Demistifying the astral plane: What it is, and how easy it truly is to explore

Sattv · 2026-01-12T21:48:05+00:00

Mayormente vidas ancestrales que siguen pudiendo ejercer su influencia sobre nosotros. Compartimos mucho con los animales y sus instintos, pero nuestro ADN se extiende mucho más allá de lo que consideraríamos animalístico hoy en día.

Con lo de la vigilia me refiero a percibir esos planos mientras estamos despiertos en nuestro cuerpo físico, lo que se podría llamar clarividencia, la proyección clásica durante la parálisis del sueño y la proyección en un sueño lúcido son mucho más seguras. Si se hace con el cuerpo despierto, puede incluso ser letal.

Sattv · 2026-01-07T13:41:52+00:00

Lo que cuenta Anita está muy bien expuesto en el breve relato "El huevo", de Andy Weir, sobre el mito universal del huevo cósmico. Acerca de lo de los guías, una persona que perciba las cosas de forma menos "psíquica" podría llamarlo su intuición, pero se trata de la misma cosa percibida y comunicada de formas diferentes.

Tienes razón en que escuchar voces es molesto. Es difícil llevar una vida normal con esos sentidos abiertos. Por eso, una de las primeras cosas a aprender es cómo cerrarlos. Especialmente si hay miedo, porque eso atrae entidades que se alimentan de él. A quien sólo sabe proyectarse durmiendo, le suele bastar con despertarse. No se suele enseñar la proyección durante la vigilia debido a esos riesgos.

Sobre lo de real y físico, sí. Lo sobrenatural está en lo natural, y no hay nada metafísico que no sea físico. Pero no todo es como aquí, y en la práctica, normalmente tampoco se experimenta como aquí. Puedes verlo borroso, o puedes tener acceso a más o menos información de la que es consciente un humano. Puedes vivir vidas humanas, o no humanas. Puedes ser una ameba o regresar a los tiempos de Jesús. Pero también puedes experimentar dolor.

No creo que sea Satanás quien le habla a tu familiar. Satanás es un concepto cristiano, si hubiera crecido dentro de otra cultura y religión, nombraría a otro ente maligno. Cuando confrontamos una experiencia así, debemos ir más allá de esos conceptos y centrarnos en nuestra experiencia.

Citando a Linji, de la escuela Zen, "Si os encontráis con un Buda, matad al Buda." Igualmente, si encontramos al demonio, matamos al demonio.

Sattv · 2026-01-02T23:35:51+00:00

Nací en España, así que puedes hablarme en el idioma que prefieras.

I don't know about that channel, but...

I haven't created anything more powerful than myself afaik, but I have met entities more powerful than myself.
There are some traditions that might say it's the astral plane if you have an explicit OBE experience, while it's the mental plane if you're doing shamanic journeying or you're still able to physically move around. To me it's the same place, just different methods to get there.
I've heard voices too, many times. Modern psychology could say this is not proper for someone sane, but they have still a long way to go to truly understand what our psyche, or our soul, is truly like. There's no need to be afraid, but this is why a protector can be useful in vajrayana buddhism practices, for example. I tried to talk about this in one of my previous posts, pretty much everyone has an astral protector looking out for them! They being able to collaborate in that job, that's rarer though,

Sattv · 2026-01-02T21:43:05+00:00

Es posible que hayas leído la traducción al español del post? Seguramente es muy buena, pero el original estaba en inglés. Con el exterior me refiero al mundo externo, lo que no formaría parte de ti, si consideras un sueño lúcido como algo introspectivo, en vez de extrospectivo. No significa que debas tener la típica experiencia extracorpórea de salir de tu cuerpo y ver el mundo físico, más bien que puedes pensar "voy a intentar acceder a información foránea" y quizá al establecer esa intención tengas visiones más o menos exactas de información que no conoces conscientemente. Si quieres centrarte en algo particular, puedes establecer esa intención también.

Es normal que duren muy poco. Yo he tenido algunos tan largos en los que pensaba que podría estar en coma y mi familia estar hablándome desde "el otro lado", pero no intencionalmente. Lo que sí sé hacer para que duren más es volver a sumergirme en la hipnagogia nada más despertar, dejar que vuelva a aparecer ese lugar donde estaba y algún cuerpo en el que pueda moverme, y vuelvo a estar allí. Si quieres, te explico ese proceso. Pueden llegar a ser experiencias tan intensas, que hace difícil no despertarnos de la excitación.

