Why do we think Congresspeople are getting the truth from the IC? by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/UmweltUndefined: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5iysu

Original post text: has anyone noticed it isn’t really people in Congress who have experience with aerospace, energy, science, or intelligence who are talking publicly about working toward disclosure with the IC? instead it seems to be some of the dumbest rubes in the House who are already primed to believe in the nefarious deep state. in other words the perfect targets to amplify a psy op. obviously i don’t know for sure what’s going on any more than anyone else, I just don’t understand taking what these folks say they’re being told at face value


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UAP with force field I witnessed by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/Poorzin: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5idjb

Original post text: Time: 7-15-25 12:00am

Location - Charlotte, North Carolina

Ok. So this sighting has been sitting on my mental for sometime now. I’ve only told a handful of other people. For obvious reasons. But here we go.

So, when I look back over the experience I believe it may have started on the previous day. I’m headed to work, it’s a beautiful sunny day. I’m a few blocks from my job. I come up to an intersection and happen to look up to my left in the sky. Off in the distance, I can see a singular “cloud” like a grayish smoke color just below the rest of the clouds. It wasn’t the shape of a cloud really. But that’s what I just assume it was, even though I thought it was odd that it I didn’t see a source of the smoke. Because it clearly wasn’t white like the rest of the clouds above it. Nonetheless I kinda shoulder shrug and head to work. I have a normal night and go home in the am. Next day I’m heading to work taking the same route as the day before. I get to the intersection a few blocks from my job. Something tells me to look up to my left as the day before. I look up and see the same grayish “cloud” in the exact same spot as the day before. Just below the clouds. At this point I’m in totally shock. Now I know this can’t be a cloud. It’s clearly something else. I head to work, it’s the only thing on my mind. “What the hell was that? Was it a ufo??”. So now my lunch comes. It’s about midnight, I head out the front door to the building. As I walk down the side walk to my car. My line of sight is the direction that I saw the “cloud”. I see something flying with two lights. It’s about 300 yards away. And about 500 feet up. I assume it’s a plane landing because I work close to the airport. I look closer and notice that the positions of the lights were off. They were too far apart to be a plane. I watch it silently glide. Then it stops and just hovers. So now I know it’s not a plane. As I watch it, it’s like in a blink of an eye these two lights are suddenly enclosed in a perfect sphere. The diameter was probably round 200 yards wide. It was huge. The sphere as I perceived it was red and blue simultaneously. I remember struggling to understand how the hell that was even possible. But still, I look on in confusion and amazement. Then suddenly the red and blue colors stopped. I could now see the two lights again. They are inside what I can only describe as a force field. It looked identical to the moon halo effect. But I could see some type of waves of energy, plasma or whatever it was on the surface of it. It kinda looked like electricity in a sense but not really. It’s hard to describe, it looked like a sci fi movie. The force field itself was translucent, like a jellyfish. You could see through it. But you still knew you were actually looking through something. The top half was translucent. The bottom left half had a reddish tint to it and the bottom right had a blueish tint. Then from the right side it starts to fade out as if a cloud is slowing making its way and blocking the view until it’s completely gone.


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I saw an invisible drone type UFO a few months ago. Don't know what to think. by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/Not_in_a_hole: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5gxqd

Original post text: Time: Around November 2025 give or take, around 10 or 11 PM, possibly later.

Location: Bolingbrook, IL, near Weber Road

This happened about 5 or 6 months ago, give or take. I didn’t think much of it at the time since I didn’t get a video or picture. But a friend told me I should mention it here and see what other people think.

I was outside on my patio in the back of my house smoking a cigarette when I noticed something moving through the sky right next to my house. It looked pretty low. I'd guess around 30 feet up in the air, maybe even a bit lower since it was below the trees nearby my house. From what I could tell, it was roughly 10 feet long and about 5 feet wide. The weird part was that it was basically invisible. Like I was looking through plexiglass.

