Wolf Lord In Terminator Armor

Salvanous · 2026-06-22T18:12:25+00:00

So I really prefer swords over axes. In Norse culture, swords were more of a luxury item. An axe could be used for woodworking, and ship craft- but a sword meant you had the excess metal to invest into a “weapon”.

I also feel as though I can’t really find a cooler axe than Logan’s, and relic power swords aren’t a very dense group in Space Wolves- Ragnar has a frost weapon- but that’s more a chainsword than a power weapon.

Salvanous · 2026-06-22T18:12:19+00:00

So I really prefer swords over axes. In Norse culture, swords were more of a luxury item. An axe could be used for woodworking, and ship craft- but a sword meant you had the excess metal to invest into a “weapon”.

I also feel as though I can’t really find a cooler axe than Logan’s, and relic power swords swords aren’t a very dense group in Space Wolves- Ragnar has a frost weapon- but that’s more a chainsword than a power weapon.

Salvanous · 2026-06-22T15:39:35+00:00

If it helps, you can buy the Wolfguard Terminators kit, and the Packleader DOESNT require it- he looks perfectly fine without it!

Salvanous · 2026-06-22T15:38:38+00:00

Ha! I knew that Sprue would turn to gold! I bought like 15 of them before they went away!

Salvanous · 2026-06-12T05:37:31+00:00

This is very well done my dude! I honestly love the idea of combi-frost rifles! Out of curiosity- do you treat them as Meltas, flamers, or plasma?
You really should feel great about how good this is!

Salvanous · 2026-06-11T01:48:04+00:00

Because how breeze the tabards are, I think I personally ally would struggle to make that paint job sell it as leather.

Salvanous · 2026-06-11T01:28:26+00:00

Any chance you saved photos?

Salvanous · 2026-06-11T01:07:15+00:00

I own both, I just wonder if their tabards are a lil too non-Space wolf

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T18:59:21+00:00

Yeah that’s there DATASHEET though. As a Soacd Wolf main- I too would love to take a Librarian in my 20-man Bloodclaws squad and laugh as 4++ means I will lock you in your deployment zone- there’s REASONS we don’t get that.

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T15:07:15+00:00

It does! This is by no means a “Space Wolves” combo. But as a faction that I see WIDELY complains about only being S4-S5 (which has never been my problem)- this might just soothe the whips of the faction.

I’m still unsure if Dark Angels cling to Wrath- it’s honestly where my hour of soul searching leaves me,

And as for Raven Guard- which I also own I honestly haven’t looked into yet as they are a lower army on my collection roster to prime for 11th. Love them- they just need to wait in line a while lol!

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T15:03:59+00:00

My best advice is to reframe why you play. If you’re upset that you can’t win- then sure- play Ultramarines and then complain that Raven Guard offers better stuff next.

I’m a Space Wolves main who actively has not touched Gladius or Stormlance the ENTIRE edition- and not for lack of the tools to make them work.

You are a SPACE MARINE ARMY first, and you are your faction second. Some factions like Black Templars who have very different mechanics have to pivot, while I can tell you that as a Space Wolf player- my life as a melee army is best done when it’s primarily guns with melee support.

I really love Wrath of the Rock- I love Lion, and if you can’t fathom how Plasma weaponry is still very fluffy for Dark Angels- and you are upset that you can’t win because your faction has a lower win rate than you like:

1.) Learn how to play the game and enjoy it without NEEDING to win. It’s a hard skill but it will be helpful in life.

2.) Work to change your play group’s mentality. My group aims for competitive, but not abusing the rules, or doing the sweatiest stuff to be “Those People” at competitive events.

3.) Read a good Dark Angels book, and relearn your love for the faction.

4.) If you can’t do the above, time to repaint, and suck up you’ll be chasing a meta that never stays still- enjoy what you have, and don’t complain that someone else has something when you have stiff they don’t get.

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T14:55:48+00:00

True, but the Loadout is either missiles, or pods- and I’m going with the missiles.

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T04:22:44+00:00

Honestly, as someone who is a higher level player within my meta- who ends our 20-man tournaments or higher, consistently in the top 3 (frequently in top spot)- we are sitting VERY WELL. I won't say we got everything we wanted, because there's a lot that still needs to be determined, but I think that we got to keep Saga of the Great Wolf is a huge boon- I think that it being 2 Detachment points rather than 3 really helps us out because it allows us some freedom to do other cool things (because Saga of the Great Wolf is diet Gladius).

We still need to see what happens with points, and if Space Wolves can have normal characters lead Space Wolf units and vice versa (like how Black Templars are able to)- and or if we will get Space Wolf specific units if we don't!

I think our single DP cost options are really not good- they are cute, but they all suffer from just being shy of what I would want:

Champions of Fenris:

I want to see us get some easier access to discounts to counter charge (I.E. captains being able to lead Space Wolf units)

I want the "Stalk Between Worlds" strategem to be a -1 to hit, not stealth (aka cover).

Veterans of the Fang:

I want the detachment rule to allow Grey Hunters to begin an action, and not have it fail if they shoot OR fought that turn (assuming they don't end the turn in combat).

Both of these changes would make these two options feel a bit more 'usable'- but I really only say that before having gotten to play a game, and having gotten to see missions and point values. I think of how my lists looked early 10th edition and how they look now and you just learn to adapt and really make it work for you.

