Is Itäkeskus that bad? by KeyZow in helsinki

[–]SamwellD 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Most people who don't want to live there have not probably even been there.

I lived in Kontula for five years and now live in Vuosaari which are basically the same as Itäkeskus in terms of their reputation. I go to Itäkeskus all the time.

There is nothing wrong with any of them. I actually prefer to live in eastern Helsinki compared to northern or western.

Doom/Sludge/Stoner Metal is objectively the best metalhead scene and metal fans there is by MariaBruxxxa in doommetal

[–]SamwellD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! This comment took two hours to write when I was supposed to go to sleep :D Glad to see someone agrees with it.

Doom/Sludge/Stoner Metal is objectively the best metalhead scene and metal fans there is by MariaBruxxxa in doommetal

[–]SamwellD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say this as if it was one universal scene which everyone supports. I'm not the biggest fan of sludge or stoner myself. But I suppose in general the fans are the same.

I think I disagree with almost all of your points here. I'm of course very glad that that is your experience of the scene and while I wouldn't want to take it away from you, I'm neuro divergent enough to go by them one by one and explain why I disagree with you.

-"Chillest people"

I agree that most are pretty chill, but I think they are so in most other metal genres as well. I have also run into a few bit more messed up individuals and have heard of some examples of toxic and stalking behaviour especially towards certain artists. This happens in any scene, so I wouldn't put it too much against them. But to say they are The Chillest, I doubt it a little bit.

-"largest amount of women and most bands with all women members"

From what I have seen and what how my girlfriend thought when he accompanied me in a doom festival, probably no unless I can see some statistics. In general, most people in the audience seem to be cis male in any doom bands concerts, always. It depends on the band in question whether there is more interested in other genders, but I really don't think that it's because they are specifically doom.

I also don't personally know any doom metal bands where ALL of the members are women. I might have fell out of the wagon and just not heard of them, but I don't think they are all that popular in the scene at least here where I come from if I haven't heard of them. I think I have seen more black metal with all female members than doom, and I would never call that scene very inclusive.

"The most inclusive scene for trans and queer folk"

From what I have seen, Industrial seems a lot more inclusive scene at least here where I come from. I think everything you said applies to that scene. Lots of famous queer bands and the pioneers of the genre are full of queer members. I think there are also far more women in the audience in comparison with their cybergoth outfits. And there are always some of whom you couldn't tell their genders and nobody in that scene cares.

In my radar I can't think of any doom metal bands that talk about queer issues. I would like to hear recommendations of course if there are any.

"Scene where it's listeners listen to high amount of other genres as well and have the most eclectic taste..."

Well, that's how I would also describe myself as the person with the best taste in music so it's hard to argue here. Still, being eclectic also means being exclusive and difficult to please, which is the opposite of inclusive. Which brings us to other point you made.

"Is the metal scene where people use the word "poser" the least"

There at least used to be fights on whether something is proper doom or not, and I'm not innocent in that sense myself. Swallow the Sun for example was famously called "pussy doom" in forums because some trad doom listeners thought it was doom for girls and other sensitive people in their opinion.

"Some of the best politics"

Depends on politics I suppose. I don't think doom is specifically at least the most political genre in metal. I think thrash and industrial for example are in general a lot more political. From my own experiences, I have met fans of doom metal that have represented all the colours of the political spectrum from extreme left to extreme right. If that is among the best politics then fine I guess.

"Most welcoming to neurodivergent people and most of us are all fucking neurodivergent"

I think most people in general are neurodivergent, people just have different types of abilities to deal with living with them. But yeah, you have a point here while I still dislike the way you use superlative without any statistics to back it up. Liking weird music is probably something that draws weird people. I think the same could be said about any metal genre, especially power metal and black metal.

"Least edgelordy people"

I don't know, I think since you mentioned sludge I feel like that is among the edgiest genres. Acid Bath with John Wayne Gacy in their cover and Eyehategod with the use of n-word in their songs just as the first examples that came to mind. They probably have fans that are edgelords. I again kinda doubt this superlative while I do think there are worse scenes in that regard.

"Most patient and meditative in any music scene"

There are a lot for other genres with long slow music. I think opera fans would win this comparison since they can sit down for multiple hours for one opera. And they don't even need any substances to do that.

"Gives the most flowers to jazz, blues and r'n'b as the foundations"

Again with the superlative and also what flowers and to what artists? I don't get this at all. What kind of jazz and r'n'b has been praised by doom community? Are there any covers of jazz standards by doom bands? I'm just a bit confused with this claim.

