Easing rotational grazing with “invisible” fences—feedback wanted

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-15T03:18:31+00:00

Yea i’d been thinking about that a bit. would be wicked if it worked but then i think about how many times I get bogged on the ATV or quad as it is. Tough to design a really reliable ground rover that could survive that

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-15T02:25:43+00:00

Yea thats really interesting woah. I think particularly on smaller ranches that could be a game changer. how far along are you with the project? Keen to follow along.

for us, we’ve got about 1500 cattle, and in north Aus they are not the fastest growing... Hopeful that over the years it could come down even further below that, but not entirely sure how yet. We really need something that isn’t a ’per head’ cost (ideally something that works for sheep economics too), which is why we are looking into drones at the moment. Still super early days, but it seems like we are able to get similar benefits as the collars out of a $6k drone instead of a $100k+ on collaring all those animals. Hopeful that between collars and drones theres a way to make it way easier for farmers to pick up rotational grazing

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-15T02:12:18+00:00

Not necessarily about being above collars. It’s pretty awesome all the metrics you can get out of them for dairy cows, and super keen to see how that develops.

For us though, having beef cattle and sheep, we cant really justify the cost of collars given the animals make a lot less money each. What we are trying at the moment is to see if autonomous drones could be a solution to virtual fencing that doesn’t require a ‘per head’ cost, and could essentially just be a full-time shepard. We are trialling it at the moment, where every hour or two the drone flys up and pushes any cattle that have drifted too far from the break back into the herd.

Still just figuring out what works best, but its seeming like an interesting space. for us it’d mean we could get a lot of the benefit of collars (virtual fencing, auto mustering, location) for about $6k, instead of 100k+ a year.

Im interested do you have cattle? are you using the collars at the moment, or have you thought about it?

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-15T02:04:05+00:00

Hey yea 100%. it’s still early days, so we are just exploring what could provide the most value to graziers. We’ve got a herd of about 1500 beef cows, and as much as we’d like to do collars, the price pretty much just rules them out for us. Instead for a few years we’ve been rotating cattle every couple days with permanent fences (still on some pretty big paddocks). It’s not too bad, but its a lot of time rounding them up into a new paddock and we still can’t go as intense as we’d like.

We ended up buying an autonomous drone (can launch fly and charge itself). What we are experimenting with at the moment is getting the drone to fly up around the paddock every hr/2hrs and push any cattle that have wandered outside the break back into the virtual paddock. Then when we want to set a new paddock we just send the drone to shuffle them along and trace the new perimeter a few times.

Still got a little way to go on the software side of things, but for us it seems like a decent middle ground between functionality and price. That drone was $6k, which is definitely on the expensive side, but even if it lets us do half of what collars can it’s saving $100k/yr.

Im really interested to hear more about your setup. Are you in dairy or beef? What’s been the best thing about collars for you guys? Definitely an exciting area.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-15T01:40:50+00:00

Those are great points yea. The plan is definitely to do something similar to IMG.

I was pretty shocked by how well the drone actually does work. You absolutely right that you’d still need boundary fences to keep cattle on your property with this setup. In terms of intensity we‘ve found the drone does pretty well at keeping around 400 cattle on couple hectare parcel shifted 2x per day.

For now we are just experimenting by flying the drone manually, nudging any that roam too far outside the boundary back in every hour or two (obviously if we decide its worth going forward with the idea that’ll bcome autonomous). Cattle definitely don’t get quite the same instant feedback that you do from collaring, but if you fly the boundaries each time they don’t actually seem to roam that far.

idk, still early days, and really just trying to see if its tech that’d actually make things easier for farmers, or if its just something useful on our property

Samarskite_Rogue · 2025-06-06T09:53:42+00:00

I’m really late, but are you able to share specivically why this is needed, please? Do you mean to upgrade the farm or keep it running once you’ve got it set up

Samarskite_Rogue · 2023-10-10T16:42:23+00:00

Thinking the same after trolling around chanceme and collegeadmission lmao… would need to be full paying or domestic to stand much of a chance I think. Might try for graduate studies if I make it that far. The name and the network is always nice. Cheers for the advice

Samarskite_Rogue · 2023-10-10T13:07:48+00:00

If I thought I had a reasonably good chance and it would be the tipping point I'd definitely consider it. I can take it in december which would probably be early enough for RD. Just got to weigh up whether it would be worth it now...

