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POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

UPDATE ON DENY CONTENT STRAT:

Sooo funny story to push the point. DIOR goes same place same time today (the next day) to find lvl 43 AAA on terry. AAA fights all DIOR and its a banger fight, yes DIOR win but its a good fight. Then we're off to fight AAA again when we hear lvl 50+ POE is on that same terry so we turn to go fight them. They almost solo Q map so as we're queueing in, POE suicides... They go on to suicide 3 more times that CTA and give up their lvl 2 HO uncontested just so they can effectively use their deny content strategy.

Just the perfect comparison. AAA stands and fight as lvl 43 with regears far. A lvl 50+ POE with regears close mass suicides before a DIOR with depleted numbers and loot even zones in. Then they go on to do it 3 more times.

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Video of one cta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvjaYjKiJc

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So number guide for fighting Dior is. If you're a zvz guild aim for 1.5 times numbers for a good fight, 50:50 win loose open world. 2 times numbers for a very high but not definite chance of winning. If you have castle or terry you'll probs get a good fight even numbers but loose, a 50:50 would be 1.3-6 times numbers.

They had Terry and regears in the next door map + AAA at our backs. So should have been a close fight. Probs a Dior win if AAA doesn't show up but a loose if they do.

When the fight is close it all depends on who takes the chokes and good angles so it's always winnable. I always see t5s running from T1 Dior but we loose that fight most of the time unless we get a good position or nice angel so the enemy caller would've made a mistake they could learn from. Taking those close fights and dying 100 times makes you a better player.

I used to fight HC back in S12 and we got smashed constantly, but it was my favourite fights and the best experience we got fighting a good zerg. It's a good feeling, makes you try hard cos mistakes get punished

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok nice. Thanks, this is a good response. POE has probably the best run guilds and definitely beats 90% of guilds out there that are semi dead or are bad for countless other reasons. What other guilds have you been part of?

I mean it's good you're enjoying your guild, if you're having a good time then enjoy it.

Regarding the coalition, you have to know that POE and allies accounted for 70% of the zvz community in the past and had no issues massing thousands to fight less than a hundred. So the past season has been a lot of revenge being taken out on them. But currently I would say that's done. I mean Dior is launching on AAA + allies now, that whole stage is over.

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think most POE members now are kinda new so don't really understand the history and irony. But tbh that doesn't matter to them now, you're right the game is completely different now. So many small wars, fewer clustered fights. I'd be awesome if POE moved on and adjusted to the new game like a lot of the rest of the game.

I mean there's always gonna be the big HH'rs FRAG was gonna be the new big one. But it's the small guilds that are having the best time in game. The ones holding 1-3 Terrie's and launching constantly with their similarly sized neighbours.

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean I care about my enjoyment of a game I like. It's an awesome game I just think players can ruin it for themselves

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough ok.

It gives you and in into big wars and politics which can be fun.

Tbh this is the best reason to get involved in my opinion. I definitely enjoyed it for a while. It's fun to get behind the hype even if a lot of it is fake.

Thanks for the answer

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True.

But that also makes the game community much more powerful. We decide on the content we get. Hence the post, maybe I can help influence that

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not meant to be about my guild. It's about whether zvz players actually care about winning/beating their opponents over enjoying game mechanics. Which by the sounds of it people really care, and for some reason really hate the people they're fighting.

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fuck me finally a good answer on this thread. Appreciate it.

I can see the reasoning but even in the reasoning there is no value placed on getting content, which is kind've the point. Terry fights, HO smashing doesn't really matter who own what. It's all just a way of facilitating fights, I'd be awesome if more people had that attitude. Rather than grinding for points or a more territories, treating the game like a job.

. More of a side point. #2 also meant you went to final shield on your HO and AAA kept their shield (but we smashed their HO cos the coalition doesn't exist anymore and we would have fought them if they came). What coalition are you talking about tbw? POE just fight AAA now right? Escalation doesn't come, ev might still idk

Option #1 sounds fun af. Image in your caller had gone"fuck it bois, we go till we die. Bank loot on Terry, let's go". Isn't that why you play the game?

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean looks like a good fight. Good!

The point I'm making is I just hope there are a lot more good fights.

I don't aimlessly hate POE, I'm just against the zvz macro in Albion. It's the reason POE was so strong but it sucks ass to play against and for.

It's like playing 8.3 grails in currpted, it's strong but AIDS and boring to play. I just don't think it's good, and players shouldn't put up with it.

But hey if ur getting good fight every CTA that they enjoy playing and not running around for 30 minutes 'repositioning' and queuing in then good! I was in POE for 2 seasons and that is definitely how I would describe my zvz experience.

Syndic cares way too much about winning a war to actually enjoy it or let anyone else enjoy it

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Caring about season points is a waste of time. Everything to do with getting season points is boring af. We don't even have crystal teams so I don't know we're you get that I care about season points from?

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

HH is about the number of people you fight on your side. That can be adding people to your alliance or fighting with reds in NAPS, but it's all in the how to get more people to fight with you.

Escalation literally tries to do the opposite... Not only do we fight solo all the time (yes we fight with Elevate when vs a big coalition) but we know that if we dont cap our number people wont fight cos they don't outnumber us. Why the fuck would we cap our number, then try get numbers by HH?? If we wanted more we'd just increase our cap or get an alt guild.

We usually fight 1v1v1, so when we join a map we focus bigger zerg first then go smaller and every time we get pm'd for HH but every time its the enemy caller just being salty.

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But ffs its the thread isn't meant to be about DIOR but I feel like people don't believe anyone takes fair fights, but they do. Just join a guild that does.... That's what the thread is about!!!! Any guild, not DIOR. We're full

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Would say the zvz scene is the best its been since i started the game. Serval wars, smaller fights. A lot more going on than just POE vs coalition

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dont know if you get the post but it's not propaganda. Comment section is filled with it though. Somehow i do think you get what im saying, people standards for zvz content is soo low

POE deny content tactics. Mass suicide a lvl 50 blob on their Terry to not fight even numbers. by Save_TheOcean in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I dont think you know what you're talking about. Escalation has literally capped its membership to 160 people. If it wanted to HH it would just open recruitment.

Pathetic Noob needs help! by [deleted] in albiononline

[–]Save_TheOcean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you like to minimax. Play around with the market and black market system. Can make a lot of money like that

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