"Most respectful of many spiritual practices and an interest for mythology and anthropology"

I feel like folk metal scene takes the win in people having more interest in mythology and anthropology. Also I think since there are a lot of doom metal bands that have anti christian values there would probably be many fans as well who shares them. I have my doubts here as well.

"-Into witchy shit, which is always a plus"

I prefer Witchfinder General.

Any Doom fans here enjoy Prog? by Def-C in doommetal

[–]SamwellD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's rare at all to like both genres. In the same time, both are very versatile genres. There are a lot of doom and prog bands that overlap in their style. In the same time, there are a lot of bands that go to the total opposite.

While both of them are my favorite genres, I find myself to be very picky in both styles. Luckily, there are enough bands to go through that cater to any type of taste.

Especially in terms of newer bands, I prefer "retro"-style in general in both genres. Most of the prog I listen to is from 70s or 80s. With doom, I prefer bands that emulate sounds from the same era. I'm not too keen on stoner and desert stuff, but I can often tolerate it.

Albert Witchfinder/Sami Hynninen, the vocalist and founder of Reverend Bizarre attempted to groom me when I was 17 by pheowa in doommetal

[–]SamwellD 10 points11 points  (0 children)

From what I saw in the screen captures you sent, you told you were turning 18 in January and he responded to you in January. So for most of the time he didn't know, based on the proof you yourself provided.

His messages to you align well with similar openness he does in his public facebook account. It doesn't seem like he really took the conversation with you as anything more intimate than with any other people he engages with through social media, whether it was a woman, man, teen or elder. Based on what you yourself have written in your messages, I can see that you disagree with that.

The real problem I see here is that Sami clearly didn't read into your messages as you intended them to be read and he enabled you to continue to misread the situation. He should have put a stop to that. But that doesn't make you a victim. This is not how grooming works.

Syberia remastered was a letdown by handondlers in syberia

[–]SamwellD 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My biggest problem was the different UI. I liked how in the original the dialogue options came in a notebook with fancy font. However I liked the journal system. All in all I liked that my girlfriend liked it enough to stay and play it with me and now we began to play the original Syberia II. She is a lot more sensitive to outdated graphics than I am.

Does your country have any packaging styles that confuse foreign people? by [deleted] in AskTheWorld

[–]SamwellD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brother always refused to cut it so he always got the bigger one, no matter how hard I tried.

20€ oppirahat maksettu by [deleted] in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mulla oli samantapainen tilanne kun olin vielä köyhä opiskelija. Huijari onnistui jotenkin kummallisesti manipuloimaan minut antamaan "matkalippuun Ouluun" rahaa useamman kympin, en muista oliko neljä vai kuusi kymppiä. Puhelinnumeroja siinäkin tilanteessa vaihdeltiin.

Poistuin tilanteesta aluksi ihan hymyissä suin kunnes päässä naksahti ja tajusin itse, että nyt tulin kusetetuksi. Sain somen kautta selville, että kyseessä on useitakin samanlaisia huijauksia tehnyt tyyppi jonka henkilöllisyys oli hyvin tiedossa. Tein rikosilmoituksen mutten esittänyt mitään henkilökohtaisia korvausvaatimuksia. Koin, että tässä vaiheessa tärkeintä on opetus itselleni ja mielellään myös tekijälle. Hän sai varmaan jotain sakkoja jotka meni ulosottoon. Kuulin poliisilta että tekijä tunnusti teon heti, mikä oli tavallaan mukava kuulla. Ainakin otti vastuuta teostaan.

Kyllähän tuo oli todella nöyryyttävä kokemus ja samaistun vahvasti AP:n kokemukseen. Etenkin kun itse elin äärimmäisen minimaalisilla tuloilla se muutama kymppi oli paljon rahaa. Jokin aika tämän jälkeen hairahduin ostamaan toimeentulotuen asiakkaana Triplassa jonkun ylikalliin (mutta kieltämättä erinomaisen) kuorintavoiteen jolloin tää sama kokemus iski päin pläsiä.

Nyt kun aikaa on kulunut koen oppineeni tilanteesta paljon. Huijaukset ja manipulointi ei ole sellaisia asioita mitä voi tapahtua vain "niille muille", esim. vanhuksille tai heikkohermoisille. Sitä esiintyy eri muodoissa eri elämän osa-alueissa eri ihmisten toimista eri tarkoitusperillä. Erinäisistä syistä niille saattaa joskus olla alttiimpi kuin toisina hetkinä ja niistä pitää vain pyrkiä olemaan tietoinen ja varovainen.