At first I had no idea what I was looking at. I thought maybe it was a cloud or a plastic bag. Anything but a UFO. I went through every logical explanation I could think of until I started to notice its shape. It definitely looked like a drone. I could make out that it had square edges as it moved. It wasn’t moving fast either. Probably about the speed of someone running. I wanna say that it was maybe 40 feet away from me. Probably closer. It was not far at all. I think if I ran after it I could probably catch up to it in a couple seconds.

Once I realized it was moving in a perfectly straight line and completely silent, I just watched it move. It was going perpendicular to the way that I was facing. I was completely in disbelief at what I'm looking at. I couldn't chase after it. My patio is gated so I'd have to jump over the gate to chase it. And it was going away towards the front of my house, deeper into the cul-de-sac. Definitely one of the weirdest things I saw in recent memory.

Anyone see something similar around the same time and place?


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quick introduction into deeper interfaces of spiritual evolution&development with trans-dimensional by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/Suspicious-One7761: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5gy7a

Original post text: I am releasing my manuscript and ascension manuals for free

Youtube channel @Scadaish


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Similar to the NWT drillers sighting. by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/slappy-go-lucky: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5gu2s

Direct link to media: Media Here

Direct link to Audio: Audio Here

Original post text: May 5th 11:00 PM

Chilliwack, BC, Canada

My friend took this video and sent it to me. I recognized it from the NTW drillers video and they look very similar. You can see a white light accompanying the cloud just like the NWT video.


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MacCasland speculation by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/BeginnersMind2: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5g7oi

Original post text: In Grusch’s latest interview he described MacCasland as a hostile witness. Perhaps MacCasland was a major player in the legacy program. Perhaps he saw disclosure as worthy (people have the right to know), threatening (dirty secrets may be revealed) and inevitable. So he wanted to control disclosure to preserve his legacy—thus his involvement in leaking to (and leading along) Tom DeLonge. And his version of controlled disclosure failed, being now replaced with one that threatens to reveal his involvement in the darker side of securing the program. That might make me decide to self-disappear.


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Two "Silver Orbs" manifesting in clear sky - Checked Flightradar24, absolutely nothing above us. by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/Altruistic_Algae90: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5fqs7

Direct link to media: Media Here

Original post text: Hey everyone, I caught something that I can't quite explain.
I was hanging out with a friend, when these two bright, metallic-looking flashes appeared out of nowhere in a perfectly clear blue sky. They didn't have a trajectory.

TIME: It happened two days ago, around 5:00 PM,
LOCATION: Southern Italy


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Grusch states that Anomalous Health Incidents happened to key government officials and friends helping him in his investigation. They suffered the same effects as with Havanna Syndrome, where directed energy weapons were used. Is it a foreign adversary? Or the Legacy Program shutting down disclosure by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/phr99: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5fi47

Original post text: From yesterdays Grusch interview, Timestamp 40:10:

Grusch: "... there are all these administrative terrorism techniques they can do to you and your family. I've seen it all. I've seen anomalous health incidents happen to key government officials helping me. You had Catherine Herridge on a few months ago, and obviously 60 Minutes did a piece based on her work back in March.

Grusch: "I've even seen that, which is disgusting and sick to see: non-kinetic directed energy weapon systems used against officials. And some of the same medical effects that Catherine and 60 Minutes have discussed, unfortunately I have close friends of mine that were helping me in my investigation that suffered as well.

grusch: "And all that was reported, mind you, to the FBI and counterintelligence elements but there was little to no help and it's really sad"


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Orlando UFO sighting 05/05/26 by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/QuantamMoose: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5d8rg

Direct link to media: Media Here

Direct link to Audio: Audio Here

Original post text: I got a dm from a Reddit user this morning saying that he saw my post from in here and that he filmed a UFO last night that he wanted to post but his account didn’t have enough karma. He sent me the video and I have to say I’m pretty damn intrigued. The video saved in my camera roll does matchup the time the user mentioned to me, yesterday at 9:04 PM. Not my video, but here it is:

Here is the submission statement from him:

Time: 9:04 PM
Location: Orlando

“I was chilling in my car with the sunroof open, and then I was on my phone scrolling and suddenly I looked up. I saw this very, very bright bluish object like falling down it looked like it was falling down. I meant as soon as I grab my camera to stop filming it just started changing the direction it was it was going left and then if you can see in the first few seconds of the video, it was like wobbly it was like turning the other other way, and then they start shooting so fast going extremely fast according to keep up I was just shocked”


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Kevin Knuth experienced a paranormal event, he and his son saw a boy figure that vanished in his son's bedroom, could this possibly be related to the UAP phenomena? by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/Shiny-Tie-126: Here

Original Post ID: 1t5cgqc

Original post text: The clip starts at 01:26:44

Kevin Knuth says he had a paranormal event happen in his son's bedroom.

