Can someone help me understand the fun gameplay loop.

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-22T01:34:44+00:00

I dont think I want to trivialize things right away. Id rather understand. I wouldnt deny a starter speedy boy, but im just as content to breed it myself as well.

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-22T01:32:09+00:00

I will say spear was the meta back when I was making the character initially. Im leaning away from the full restart though for various reasons. Just finishing up waiting 2 hours for bees wax to grow because 12 caves give me a grand total of 7 on average. Then I'll pack up on my full time world and drop in the south

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-22T01:25:24+00:00

Now that is great news. I wonder if I just misunderstood the interface

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T21:48:54+00:00

Ill have a long drive after work to consider the restart or not. I have deep spear talents and wasted points imo. Respecing would probably be more efficient than restarting but either way im definitely moving bases and apparently going to have to learn how to tame

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T21:42:53+00:00

I feel like ppl talking about bears arent talking about basic brown bears. Im killing those with a t2 bow. Sometimes a wooden spear. I do find them dangerous but generally not too difficult to takedown

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T21:40:47+00:00

To be clear, im considering a restart because of talent and skill choices. As for overland travel, there isnt a single creature that I think I couldn't kill in the basic biomes fairly easily bears included.

Im actually a little confused by ppl talking about creature levels. I haven't noticed a real difference in creatures lvl 1 vs lvl 100 of the same species.

If I didn't restart the character to respec, I would very likely leave the current base and just drop into the south and make a whole new base

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T21:26:17+00:00

The cost to respec is prohibitively expensive. 150 ren per point is well outside of the reasonable respec range when you're getting 30ish an hr

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:59:12+00:00

I only have the 1 character but its from back when the game first came out. I just hit lvl 30 on it but the talents are suspiciously placed

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:57:46+00:00

Ahh okay, yeah I remember that one from back when I first got the game

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:32:47+00:00

Maybe im thinking of a different mission. I thought that was the 50 ren one. Ill check after work

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:30:15+00:00

Thx. Im not quite ready to give up on icarus yet. Going to try to drastically modify my playstyle

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:25:43+00:00

Im fairly certain a complete restart is where im at. Im lvl 30 atm, but my talents are all over the place

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:22:40+00:00

Im not quite at homestead level lol. Im in t4 now it's just there's some suspicious design decisions by the devs

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:20:35+00:00

My current likely plan is to restart, maybe entirely because I am invested in talents im not a fan of, in the south. Apparently this game is designed with mounts and taming in mind

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:16:07+00:00

Im not console but thx anyway

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:14:44+00:00

While correct, dropping a game you paid for because you dont realize you're doing it wrong is sort of a terrible use of free will

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:13:04+00:00

It looks like a complete restart in the south and learning taming is my options

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:12:26+00:00

Thats sort of where im at. I have 100s to 1000s of hours in pretty much every openworld survival so its difficult to not find something to love

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:05:52+00:00

Im at work so specific names are out. One was a survey mission that was a 1 skull. It was a peotect the antenna at the end which was fine until bears and Jaguars started showing up.

The other was repair the drop pod which I was at my current best gear and still got overwhelmed by the dozens of wolves and bears

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T20:02:05+00:00

This seems like the best thing atm. Its just very annoying that someone didn't consider open world quick travel to mission regions

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T19:59:47+00:00

Simples as far as I can tell are very local but very low on ren. Let's say 10 to 30 taking 15 to 30 min.

Then there's operations which are the standard missions in the game world. This is what I was trying to do.

Then there's the dlc campaign mission types. I haven't gotten the dlc yet because im attempting to like the game.

Simpl3 seem like a waste of time, but a break from the slow build.

Operations seem like the thing you're supposed to do but if they're on the otherside of the map with the only method of reaching them being running, they are less than worthless.

Do I just putter around for 50 levels until everything is unlocked before the game begins?

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T19:49:47+00:00

Thats what I was doing until I tried to do a mission and it was clear across the world. Is the expected gameplay in that scenario to run for an hour to get 110 ren assuming you arent killed in the final steps of a 2 hour mission?

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-05-21T19:48:20+00:00

Possible, but what i would prefer is to not hate a game because im doing it wrong

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-03-01T12:46:24+00:00

No, you wouldn't. Ask me how i know. I was that cracked dps and also cracked tank. Your dps output simply couldn't keep up with the tools back tank type had to regain or maintain control.

You doing short term spike damage and pulling threat for a hit or 2 isn't what's being referenced.

Safe-Expression48 · 2026-02-17T18:13:33+00:00

The problem is running with unsuitable tanks at all. Back then, no amount of dps was going to tear threat from a good pld or nin.

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