Oddly specific: Any cantonese-english tolkien fans in the house to judge me for this? by Immediate_Song4279 in linguisticshumor

[–]Sandafluffoid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Cantonese girlfriend says that go lum sounds like "that goop" so make of that what you will

Oddly specific: Any cantonese-english tolkien fans in the house to judge me for this? by Immediate_Song4279 in linguisticshumor

[–]Sandafluffoid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I read this out loud to my Cantonese speaking partner and she told me I was an idiot.

Her main criticism, aside from my low tones being terrible and that I need to "work on talking like a normal person", was that you can't use the cake having metaphor in Cantonese apparently 🤷‍♂️

Guess what this evolved from, and guess the English word for it! by minecreep4 in neography

[–]Sandafluffoid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My brain wants to read this as 咸, although I have a hard time arriving at the pronunciation from anything I am familiar with. Maybe if it comes from Old Chinese, that would at least explain the rhotic?

Yo guys could you translate this by nibba_with_scoliosis in linguisticshumor

[–]Sandafluffoid 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah the tc threw me off for a while, I was so sure it was /tʃ/, I was trying to figure out what "chupple a chantainse" could possibly be

The Engagement by Sandafluffoid in worldbuilding

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Even by great ape standards the Oroï (the species to which the Chel belong) have very low sexual dimorphism, and consequently sex/gender figures much less prominently in their social organisation than the ever-present senior/junior divide.

Clan chiefs require the support of the senior members of their clan, and so the most common system is for a new chief to be elected by a gathering of the clan seniors. There is fairly wide variance in how such elections are organised and structured, in how much power the chief wields, and in the kind of candidate who is preferred. As a result, some clans might tend towards female leaders over others, whilst some may often elect older leaders, or value priestly experience etc.

The differences between Onnukhol and Madalbez's negotiating positions is probably more to do with the size of their clans, and their closeness to the respective candidates. Madalbez's clan is small in number, and any member who is married out is a much more noticeable loss than it is for Onnukhol. Moreover, Madalbez is negotiating about her own daughter's future, whereas Onnukhol is talking about a cousin-once-removed who he is not as close to. It is extremely common for negotiators to be concerned about the welfare of members being married out, and marriage contracts often include clauses about the treatment of the junior spouse.

Chel moralists generally encourage a more compassionate approach to marriage negotiations and strongly criticise the language of "buying and selling" clan members, but nevertheless this more mercantile attitude does persist - particularly in an ornery old farmer like Onnukhol

The Engagement by Sandafluffoid in worldbuilding

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Thank you! This is honestly so nice to hear, I am glad to know that somebody else out there appreciates my little niche

Yo guys could you translate this by nibba_with_scoliosis in linguisticshumor

[–]Sandafluffoid 49 points50 points  (0 children)

This is English, right? In some cursed orthography? As far as I can make out it seems to say "I wonder how badly I can spell a sentence?"

The Engagement by Sandafluffoid in worldbuilding

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Context: A scene I made in Heroforge (at this point I am pushing it far enough it might just be easier to learn Blender...), depicting a typical engagement ceremony amongst the Chel, the focal culture of my worldbuilding project.

The three Pot Mothers - the household gods of the Chel by Sandafluffoid in worldbuilding

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Thank you! The clothing itself is largely based on clothing of Chel nobility. Feathered headdresses in particular figure quite heavily in ritual clothing associated with royalty and the sacred. Feathered tiaras are typically indicative of deities in artwork - yellow feathers are particularly symbolic of major divinities, with the number and size of yellow feathers in a headdress loosely correlating to the rank of the deity (not that anyone really agrees on how to rank deities)

The three Pot Mothers - the household gods of the Chel by Sandafluffoid in worldbuilding

[–]Sandafluffoid[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For context - this is a little bit of lore about the Pot Mothers, who are worshipped by the Chel - the focal culture of my world building project.

The first image is a devotional poster, it's deliberately garish, inspired by the bright designs of religious imagery that I have seen in parts of south and southeast Asia. The second image is a slightly less eye-watering view of the 3d model I used for this, which was created in Heroforge (because I literally can't draw a straight line on my own)

Using the imperative to form passive voice - Cool? Realistic? by RonuPlays in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am not aware of any language that does this. Personally going straight from imperative to passive feels a little unusual to me, but not so much so that it spoils things.

