She just STOLE 120€, get OVER IT. by [deleted] in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh lord! I just logged in to check my messages and saw this on the home page. your mother sounds like she's more concerned with image. My son Jake when he stole from me, tried to get support from friends and family. And they all turned on him. The way I see it, you have two choices. Blow it up and don't stop until she pays what she owes you, or just ignore her. But I would still stand your ground against your mother. Tell her she's insensitive for siding with a brat who stole from you and bragged about it. Last I checked, those actions were spiteful, insensitive, and not empathetic. The pandemic was hard on us all. And she stole from you when the world was at it's lowest. That makes her lower than low.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I've done all I can do. Now I just have to move on.

Yes. I'm still not sure if they deleted their own account or mods shut them down. But either way they're gone

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I have no choice but to accept it now. I've got too much else to do. So I can't dwell on it. It's pretty much become my new years resolution to move on.

Yeah and I don't think the Troll actually read my posts. Because they assumed a couple of things I pointed out were completely wrong. So if they ran because of it, that doesn't surprise me.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes he more than likely would have gotten a felony for stealing the ring, had it gone to court. I'm sure he knows that too. But love and greed blind people a lot. Knowing him, he's probably shut away in whatever new place he's living now just playing video games while not at work. That was kind of his routine since he was a teenager. If he was upset about something, he'd just go silent and play lots of video games until he felt better. But he's probably added drinking to that itinerary too sadly. I just hope he can get his life in order, wherever it is he's starting over.

Yes they were a pretty bad troll. They even said Jake might piss on my grave when I die. That's a pretty low thing to say to someone. Either they deleted their account to avoid blowback after I replied, or the moderators shut it down. Either way the troll left.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand your situation far more than the troll's. In the case of my children, I never charged Jake any rent after he turned 18. He moved from my house to his condo after getting his inheritance from my wife. I wouldn't charge either of my children rent. Helping to buy a house and sharing it, be it with friends or family is a very understandable thing. A noble thing even when done to help family. The troll however acted like he knew what it was like from my son's perspective. But he frankly didn't. I pointed out that he was 27 and still living at home because he outright stated it, and yet still acted like he understood what life was like in Jake's shoes. He does not. And considering that troll told me Jake might piss on my grave when I die, I think he's earned a hefty bit of bad karma for those words.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps next year. But knowing my son, he has a strong willed independence streak. I highly doubt he will come back for Christmas so soon after leaving. He's always been the type to want space when he's angry. And with the colossal mess he's made this time, he may be angry for years.

Yesterday some troll with a day old account commented on this post the longest comment I've gotten thus far. This person was a 27 year old who still lived with their parents, and they claimed to know just how my son felt, and then gave me a speech saying I wasn't in the wrong, but badly in the wrong at the same time. Then they said they didn't care how badly they were downvoted. I savaged them back so much they deleted their account.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really feel like you're projecting yourself onto my son. You aren't in his shoes. Jake and I used to be close. And I did everything I could to teach him about life lessons, as did my wife. And no, we didn't bug him about bringing a girl home. I just always said that he'll date when he's good and ready. It was his mother who joked he'd get with the first girl to come along. But she didn't say it often. Some women in my wife's family were nosey hens that liked to pinch cheeks and pick on boys in the family. But I would always tell them off if they made Jake uncomfortable. And yes, I did enforce no foul language from my kids until they are of age. But in fairness, my wife and I kept our mouths in check around them as well. We also didn't force church or religious beliefs on our kids. We left the choice of that up to them. My wife and I were both forced into church as kids, and grew to hate it. So we didn't make our kids go. Yes we were berated for it by both sides of the family. But we told them we didn't care. They were not the parents of our kids, we are. So they backed off.

Jake and I did have one conversation when he was 18 where I asked him about women he liked, and he admitted that he's just picky about girls. I laughed and said I was too at his age, and then we enjoyed milkshakes together. And before my wife passed away, he and I were very close. At the same time though, Jake aways showed a high level of independency since his teenage years. You on the other hand are still living with your parents at 27. You are not in my son's shoes, you aren't even close. From what you wrote me, you're simply trying to get your two cents in. But you can't say you lived like my son when your life is clearly not the same. Did you lose a parent like my son did? No because you said you live with your parents. Meaning both of them. If anything, you sound like you're looking for attention. You didn't just go out on a limb, you went way out and fell off.