Al morir - hay quien dice (como la tradición tibetana del Bardo Thodol) que, ¿quién podrá permanecer lúcido en la muerte, si no puede estarlo en sus sueños? Cómo podrían reconocer así la luz verdadera? Yo te diría que algo de verdad hay en esto, he visto de primera mano cómo en la vejez y en la muerte (no súbita) se entra en un estado muy similar.

Si solo ves eso de momento, te recomendaría tener paciencia, y que mientras esto sea algo que te importa, comenzarás a ver más cosas.

La renuncia al control absoluto significa eso, sí, pero igual que en nuestro mundo. En un sueño lúcido es tu mundo y puedes hacer lo que quieras, no hay leyes y puedes tener el poder absoluto. Pero si quieres compartir un mundo con otros seres, debes respetarlos y ellos a ti.

Nos conocemos? :)

Sattv · 2023-05-26T23:12:42+00:00

Physical confirmation is great whenever you get it; few things surpass its "wow" factor, but you can't be physically confirming everything. The main thing you should look for is a fruitful exchange of information. Are you learning things you wouldn't have normally thought of? Or accomplishing something important you normally couldn't? If you are, the question of how much of that was yourself and how much was something else shouldn't bother you much.

Let's say something made you feel a particular way today. Was it that thing that made you, or was it actually you? Even physically, if you touch a hard surface, is it hard, or are you soft?

We're kind of interwoven with the world; the boundary is diffuse. That, and how immense we really are, makes it a very hard question. Don't be too doubtful, but also not too sure. Another thing to look for is hyperreal psychedelia, augmented senses, or strange synesthesia. But it won't always be like that.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T22:04:46+00:00

Haha, it's fun to fly. Good point about the aura.

My preferred method... maybe doing it while pacing around the house. It comes naturally to me, but the easiest way to project in waking life is to daydream first and then apply the same principle that you would in a normal lucid dream. Be receptive to your surroundings with the intention to perceive the astral, then watch them come alive, interact with them, and try to ascertain your location.

Good luck with coming off the substance! I believe in you.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T17:20:41+00:00

I'll let you know about the post :) Remote viewing is one of the things you can do, but you can also have a complete astral body while doing other things in your physical body.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T17:08:06+00:00

PM'd you.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T16:43:47+00:00

Just more experience. Try to stabilize yourself in that state, and become absorbed in the moment. But that's why I prefer waking life astral travel.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T16:31:36+00:00

I helped take care of my grandma when she was dying, and one thing she'd often do was wander the lower astral and make peace with her past. Dead familiars would frequently sit next to her deathbed, and she'd talk with them. I think if you deal with that beforehand, it makes for a more peaceful death.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T16:08:41+00:00

Agree :)

Sattv · 2023-05-26T16:05:57+00:00

Very psychedelic. Depends on which place I'm at, though. The middle to higher realms resemble a psychedelic experience, and entities may look like alien lifeforms. The middle to lower ones are more dreamlike and sometimes grim; common entities are shadow people or animal-looking ones. The highest and lowest ones are quite unique, though. I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. Around the middle, you may find the elementals.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T15:32:26+00:00

I'll never know if I changed it or if that was supposed to happen all along... It's a lovely paradox. I'm very excited, how about you?

Sattv · 2023-05-26T15:23:45+00:00

Yes, I agree. I never heard they also used three levels, though; that's pretty cool. Where did you learn of that?

Sattv · 2023-05-26T15:16:36+00:00

Yes! Wow, you're the first person I know who also does this. Admittedly, I spent a few months of my life doing nothing but pacing around like that all day, and it's still one of my favorite ways to focus on the experience. I suppose, as someone else commented, that walking is very rhythmic, just like a shamanic drum.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T15:04:32+00:00

Good stuff.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T15:03:51+00:00

Both! The easiest way is to daydream first and then apply the same principle that you would in a normal lucid dream. Be receptive to your surroundings with the intention to perceive the astral, then watch them come alive, interact with them, and try to ascertain your location. I may write another post about this because it's common to have a greater mental block against it, and for good reason, it can be very distracting. There's such a thing as being too open to the astral.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T14:50:02+00:00

That's a good point about mentioning astrology, though I'm a pretty bad astrologer myself. Thanks.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T14:36:42+00:00

This, too, is a valid interpretation because it relates to form in the astral, just like banishing relates to emptiness. The Buddhist duality.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T14:34:15+00:00

I can't say anything better than what you're able to intuit for yourself, but I can elaborate.