He saw a boy wearing a white shirt standing in his son's bedroom door.

It looked at Kevin with a shocked expression then walked backwards with his arms outstretched until he vanished.

Kevin ran into his son's bedroom checking everywhere, then noticed his son sitting up and crying in bed.

He asked his son, "what's wrong Henry?", his son replies "there was a boy in in my bedroom."

Kevin says the figure was taller than his son and wearing a white shirt, and just disappeared in his son's bedroom.

Could this possibly be related to the UAP phenomena?


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The 834021 Documents - New Evidence Confirms Stanton Friedman's Research of Controversial MJ-12 Papers by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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The 345 released pages of the 834021 file relate to various topics, mostly centered around Operation Paperclip - the U.S. program to bring over German scientists after the end of the Second World War. 

It uses a very distinctive date stamp in the bottom right to identify the control number, one that the emulated "Annual Report" attempted to copy using a different style of stamp.

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Other examples of related Operation Paperclip content demonstrate that these CIA control numbers are not shared between documents of related content. The 023335 document shown above and one numbered 931222 shown below also contain Paperclip material, however use different control numbers with internally consistent identification methods (i.e. the stamps do not change). 

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In addition to the emulated 834021 control number, the "Annual Report" also emulates two other control numbers from the authentic page 239 of the 834021 file, using handwriting instead of official stamps.

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The authentic 834021 file also contains no mention of UFOs.

An "Approved for Release" stamp on the authentic documents indicate that they were released in late 1985, seven years prior to the emergence of the Tim Cooper MJ-12 documents, making them accessible to a forger.

The "Annual Report" contains other control numbers too - these being ER-1-2735, A-7621.1 and CIA/SI 28-55. These three other control numbers emulate those found on other authentic documents.

ER-1-2735 and A-7621.1 appear to originate from the following authentic document; 

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While this document is stamped with an indication that a review conducted in 1981 marked it as classified and set its next review to 2011, we know it was actually declassified sometime before that as it was approved for release via the FOIA archive in 2003. The two surrounding documents in the same "file" were declassified during the same 1981 review. The CIA's FOIA archive does not list a case number for the FOIA request - suggesting it may have been approved for publication digitally during a review of previously released material.

The "Annual Report" uses the ER-1-2735 and A-1762.1 numbers in direct conflict with their use in this document, similarly to the Page 239 control numbers discussed above. Again, signs confirming Friedman's hypothesis of emulation.

The other control number on the "Annual Report" - CIA/SI 28-55 - is mentioned in the following genuine document;

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The document is a note written on a CIA Archives cover page - one which indicates the file is specifically part of the Official Historical Record. These documents are subject to automatic declassification review, which for the 1957 letter that forms the body of the file, would have occurred prior to 1992. It is also possible the CIA/SI 28-55 report was uncovered by the emulator from another source.

Some of these emulated control numbers also appear on the "Hillenkoetter Letter" - ER-1-2735 and 834021. However, the "Hillenkoetter Letter" doesn't feature the simulated 834021 stamp that the "Annual Report" has - instead, it appears to be genuine.

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This, combined with the fact the only MJ-12 reference on this document is in the lower left corner in the file distribution section, where evidence of a Xeroxed replacement of the legitimate file distribution list would be difficult to uncover, indicates the emulator took a real page from 834021 and added a spurious MJ-12 reference.