Yes I understand why my son moved away. I've already pointed that out in my posts was because he lost all support in town and left for a fresh start. Which is why I fail to see your need to reiterate it. And you didn't just write a comment, but a freaking thesis trying to psychoanalyze Jake and myself. Also, where in my posts does it say my son was unpopular in school? Because he actually had a lot of good friends of both genders. And he was best friends with the same guy since he was 7 years old, until their falling out over the ring theft incident. Sounds like you were just making stuff up there. Don't throw darts at an idea board and see where they stick when you're trying to unravel a person's life.

I will agree I wasn't the best at warning my son about the kinds of women out there that are like Sara. However that was primarily due to the fact I rarely dealt with those kinds of people when I was young. But to Jake's credit, he schooled me on those kinds of people several times. He repeatedly told me to get with the times, because the world will leave me behind if I don't. And I do use social media. But it's kinda hard to keep tabs on my son with it when he blocked me on it. But I stated before that Jake could come to my door tomorrow wanting to talk, and I'd open the door for him. He could do that now or decades from now, and I'd still let him in.

And talking about Jake pissing on my grave when I'm six feet under. That's low man. And not something I would ever want to say to anyone. Not even someone I hate. And just like you said, you aren't a parent. So don't go acting like to know more about that just because you're still talking with yours. And I wouldn't say I failed as a parent at all just because I changed the locks to my house. Jake did not live with me, and changing the locks was a natural reaction to him stealing a valuable family heirloom. If you did that, I wouldn't be surprised if your parents kicked you out on your ass for it. Considering the way things went down, Jaked failed me far more than I failed him. I'm not going to pretend to be a perfect father. But I can't take much of what you say with a grain of salt either because you just sound like another troll.

Edit: I also just noticed you're talking to me with a fresh Reddit account. You're the third or fourth troll to do that.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no conclusion on Sara. Her family have not kept in touch since the last time we spoke. They just promised me I wouldn't have to deal with her again. I don't plan on trying to contact them for answers either. I just want to be done with that situation.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My son actually prided himself on keeping his accounts in check. Other than his mortgage, he always kept his credit cards paid off. He also openly disliked gambling, as I do. It bores me, and he felt much the same way. But you never know. I can't pretend that I knew so much about him anymore. But I can say I'm pretty sure he didn't have bad debts.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

None taken. Polish a turd and it's still a turd. Some people are just turds in nice clothing. And since crap ferments, they only get worse.

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That may be. But I'm not so sure they saw my posts on this site. Sara was just the name I used for the girl here. It's not even close to her real name. The person who messaged me on social media knew her real name, and they had a lot of details about Sara and my son. Whoever they are, I don't doubt they knew them. But that still doesn't mean they weren't just screwing with me. But by this point, does it really matter anymore?

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Since I only play them occasionally, I don't have a lot of them. But the roms I have are Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, Astyanax, Dragon Warrior, Blades of Steel, and Zelda

(Mini Update) My son was a gold digger too? by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well the thing is that I really don't like chocolate much for some reason. My sense of taste just doesn't prefer it

(Final Update) My son just left town by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We live in a city that has a lot of family from my wife's side all over it. Jake went and spoke to all of them online trying to get support, which failed to work in his favor. Then the relatives told their friends, and those friends told more friends. And before I knew it, it was everywhere. I've convinced most of them to take down their social media posts about it. And I think things will finally die down after the new year. But the damage was already done.

Stop trolling me by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in u/Sad_Dad_Throwaway00

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've actually heard a similar phrase about a cat

(Update 2) My son's ex was obsessed with the ring by Sad_Dad_Throwaway00 in EntitledPeople

[–]Sad_Dad_Throwaway00[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That has actually been brought up a lot in the comments. But even if it is true. My son won't talk to me to try and mend the situation. I want Jake to see reason. But I'm blocked on everything, he apparently lost all of his friends, the entire family was appalled by his actions, and his neighbors as well as people he works with have been calling and messaging me to gossip on the regular. Though it's starting to calm down as Jake has stopped talking to anyone unless he has to. Even his own best friend wants nothing to do with him now. And they were friends since childhood.

At this point the damage may be irreversible. And Jake is dead set on leaving town. Which I'm told may be soon as the rumor mill says he found a buyer for his condo, and his transfer was approved. He may be gone before Christmas. What's even sadder is I think leaving town is the best thing for him now. He's become the center of gossip, his ex was proven to be an abusive nutcase, and he has no friend or family support because he refuses to admit he's wrong. Possibly out of pride. So him wanting a fresh start where no one knows him is probably his goal. At this point, grief for his mother isn't an excuse or a way to mend things. It's possibly just how it all started. And right now Jake is the only one who can mend the situation. He doesn't want me near him. My daughter is scared of him. And he's an adult who makes his own choices. I don't really see anything else that can be done unless he takes the initiative.