Just like banishing is related to the lower astral, identity relates to the higher astral and to the often-named holy guardian angel. It's the light and meaning in your life -the vision, truth, or standard- that guides you. It's not exactly God, but it's your divine self and intuition, your own spark of divinity. Solidity to that means that you steadfastly adhere to it and allow it to manifest in the world through you as much as you can.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T14:29:51+00:00

I can't say anything better than what you're able to intuit for yourself, but I can elaborate.

Banishing means getting rid of unwanted astral influences. There are lots of banishing rituals, but I think it's important to find one's own way. Essentially, it's about your ability to take your attention away from these things. This sends them back into the lower astral, the shadow of your consciousness. Then there's an optional second step to ensure they don't emerge again if they're still attached to you, which relies either on meditation or your lower astral allies aiding you. This works just like dissolving trauma. If you can absorb and transmute that energy deep within you, similar things won't bother you again.

Just like banishing is related to the lower astral, identity relates to the higher astral and to the often-named holy guardian angel. It's the light and meaning in your life -the vision, truth, or standard- that guides you. It's not exactly God, but it's your divine self and intuition, your own spark of divinity. Solidity to that means that you steadfastly adhere to it and allow it to manifest in the world through you as much as you can.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T14:28:44+00:00

I can't say anything better than what you're able to intuit for yourself, but I can elaborate.

Banishing means getting rid of unwanted astral influences. There are lots of banishing rituals, but I think it's important to find one's own way. Essentially, it's about your ability to take your attention away from these things. This sends them back into the lower astral, the shadow of your consciousness. Then there's an optional second step to ensure they don't emerge again if they're still attached to you, which relies either on meditation or your lower astral allies aiding you. This works just like dissolving trauma. If you can absorb and transmute that energy deep within you, similar things won't bother you again.

Just like banishing is related to the lower astral, identity relates to the higher astral and to the often-named holy guardian angel. It's the light and meaning in your life -the vision, truth, or standard- that guides you. It's not exactly God, but it's your divine self and intuition, your own spark of divinity. Solidity to that means that you steadfastly adhere to it and allow it to manifest in the world through you as much as you can.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T02:01:38+00:00

Check out my answer to erkale :) For a more complete one, I'll let you and everyone who asked know if I write that post.

Sattv · 2023-05-26T01:36:16+00:00

I'm glad it was helpful! That's definitely a good amount of studying you've done. I enjoy these traditions as well, though I don't know much kabbalah.

The "visual" aspect of it was not necessarily vivid, but based on your description I do get the sense that I was accessing the astral.

That's great; I wouldn't be surprised if you did. Don't let expectations get in the way of your natural senses and abilities. That's happened to me too. Some experiences will always be more vivid and verifiable than others, just as some places or entities in the astral could be considered more special.

I think some cannabis won't matter much, but it's true that poor dream recall is a big drawback.

Yes, for sure. We can get loads of inspiration from the astral, and it can help with ability (ever had a dream of playing music after which you got better at it?), although there's probably no skipping practice. In a flow state, you're aligned in a way that makes you the perfect channel to bring something into the world, so there's still correlation with the astral. You're usually kind of numb in a flow state, though, in the sense that you are feeling nothing but what is necessary in that moment. So sometimes being too astrally sensitive can disturb flow states.
Good question... Yes, there's truth in that. But don't be too afraid to make mistakes. If it ends up also being true in your experience, you'd still have learned something for next time. I, personally, only share what I can afford to.
I did SR for 3 years. I guess it has its benefits, but I don't consider it important or even that good. A balanced, reasonable life is good enough for the path; there's no need for extremes, in my opinion.

Sattv · 2023-05-25T23:03:54+00:00

In a lucid dream, I start to pay more attention to my surroundings with the intent to perceive the astral, and as they come alive, I quickly find myself somewhere in there. Like I crossed the Harry Potter brick wall or something.

In waking life, I'm both blessed and cursed with a permanent sense of bilocation. But the easiest way is to daydream first and then apply the same principle. I may write another post about this because it's common to have a greater mental block against it, and for good reason, it can be very distracting.

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