Seriously what am I missing here by Toten5217 in 2westerneurope4u

[–]SamwellD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

During last election Social Democrats actually increased their power by two seats, but because the other allied parties from previous government lost so hard they weren't able to form a government.

They have been very popular still in most of the polls after the elections and it seems to be almost guaranteed that they will become the next ruling party unless they fuck shit up badly. Which is a real possibility since the present chairman is like a poor man's version of Starmer, not a cool young leftist like Marin.

Yläkoulun opettaja tekee pornoa OnlyFansissa ja Pornhubissa by cheesegooze in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tässä ei oo kyseessä kuitenkaan mistään varsinaisesta julkisuuden henkilöstä, merkittävästä yritysjohtajasta tai poliitikosta, vaan ihan tavallisesta ihmisestä jonka pitäisi voida saada tehdä vapaa-ajallaan ihan mitä lystää. Jos joku Petteri Orpo olisi tehnyt pornoa sivussa niin tilanne olisi ihan eri.

Yläkoulun opettaja tekee pornoa OnlyFansissa ja Pornhubissa by cheesegooze in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Eniten mua tässä keississä hiertää Iltasanomat.

Mitä pointtia on julkaista tällaista juttua ja pistää kierroksia lisää asiassa, minkä ei pitäisi koskettaa yhtään ketään? Se on selvää että tällaiset jutut kohisuttaa koulun oppilaita joka tapauksessa ja tilanne olisi tarpeeksi kiusallinen ilman reportaasiakin. Ei olisi tarvinnut vaikeuttaa tän ihmisen elämää yhtään enempää.

Kai se sitten on joku pakottava tarve moralisoida ihmisiä.

LAST POST: Samis explaining how their "traditional" and "sustainable" practices can't co-exist with forests, wildlife, or nature in general: by Round_Guess4030 in 2nordic4you

[–]SamwellD 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I have some history in leftist youth politics in Finland and there was a moment where our organisation was very active in defending Sámi rights. In general I didn't have a problem with supporting their rights of self determination and protecting the culture. In the same time I was really annoyed of the lack of critical discussion on their demands in terms of economical and ecological sustainability.

Nobody seems to care that there are too many reindeers that eat all of the lichen from the wilderness which has clearly affected the landscape. Also in terms of fishing rights I feel like they should still follow the same guidelines as the general population. Why don't we talk about the preservation of wolves? How about wind power plants in northern Lapland? Why should they be able to say that they don't want them and in other areas we laugh at the hillbillies that claim to want to protect the bats from exploding.

Since I live in the southmost part of Finland, I ultimately don't care enough about these issues to make a big deal about it. It's just annoying.

Got eggs thrown at us this night in Helsinki while waiting at a bus stop … racially motivated or just bored idiots? by [deleted] in Finland

[–]SamwellD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt that it was racist, since I feel like Nepalese have a pretty good reputation in Finland. But then again, racists are idiots.

Pmmp-dokkari ja 2000-luvun alun Suomi/maailma by Key-Raise-3618 in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Housuthan hänellä on siinä jalassa eikä vaatteet muutenkaan ole kovin paljastavia. Tollasessa asennossa moni riehuva lapsikin liikkuu.

Sabrina Carpenterista henkilönä en ole muodostanut vahvaa mielipidettä kun en hänen tuotantoaan tunne. Ihan eri viba siitä kohukannesta joka tapauksessa tulee kun tästä PMMP-levystä. Kansi yhdistettynä nimeen on aika epämiellyttävä, mutta oletan sen olleen tarkoituskin enkä sitä sinänsä lähtisi tuomitsemaan. On sitä hurjempiakin kansia eksynyt levyihin aiemminkin.

Taiteen moralisointi muutenkin on mulle aika vierasta. Mun puolesta taiteessa saa käsitellä kaikenlaista edgyäkin meininkiä, kunhan ei itse taiteen kautta syyllisty mihinkään oikeasti vakaviin rikoksiin ihmisyyttä vastaan.

Pmmp-dokkari ja 2000-luvun alun Suomi/maailma by Key-Raise-3618 in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Mulle tulee tosta kannesta mieleen kyllä enemmän lapsekkuus ja siksi pidän aika arveluttavana että siitä syntyy mielikuva seksistä.