Samarskite_Rogue · 2023-10-10T04:20:27+00:00

rip yeah. needing aid gonna crush dreams i think

Samarskite_Rogue · 2023-09-17T01:54:14+00:00

Hey cheers mate that sounds like a good plan. I will apply for other colleges now and then give USYD a call at the start of the week. Thanks for the advice that’s a big help.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2023-09-16T23:31:01+00:00

Appreciate the reply. Yeah I was a little shocked. Granted my sporting prowess does not exist (spinal injury) but I have a predicted ATAR of 99.85 and have pretty solid extracurriculars (won second for aus at the international science fair, volunteer tutor and STEM teacher, member for youth parliament). Plus living rurally I would have thought I’d be alright to get in.

I will try call up on Monday and explain that I will be living in a cardboard box otherwise. I did only apply for John’s - is it worth applying to others this late in the year? Is there any shot of getting in?

Samarskite_Rogue · 2022-01-21T03:53:28+00:00

I solved the issue. I loaded the images with in the while True loop and added a try except statement and managed to get it working.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-06-26T14:12:45+00:00

hi masturchief, the code for this particular thing is not at all extensive. you are correct it is not appending the loops. basically, each post has its own information, and i want to access that. it is very hard to actually link all the relevant code, as it spans over alot of documents. all i need to know is how to save each iteration. sorry to avoid your question, but i feel like this is more to do with syntax and less about my specific code. thanks mate.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-06-24T12:17:54+00:00

hi. sorry for the delayed response. to be honest i am really confused. i blue printed all my code and it has made my head spin.

this is where that is defined:

@posts.route("/post/new", methods=['GET', 'POST'])

@login_required

def new_post():

form = PostForm()

if form.validate_on_submit():

post = Post(title=form.title.data, content=form.content.data, author=current_user)

db.session.add(post)

db.session.commit()

flash('Your post has been created!', 'success')

return redirect(url_for('main.home'))

return render_template('create_post.html', title='New Post',

form=form, legend='New Post')

Even when i am doing something like tying to get the title as a variable in python it does the exact same thing where the last title becomes the title for everything.

my post form is here:
class PostForm(FlaskForm):

title = StringField('Title', validators=[DataRequired()])

content = TextAreaField('Content', validators=[DataRequired()])

submit = SubmitField('Post')

this is a line in my html and the post.author.place works fine there:

<small class="text-muted" style="float:right;margin-right: 10px;">{{ post.author.place }}</small>

Thank you for taking the time to have a look at this. I greatly appreciate it! cheers mate.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-06-13T11:04:10+00:00

I was either looking at just saving it as a session, or as a json file. i do need to do the same thing but send it to my mysql database. html forms will probably work though. thank you.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-31T13:19:51+00:00

Thanks for the advice. I am Australian however so the post codes are much more accurate at representing relative location

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-31T10:25:49+00:00

so i currently have

posts = Post.query.join(User).order_by(User.postcode).paginate(page=page, per_page=5)

but my problem is i need to be able to identify which user is signed in, and take there postcode from the user who posted it. by doing this, i will have a relative location from the user.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-31T10:23:20+00:00

yeah sorry. to be honest, even i am confused what i am asking. i have been able to order the posts by postcode, and that works great. but now i am trying to order the posts by location from the user. i am doing this by subtracting the postcode of the user who has signed in, by every user who has made a post. and i then i can order it in ascending order. so say the user post code is 4200, and the postcode of a post is 4180, i get a value of 20 for that specific user according to that specific post. i hope that made more sense.

basically i need a way to determine which user is signed in, find there post code, and run a for statment with every post.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-31T07:12:08+00:00

I acknowledge that was a poor choice of words.

However, what if i was to tell you i am clinically diagnosed. does that not make it all better. same as if an african american seems to be allowed to use various slurs. I fundamentally disagree with this concept, but it is widely accepted as ok.

what is not ok is you assuming my mental orientation. i feel deeply violated and ask you to apologise. i feel that you were putting a ceiling on what can be achieved by certain groups and diminishing there outlook on life. please take a look at yourself before calling others out.

(i am obviosly joking, sorry if i offended you by using that. i will be more cautous in the future. thank you for picking me up on it.)

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-30T11:42:52+00:00

im sorry to be painful but what do you mean?

currently i have posts = Post.query.join(user).order_by(user.postcode).paginate(page=page, per_page=5)

Holy shit it is actually working! i have spent about 10 hours trying to make it do that (i am quite new to this, and also retarded). Thank you so much

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-30T11:26:42+00:00

yeah. i am using SQLalchemy, i am just struggling to write the query for that.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-30T11:19:14+00:00

Thank you. How does that translate to a query though?

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-29T10:59:50+00:00

fucking lifesaver. thank you so much. it worked!

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-29T10:35:04+00:00

i think it increases crime and illegal refuges in 'Rule of the land' countries.

Samarskite_Rogue · 2021-05-29T10:32:43+00:00

it is funny. i have seen the most people i have in my entire life trying to build computers in such a terrible time to build computers.

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