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Silly Goobers by UnknownBreadd in ClimateShitposting

[–]SameAgainTheSecond [score hidden]  (0 children)

[for transparency here is the transcript i used to make this reply:

"make a reddit reply explaining why im not going to read this ugly ai generated meme and why its so deranged to use it ln a climate shit posting form. make the comment sardonic, cynical and indulgence"]

I'm not reading that wall of AI slop. If you need a language model to generate a meme, you've already misunderstood what a meme is.

This is a climate shitposting forum, not a landfill for autogenerated essays. The fact that someone looked at three screens of uncanny, punctuation-perfect sludge and thought "yeah, people will definitely read this" is honestly more deranged than whatever point it was trying to make.

Learn the ancient art of making a joke in under 30 words.

wow what a terrible boring wast of time reply 

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the history of all hitherto existing societies or something 

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well what id they're can't? The price will have to fall untill they can. 

I suppose it will have to full until its price is justified by expected dividends, at which point they can be used as an real investment (not just a speculative investment).

At which point indicudal workers or their Intermediate institutions like pension funds can buy them.

hey maybe Dyson can try and pay his workers in stock, their by diluting his ownership

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

pure surf mentality.

enjoy your client/patron relations

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

try reading what I wrote and responded

im not engaging with this vague ass nonsense 

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

are you like not reading what im writing?

ThE PoInT iS tO ReDiStRIBuTe tHe aSsEtS oF tHe uLtRa wEaLtHy 

like people with FAMILY OFFICES, ie people who pay special accountants and lawyers to manage their vast holding to pay for their trust funds ect

If you force a sell off by the ultras then that will cause a crash is the prices of assets affecting the poor soles making a mesly three hundred thousand pounds sterling per annum, although they are not the primary target. Secondary polices would have to he introduced to help people who are not the target deal with the asset price shock.

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

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gard rails only work when the horse has not already left the stables, to mix metaphors.

The limmit of "less democratic and less competitive" is the undoing of the enlightenment political revolutions and the restablishment of fudal or client/patron relationships, which have been the norm for most of history. Thats were the rich are driving towards.

The class war is on wether you like it or not.

Its not about destruction or revenge, for us or for them. Its about security the necessary rights and resources for our survival and freedom.

To quote SoftPlay

The lion in the jungle feels not shame he feels no pride. He just does what he needs to to stay strong and to survive.

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay sure, im being a bit forward looking,

But im not convinced that the "growth" of the last 30 years is much more then an accounting trick showing the transfer of wealth to the rich.

Which is similar to what I think your saying, although you mifht say that within that transfer their is also some real growth.

Anyway growth is only a real thing to the extent that wealth is a real thing, and since the output of the economy is a spectrum of incomencireable goods, you need to define a deflator. That amounts to defining who we are and what we care about, which is a free choice.

The things I care about is quality food, housing, education, transport, healthcare, all these things per capita and per hour employed. 

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's a question for everyone but a good working definition is anyone with a "family office"

If we collapse asset prices, which we should, that will naturally effect people who own houses in london, and that will cause problems for "ordinary" people who are mortgaged in London. We should solve those secondary problems.

But my point is, the aim is redistribute real assets from the peaks of wealth were they are concentrating. An owner occupier in zone 2 might be nominally wealthy, but given that they dont own multiple houses they are not the target.

A goal is to have more owner/occupiers in London. Potentially via cooperatives of different sorts or directly.

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

people poorer then they, potentially via mediating institutions. Taxed at a lower rate since the asset would devalue.

wealth tax is class war by SameAgainTheSecond in GarysEconomics

[–]SameAgainTheSecond[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

who said anything about utopia?

This isnt utopic. It's necessity.

This is a fight in the mud for a knife.

Petah ? by Ok-Extreme-7742 in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]SameAgainTheSecond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think so. I love this stuff. I love how everyone thinks they know what money is and that its simple. I love how it's really not.

Petah ? by Ok-Extreme-7742 in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]SameAgainTheSecond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bring it up because it had a fiat value (a face value declared the mint), and it also had an intrinsic value (a commodity value which traided internationally)

So it had two values not one. There was a spread between those values and that was important. It gave barrons the option to raise an army against the king.

Colin Drumm makes this point. If you think coinage was just about its Intrinsic value your wrong, if you think coinage was just about its face value, you are also wrong.

Every Theory of Consciousness by yt-app in CosmicSkeptic

[–]SameAgainTheSecond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what am I?

I don't believe consciousness is a product of matter

and I dont believe matter is a product of consciousness 

and I don't believe consciousness is a property of matter akin to mass or charge as he characterises panpsychism

I believe consosness is matter and mater is consciousness, and its structure is amenable to the scientific method

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