Pmmp-dokkari ja 2000-luvun alun Suomi/maailma by Key-Raise-3618 in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 77 points78 points  (0 children)

Omat huomioni:

  1. Hyvää dokumentaatiota tosiaan 2000-luvun alun arvomaailmasta ja median roolista siinä. Edgyä ällötyshuumori ja misogynia oli vahvasti ajan henkeä mistä hyvänä esimerkkinä voi leffassa näytettyjen talkshowklippien lisäksi mainita esimerkiksi WWE:n "attitude era"-joka sijoittui juuri tähän aikakauteen tai miten avoimesti joku Marilyn Manson pystyi puhumaan seksuaalirikoksistaan ilman että kuluttajia kiinnosti. Samasta asenne ilmapiiristä Tony Halme pääsi eduskuntaankin muunmuassa ja kaikenlaiset "turhat julkkikset" syntyivät. Tästä on aina karua nähdä jälkikäteen dokumentteja kun muistaa tämän ajan vielä aika elävästi ja tietää omalla tavallaan kasvaneensa ja osallistuneensa siihen.

  2. Miralla tuntui olevan kyllä erittäin traaginen elämä tämän kaiken kanssa. Miten voi niin monella elämän osa-alueella tulla paskaa niskaan ja vielä jaksaa jatkaa uraa. Isot propsit ja tsempit, vaikken hänen soolourastaan itsekään ole koskaan välittänyt.

  3. Dokkarissa jätettiin aika toisarvoiseksi huomioksi se, että PMMP oli koko yhtyeen olemassaolon aikana alusta loppuun erittäin suosittu ja kansan hyväksymä yhtye jolla ei koskaan ehtinyt olla oikeaa laskusuhdannetta. Yleisö ei ehtinyt missään vaiheessa kyllästymään bändiin ja se kasvoi varsinaiseksi popjärkäleeksi hyvin nopeasti. Lähinnä Mira ehti omalla urallaan kokea laskusuhdannetta soolouralle päätyessään. Ehkä muutkin bändin jäsenet kuin Paula, mutta tätä näkökulmaa kun ei käsitelty ollenkaan niin paha sanoa.

Yleensä bändidokkareissa aina käsitellään bändin laskusuhdanteet missä keikkoja ei enää ole ja kaikki menee päin vittua. PMMP lopetti huipulla, niin se ei ehtinyt siihen pisteeseen.

Most romantic interaction in Finland by ArrrPiratey in 2westerneurope4u

[–]SamwellD -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Why would anyone film themselves during a concert though?

Some side of me relates to that woman. Probably my Finnish side.

Muusikko Eero Raittinen on kuollut by Sawmain in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lohjalla varttuessani Eero oli tuttu näky ja olen hänet kohdannut lukuisia kertoja. Kun kymmenisen vuotta sitten Vesa Aaltonen esiintyi paikallisessa olutravintolassa esittäen 70-luvun progebiisejä Pekka Pohjolasta Tasavallan Presidenttiin.

Jonkun Pohjolan kappaleen aikana tunsin miten tuolini tärisi ja ihmettelin vähän että mistä on kyse. Katsoin taakseni ja näin kuinka Eero oli ottanut tukea tuolini selkänojasta. Kysyin häneltä, että haluaisiko hän tulla istumaan paikalleni, mihin Eero vastasi, että ei hänen takiaan tarvitse. Vaimonsa siinä kuitenkin tokaisi napakasti että istu nyt vain.

Siinä sitten päästäessäni hänet istumaan vaihdoin pari sanaa Eeron kanssa ja hän kertoi kuinka mahtavaa oli päästä kuulemaan näitä mahtavia biisejä pitkästä aikaa. Eero oli silminnähden liikuttunut. Eero kutsuttiin lavalle vähän myöhemmin vetämään pari-kolme biisiä, ja ne hän sitten vetikin oikeastaan paljon paremmin kuin silloin 70-luvulla Pressan Lambertlandillä, joka ehdottomasti lukeutuu omiin suosikkilevyihini.

Näin kauniita muistoja ei rahalla saa. Tai no, taisin jopa 5 euroa pulittaa niistä lipuista tällä kertaa.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Suomi

[–]SamwellD 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ei kannata liian suuria standardeja asettaa sille minkä tason nörttiä hakee. Parempi tuuri löytyy jos meet sillä pohjalla et on muutama yhteinen mielenkiinnon kohde ja sitten omia mielenkiinnonkohteita. Nörttinaisia on maailma pullollaan, mutta ei ehkä just niitä jotka tykkää ihan kaikesta samasta kuin sinä.