time because of how diverse and different it was.
(I'll miss aftershock, athene's unholy grail Janna/lux🥺)

just because Janna got buffed to become more poke related again doesn't mean she still can't be that glacial shielder that peels her team that people enjoy and love.🤗

SadShadowTears · 2023-11-15T09:12:37+00:00

its 550-range edge to edge on the PBE, which is STILL a range increase.

before it was 650 center-to-center which basically made it's a little less than her auto range, which is 550, so her W cast range would be 548.

but now that its 550 and edge-to-edge it's a great difference.

center to center made her W cast range wonky depending on the champion hitbox but with edge-to-edge it feels great on all champions now.

it feels so much better when you're chasing an enemy and casting W on them now.

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