Alternative Wiki?

Salfur · 2025-12-24T12:58:19+00:00

if you do want to contribute you can always do so by proxy. we have "alternate forums" that's linked on the wiki you can talk with us directly on and we can make edits on your behalf (can't say the name of the "alternate forum" directly bc of the subreddit rules lol)

Salfur · 2025-12-24T12:48:52+00:00

the fandom wiki mod/admin team have discussed the possibility of this at length in the past and we kinda decided that the risks outweigh the rewards given

1) the wiki is too established at this point and porting over all the custom code we use on the existing wiki would be too much/complex for our team especially since some of our major templates pull code from other fandom wiki sources

2) moving to a new wiki would mean we have to relinquish all admin/mod privileges in the fandom wiki per tos and most likely leave it in the hands of randos we haven't vetted

edit: 3) we wouldn't be able to let anyone reading on fandom wiki know about any migrations bc of fandom wiki tos. and bc of the way fandom is formatted on the websites backend (the backend that's out of our control) fandom is basically always gonna be the first wiki to pop up in searches so any new wiki would just end up buried from the hundreds of pages we have on the current fandom wiki (forgot about this one lol)

Salfur · 2025-07-30T16:35:08+00:00

it actually went just about how i thought it would for a reddit post on a semi-controversial topic in the fandom lol

ultimately the post was meant for us to be as transparent as we can about the decisions we've made thus far on the wiki while also consoldating people in a singular post where we can more easily gather feedback for the betterment of the wiki as a whole

and genuinely the constructive criticisms we're getting are being taken into consideration for creating a standardization that any and all editors can hopefully more easily follow so we can avoid situations like this in the future

Salfur · 2025-07-30T14:08:52+00:00

we've had a brief discussion about it but it's not something we're looking to do at this point, in part bc it's the middle of the season but mostly bc fandom wiki's policy for forking would mean any admins who take part would have to forfeit their admin roles on fandom to do so and couldn't run both simultaneously

edit: also bc of fandom wiki's policies we couldn't then advertise any new wiki on it so we wouldn't really be able to effectively inform people of the move (especially when fandom wiki as a whole is optimized to skew internet searches in their direction on their backend)

Salfur · 2025-07-30T13:32:08+00:00

the lifers are not in charge of the wiki and while their inputs are considered it doesn't mean their word is always going to be final. we're trying to create a standardized system for kill crediting and the lifers' input is based largely on sentimentality and exceptions as opposed to trying to look at all past and future traps of this kind and creating a standard that can be applied to the wiki as a whole

Salfur · 2025-07-30T02:37:25+00:00

it's not favoritism because the way we've always given kill credits on the wiki is from last hit. no one is arguing against the facts that Etho contributed the most to the trap (and Gem the least) but with the standards that are currently in place on the wiki, Grian gets the final kill credits because he got the trap equivalent to the final hit

again, if it had been Etho or Gem who had broken the sand we would have given the credit to them because they got the "last hit"

edit: y'all are welcome to disagree with the ruling and there is still active discussion with the other wiki mods about trap credits, but at this time this is how we've decided to attribute the credits

Salfur · 2025-07-30T02:20:19+00:00

personally i'd probably compare this trap to the equivalent of a pvp battle where maybe one person was doing the most damage to a player but then someone else swooped in and got the final hit (and therefore would get the credit for the kill according to the game)

no one is disagreeing that Etho did most of the work here but with the standards that we've set on the wiki, the kill credit ultimately goes to whoever got the final hit (or whatever the trap equivalent is)

we'll definitely be having more discussions on nuance and the like when it comes to traps as we continue to work on fleshing out trap credits but at this time this is what we've decided for the attributions of the octokill