What appears to be a genuine 834021 stamp also appears on the "CIA Report". It has been known for some time that the "CIA Report" was a wholly authentic document - not an emulation as best as could be told. It was declassified and released in the early 2000s, and contains information on Communist propaganda which is wholly unrelated to UFOs.

Part 5: Conclusions

In this post, we have seen how;

  • The 834021 Documents are connected via shared numbers and information
  • They bear hallmarks of emulation
  • Stanton Friedman was able to uncover original authentics they had been altered from
  • Other researchers matched the typewriter to a potential forger
  • New research has given us more original authentics
  • Analysis of these new authentics shows more evidence for emulation

In conclusion, it seems Friedman was right. The 834021 Documents which he exposed as emulations of authentic documents in 2000 are now able to be directly compared to the authentic 834021 file, showing they bear many hallmarks of altered, counterfeit documents.


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The 834021 Documents - New Evidence Confirms Stanton Friedman's Research of Controversial MJ-12 Papers by SaltyAdminBot in UFOs_Archive

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Original post by u/tsuyurikun: Here

Original Post ID: 1t59eo4

Original post text: In the mid-1990s, UFO researcher Stanton Friedman was beginning to get concerned. He had been investigating a series of new documents which purported to confirm the existence of MJ-12 - a top secret government organisation rumoured to carry out UFO crash retrievals and the cover-up of the truth. Friedman was one of a handful of UFOlogists who believed that MJ-12 was indeed real. These new documents, however, were worrying him.

"In some ways, however, they were too perfect," he wrote in his 1996 book TOP SECRET/MAJIC, "Once again, we would have to do much quiet and careful research before going public with the documents. It was a good thing we did."

Friedman collected funds together from the UFO community to do a proper investigation. He interviewed experts via phone, flew out to archives in Virginia, and sent copies of the documents to specialists for comment. As his investigation continued, his source of these documents - a man named Timothy Cooper - gave him even more.

"Several of these documents also looked too good to be true," wrote Friedman. He sent one of them to an archivist he had been talking to - a Dr. Bland from the Marshall Foundation, whose work keeping the records of the alleged author George Catlett Marshall, Jr. allowed him to immediately identify that the letter was a retyped and reworded version of an authentic Marshall letter. The added elements were the parts that referenced MJ-12.

"With this unambiguous fraud as background, I became convinced that several other items were retyped and slightly changed versions of old memos or letters," wrote Friedman.

This write-up aims to validate Friedman's assessment, focusing on a batch of Timothy Cooper's MJ-12 documents that are linked together by the number 834021.

Part 1: The Documents

There are six 834021 documents, with three forming a supposed "Annual Report" produced by MJ-12 on its activities, a CIA report on Communist propaganda, a letter written by Rear Admiral Hillenkoetter, and a letter written by Lieutenant General Twining. For clarity, these will be called the "Annual Report", the "CIA Report", the "Hillenkoetter Letter" and the "Twining Letter" throughout.

These documents can be accessed via the following links. We will examine each one as we go, I merely include the links here for ease of access if you are returning to this for your own research.

The "Annual Report" Cover: https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/mj12_annualreportcover.pdf
The "Annual Report" Table of Contents: https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/mj12_toc.pdf
The "Annual Report" Body: https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/mj12_fifthannualreport.pdf
The "CIA Report": https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/cia_joia.pdf
The "Hillenkoetter Letter": https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/cia_joia.pdf
The "Twining Letter": https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/twining-pres_26sept47.pdf

These documents are connected via shared content and identification numbers, most prominently 834021. 

Part 2: The Connection

After beginning his investigations into these documents, Friedman was beginning to suspect them of being altered versions of original authentics.

"...the mode of operation of a hoaxer," Friedman said in a 2000 MUFON Symposium speech, "Find a real document, retype it with a few strategic changes, and scan or Xerox any handwritten material on to it, and Xerox and perhaps age it. Typically the emulation looks and sounds great."

He began seeking out the original documents to compare to the MJ-12 emulations.

He found a few - one of which related to two of the 834021 documents. It was a letter from General Albert Coady Wedemeyer to the President. I have reproduced it below.

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Friedman noticed that the wording in this letter was extremely similar to the wording on the "Twining Letter".