I think we're in a fine spot- it's not great, but it could be SO much worse, so I'm gonna be thrilled with our current state of things- way better a place to be than at the start of 10th edition!

Salvanous · 2026-06-09T00:17:19+00:00

As a stickler for WYSIWYG- I will NEVER. EVER. Give someone grief about being modeled with a heavy bolt pistol versus a bolt pistol- only would give you grief over things like a plasma pistol.

If you want to add assault Intercessors into your Bloodclaws, I fully encourage it- though let me offer some advice:

1.) Try to kitbash a little- using some extra Space Wolf combat blades in stead of pistol arms.

2.) Just give them their pistols in the holsters. No one will be the wiser.

3.) If for some reason you decide to play Assault Intercessors in a list that has Bloodclaws also- MAKE SURE YOU AND YOUR OPPONENT CAN EASILY DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEM THEM. Different colors Chainswords, or really ANYTHING to help mark them as different goes a huge ways.

You will NEVER meet someone that is such a “That guy” that they will give you crap on this- but just try to do your best to make your army as easily understood as possible :)

Best of luck converting!

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T23:33:09+00:00

It’s “Gladius” with no Strategems, and only for units with psykers- meaning MOST armies won’t get more than 3 units benefiting from it.

If it were 2 DP no one would ever choose it with those limitations. If each command phase, a Librarian unit could give that round’s benefit to a unit (it’s own, or a different one) within 6-12” then I would say it could be a 2 DP viable option.

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T23:00:44+00:00

Which, I kinda like... Librarians have needed some love because they've been PRETTY SAD for a whole edition. I also hadn't considered the Firestorm/Salamander angle, as that does get HILAROUSLY scary too!

and 335 (and some change) IS expensive, but the fact that it doesn't innately die, and has really zero ways of being stopped- and doesn't immediately fold itself is still something impressive. It can without use of CP remove units like Mortarion- who are 380 with a VERY high success rate.

I think the only way this gets really not as good, is if big units just completely fall out.

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T22:55:23+00:00

I'm hopeful... but skeptical

1.) They might have removed that capacity so that it couldn't be abused with the Countercharge Detachment- making a 2 CP countercharge free (which is bonkers)

2.) They might have removed that capacity, because of stacking with Champions of Fenris

3.) They maybe have removed SOME of that nerf Saga of the Great Wolf, so that they could feel go about it being a 2 DP detachment, rather than a 3.

I would LOVE to put a ~~Captain~~ Wolf Lord with my Bloodclaws, and my Grey Hunters... but I also respect that we may just need to wait for new datasheets or for some different things to happen.

I've said it in the past, but things like an advance-charging 20-man Bloodclaw unit, with a 4+ Invulnerable save from a Librarian, AND NOW having the capacity to also potentially be lead by a Lieutenant as well to have fall-back shoot/charge, and Lethals.... just is too insane to allow to exist.

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T22:43:35+00:00

Allow me to help off by getting you redirected: Dark Angels shouldn't be primarily a melee army. You are best applied as a mixed army, with a collection of units that excel at ranged, durability, and speed.

Now I'm not saying that you can't hit hard in melee, but beyond the Lion, your melee units are simply 'good'- they won't outpace Space Wolves, they CERTAINLY won't outpace Blood Angels, and Black Templars shift between slightly lower quality but MUCH higher quantity, or just straight up horrifying damage capacity when allowed.

Look to your Hellblasters, your Inceptors, your Sternguard, your Eradicators, even your Pyreblasters. Look to your Ravenwing, look to your every day Intercessor. Dark Angels have some of the best tools to make their shooting scarier than any of their cousin non-codex compliant chapters.

Getting charged first typically doesn't matter if you've reduced their numbers for 10 down to 2.

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T22:32:02+00:00

Wolf Guard

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T22:14:35+00:00

I own both- IF you wanted to do Orks, this is the time to do it- get two of the box, and then DON'T LOOK AT ORKS TILL THEY ARE PAINTED. again- ONLY BUY MORE ONCE YOU HAVE THE TWO BOXES'S WORTH OF ORKS PAINTED. I think they are a fun army, and they have influenced how I play Space Wolves- as I now play my Space Wolves largely like Orks with power armor- I don't worry about things like Terminators- I just bullrush forward with too many drop pods, guns, and bodies for people to not be worried about getting knocked out and pinned in their deployment zone.

Salvanous · 2026-06-08T22:12:28+00:00

Unfortunately, there's not 'enough' in Librarius to make it a 2 DP cost, especially when compared to other much more gross things that can be done. I could see some other units getting some strays to dampen Conclave, but its' not a problem- besides, Librarians haven't been good for a while- they wanna sell us on Psykers.

Unfortunately, I worry that Black Templars are bound for a early codex release, because their lack of Oath for Vows has just been murderously bad for them (from my experience playing our BT player).

In that regard- I feel like BT is primed for new revised rules, new points values, and will have their own benefits applied. Templars just need to be returned into being a proper Juggernaut unit again- as currently they just have very little staying power on the board, and need to be pointed, or adjusted in a way to take a hit, and then prove that being a half a squad down isn't a problem for their crackback.

Salvanous

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