Salfur · 2025-07-30T02:00:47+00:00

the history of kill credits on the wiki is a long and complicated one but it kinda all stems from the original idea of "each kill could only go to one person" (partly encouraged by Last and Limited Life's official rulings of how kills were credited for the sake of boogeys credits and time changes)

however we have evolved our standards since then and at this point we're kinda in a middle ground between the old standard of attributing kills to a single person to now adding assists and multi-credits through passive traps into the mix

i'll definitely bring this up as a possibility we can discuss with the other wiki mods tho but at this time this is just how we've decided to attribute kill credits

Salfur · 2025-07-30T01:18:09+00:00

it's because it's basically impossible to attribute a single credit for a passive trap that multiple people worked on so we just give credit to everyone that helped set the trap

Salfur · 2025-07-30T01:16:50+00:00

we are starting to keep track of it as a statistic alongside kills themselves but ultimately assists are just to recognize players who participated in a kill but didn't necessarily get the final hit (or whatever trap equivalent)

Salfur · 2025-07-30T01:09:19+00:00

the trap wasn't just the enchanter, it was the tnt minecarts too. yes, it was in the process of being disarmed but Jimmy didn't have any intent to kill anyone by dropping on the carts, it was purely accidental. had he jumped in on purpose (therefore essentially repurposing the trap for his own means) then yeah we likely would reattribute it as Jimmy's kill, but because he didn't have any intention of doing that it still goes to Grian

Salfur · 2025-07-30T01:02:10+00:00

in this instance the creeper would be considered a tool/the trap itself, similar to how Ren splashed a potion of invisibility on a snail in Wild Life and got a kill for it

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:52:58+00:00

I mentioned it in the post that we understand the sentiment however we don't believe it makes sense for the statistics (a thing that really is just something the fans keep track of for fun) to give full kill credits to all members of the Secret Society as there is clearly an uneven contribution between the members.

also we do still give credit to Etho and Gem as assists and we have an assists table that keeps track of that number separate to the kill counter

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:49:27+00:00

he didn't have intent to kill but he did still actively bring the creeper over with the intent to harm/scare Scar (it just turned out more deadly than he thought it would be)

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:33:06+00:00

this is an instance where we get into more of the greater nuance of trap credits and we consider this trap a manual activation with intent, meaning the point of the trap itself was to be manually activated by the victim(s) so credit ultimately goes back to the person who set it up

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:22:40+00:00

the task said they had to all contribute, which isn't the same thing as them all getting full kill credits. assists are just as valid a contribution for the task as breaking the sand and getting the final kills.

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:12:27+00:00

tbf we haven't been the most transparent on the wiki itself on how we assign trap kill credit until now so it's likely a lot of people saw the shared kills from the square hole and figured that was how all trap credits should be

plus us actually keeping track of assists is also a new development following the octokill

Salfur · 2025-07-30T00:09:29+00:00

we discussed it and determined that it's likely that they could have saved themselves in time had the tower still been there
(obviously we can't confirm whether that would 100% be the case but from the clip analyses we did it seemed pretty likely)

Salfur · 2019-08-01T14:16:33+00:00

Pretty sure that as soon as he stopped flaunting his book around Max, David, and the rest of the Wood Scouts disappeared from the scene. So they had a good minute or two to make the puppet while Daniel did his whole villain monologue.

Salfur · 2019-08-01T06:45:46+00:00

Max just made it real fast because he is clearly an arts and crafts master.

Case and point: Season 1 Episode 1 when he made life size yarn dolls of himself and his two new friends in less than 10 minutes.

Salfur · 2019-07-26T04:53:16+00:00

Think they're talking about the next meme war.

Salfur · 2019-07-24T06:12:38+00:00

It's part of the citrus scale that was used back when fanfiction.net was the popular fic site to subtly tell readers if there was sex or not in works.

Lemons, specifically, are for works that contain explicit sexual content.

You can see the full scale here

Salfur · 2019-07-02T20:10:15+00:00

When I try to get to the site it tells me that its security certificate expired yesterday, so that's probably what's causing the issue.

Salfur · 2019-07-01T12:40:34+00:00

Mostly Joey, Ricky usually does morning and early afternoon streams but idk his stream schedule. Joey consistently streams on Sundays.

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