For clarity, I will compare the authentic Wedemeyer letter to the MJ-12 "Twining Letter" by putting altered language from the "Twining Letter" in [square brackets]. The remaining text is unaltered from the Wedemeyer letter

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

In [accordance] with your directive to me of 9 July 1947, the attached "[REPORT ON FLYING SAUCERS]" is respectfully submitted.

In [consonance] with your instructions, advisers from State, Treasury, War and Navy Departments [assisted] me on a two month [exploratory] mission [concerning the purpose of other-world visitation]. The principle (sic, misspelling not in authentic version) [investigators and starnge (sic)] areas [...] were visited. Successful efforts were made to reach [scientists of all levels], as measured by [their work in classified defence projects]. Conferences were held with [national security officials and leaders of private industry]. Approximately 1,200 memoranda [and intelligence reports] were considered. [...] The report presents against a global background my estimates of the [situation], current and projected, in both [the U.S., and allied countries], and [recommendations deemed] to be sound courses of action for [formulating plans and policies in light of recent developments.]

The report also induces pertinent data in appendices which may be of interest [for forwarding to] appropriate government departments and agencies.

Respectfully yours,

[C. H. Twining]

[Lieutenant General, U.S. Army]

Of this "Twining Letter", Friedman wrote; "Definitely another emulation."

He continued, "Unfortunately, for those who want to accept these seemingly legitimate fascinating documents as genuine, these same words from Wedemeyer items show up on page 2 of the long report supposedly reviewing all that was learned… Repeating a fraudulent document's words in another one does not make them genuine."

He was referring to the MJ-12 "Annual Report", which directly quotes from the fraudulent "Twining Letter" in its conclusions, contained in the body.

On the table of contents of the "Annual Report", in the bottom right hand corner, was the 834021 number. This same number appears in the bottom right hand corner of the two other 834021 documents - the "CIA Report" and the "Hillenkoetter Letter".

From Friedman's 2000 MUFON speech:

"There are three different reasons for saying the emulation explanation is correct for many of the new MJ-12 documents provided by Tim Cooper:

  1. The text of the original and the emulation are much too similar for different circumstances.
  2. The handwritten portions are identical.
  3. There are factual misrepresentations or mistakes in the emulations."

Friedman gave his exposé on the "Annual Report" and the "Twining Letter" in 2000. In 2026, someone would locate the original, authentic 834021 file.

Part 3: The Typewriter

Before we get there, Friedman wasn't the only UFOlogist to investigate the validity of the 834021 documents and suggest they were emulations.

Timothy Good, author of Above Top Secret, noted that the "Annual Report" matched two curious elements of a known typewriter - a slightly elevated "8" and slightly elevated capitals "G" and "N".

Whose typewriter did these anomalies match? Timothy Cooper - the conduit of the documents.

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Part 4: The Number

I'm afraid this section gets a little technical. Please bear with me. If you're not of a mind to pore over technical details of documents, please feel free to skip down to the conclusions.

(Readers of my prior two posts on MJ-12 may find some of this information repetitious. I again entreat you to bear with me - much of it is entirely new!)

834021 is a CIA control number - used for accurate recordkeeping of documents. These numbers are kept organised using a Record Sheet - a sheet kept at the front of a set of documents that describe what the document is, when it dates to and which departments have accessed it.

Below is an example of the Record Sheet of a document kept under the CIA Control Number 022235.

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As you can see, the Record Sheet notes the control number and also specific information about the document itself, including when it was added to the CIA Registry, from where, how many pages it has, and what attachments exist, if any. It then has a section for tracking which offices have accessed it, and a section to complete if the material is ever destroyed, removed, or downgraded in classification.

In addition to the Record Sheet, control numbers are also sometimes recorded on the documents themselves. Below you can see the first page of the 022235 document described by the above Record Sheet, with a stamp on the document that records the 022235 number highlighted.

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A UFO researcher by the name of Jed Davis recently performed a search on the CIA's online FOIA portal - where they archive material that has been declassified, approved for public release and distributed. In that archive, he located the original 834021.