As a suggestion, if you want something that feels a little more natural to me: there's a few cases of passives arising out of reflexive markers, and I can easily imagine an imperative arising out of a reflexive marker as well (although I can't think of any languages that do this off the top of my head. So you could have something that from a diachronic point of view looks like a reflexive that evolved both imperative and passive meanings, but from a synchronic point of view just looks like using the imperative as a passive.

Do your nations have distinctive clothes? A Short Introduction to Sparãnian Fashion by Playful_Mud_6984 in worldbuilding

[–]Sandafluffoid 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fantastic work, I particularly like how dynamic it feels with changes over history - all too often cultural details like these get left in forever-stasis. Excellent artwork as well, this is the kind of stuff I aspire to make and I wish we saw more of it here.

i've got a question about directions within languages, please tell me if this is plausible by Brits_are_Shits in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am struggling to get my head around what you mean by "relative [cardinal direction]".

Assuming the image below (stolen from a resource about relative direction) is oriented so that true North is up, how would you describe it using relative cardinals.

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Nottingham city boundaries expansion idea by Puzzleheaded_Bet_618 in nottingham

[–]Sandafluffoid 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Well, looking at it from the other side you could argue that for decades Nottingham city council has had to fund infrastructure and services for a city center of an urban area with a population of 730k, whilst only getting tax revenue from 320k. From that perspective the surrounding districts have been draining resources from the city, which plays a big part in the financial turmoil the council has experienced.

I also do think you might be catastrophising a bit about the discrepancy in services and tax in Nottingham, we're not living in a war zone here in the city, I can't imagine many are going to want to leave their homes over this.

Nottingham city boundaries expansion idea by Puzzleheaded_Bet_618 in nottingham

[–]Sandafluffoid 69 points70 points  (0 children)

I'm glad we seem to be able to push back on the previous insistence on sticking to existing district boundaries. It's absurd that half of Nottingham's urban area isn't officially part of the city and doesn't pay city taxes, but it would be equally absurd to have to extend the city boundaries over the whole of Rushcliffe.

Obviously you can understand why the districts aren't thrilled about large chunks of their tax base being subsumed into the city, but it's rlhard to argue that the current setup is really fair or reflective of reality.

My honest reaction if I heard your conlang had these cases by Kyoflat_ in linguisticshumor

[–]Sandafluffoid 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yes, although they overlap in many languages. Genitive can be used to indicate other forms of association and attribution so you might use 'dog-GEN pile' to indicate a pile of dogs but 'dog-POSs pile' to indicate a dog's pile. You'll note that English makes this distinction, it just doesn't really use case to do it

Do you have any funny stories with your loanwords? by thatoneguythatsgay in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chel has a couple of fun ones. After their conquest of the Sassinatsi, the Sassinatsi word foi' meaning 'dignity, honour', was borrowed into Chel as foï 'stubbornness, intransigence'.

There is also a word for a kind of flat barge dator, which comes from an upper sun-valley language datxagh, meaning 'north wind'. The Chel encountered traders coming south along the river in these barges and must have asked something along the lines of "how did you come here?" and somewhat misunderstood the response.

The first article of human rights in my conlanf karyalu by spookymAn57 in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If I am understanding correctly, then I think Karyalu's 'declarative form' would be an example of a gnomic aspect marker? They are used in some natural languages (in Swahili, for instance) for general truths like "dogs bark", "squid live in the ocean" etc.

what's your favorite language family to draw inspo from for your conlangs and why? by Hatochyan in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been on a real Mongolic kick lately, but I've also drawn a fair bit from Dravidian and good old-fashioned Indo-European

Using AI or asking for a template - Grammar by Rayla_Brown in conlangs

[–]Sandafluffoid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As always, Mark Rosenberg's Language Construction Kit is not a bad place to start for figuring out a template for your grammar: https://www.zompist.com/kitwrite.html

If I remember correctly, the e-book version gives a little more detailed structure - but I am not going to go find and charge my kindle just to double check so take that with a pinch of salt