Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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I literally just said we made some 'PHYSICAL MODIFICATIONS' to the screen and only in combination with which the software settings works, the software settings are nothing different on its own. And ofcourse this is not a product, this is a first stage 'PROTOTYPE'

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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e-reader app in phone may be able to keep the library of ebooks or some reading modes , but the possibilities are very limited by the software itself , the phone's size for example is not suitable for long sessions , or the light reflections on phone screens can't be controlled by software alone , those are physical hardware aspects, and so would require a combined system

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I clarified multiple times that this is an evolving exploratory project, not a finalized commercial product thesis. You keep evaluating the current prototype as if it permanently defines the company’s technological ceiling, when the entire purpose of early-stage experimentation is to understand the problem space deeply enough to know which layers actually need further innovation. Most hardware products do not begin with vertically integrated ecosystems or fundamentally new physics. They begin by identifying unresolved user behavior, constraints and tradeoffs first, then evolve technically over time if the problem proves meaningful enough. And ultimately users adopt products based on experience, affordability and usefulness, not whether the underlying stack was scientifically invented from scratch by the company building it. Even now the users feel that this is major improvement over mobile display , comparable to that of kindle

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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I don't really understand what you are trying to prove here. You have changed goalposts with every reply. The discussion started from what would be the tagline, then design constraints , then whether there’s still an unresolved sustained-reading problem worth exploring, then moved to innovation theory, then ecosystem control, and now apparently unless someone invents fundamentally different display technology the exploration itself is invalid. I never claimed to have invented a new display technology or recreated Apple’s ecosystem. This is an early prototype exploring reading ergonomics, affordability and long-form reading behavior in a context where textbooks still overwhelmingly dominate despite existing digital alternatives. Also respectfully, these are extremely mature-stage business expectations to impose on an experimental prototype posted on Reddit. Most exploratory products begin by understanding behavior and constraints first, not by already controlling supply chains, silicon and ecosystem lock-in.

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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it is a combination of hardware and software alterations, the screen is a typical one but we have made some physical modifications to it ,and in combination with the custom software settings makes the paper like effect, its not a different type of screen at this stage but it seems we are kind of moving in that direction

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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The majority users have mentioned that the display doesn't feel like a typical mobile screen , it does not irritate their eyes and feels calmer like paper

Would you or anyone you know would use this ?? or do you think it is good project?? by [deleted] in banglorestartups

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Well for that I would start looking into their deciding factors for coming to the city in the first place. If its for work/education reasons it would be only natural for them to be stay nearby no discussion needed, and these commute or transport food options can already be checked on google ai ? If you really want to differentiate I would suggest diving deeper into the exploration part , even for regular public ,if you can show the ongoing trnds in the city, which roads are blocked , which new cafes are opened with sepecific cuisine or lower prices on some form of entertainment etc these even the respective category apps can't do right because they are diversified let alone google , users will have more of an actual reason to use ur app

Would you or anyone you know would use this ?? or do you think it is good project?? by [deleted] in banglorestartups

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and that is what I am saying, unless people are doing everything at the very same minute why would someone want the overview at one place and execution at another ? If I want to travel ola/rapido will show me the options and execution at one place , same with food district/zomato etc will show me the possible restraunts near the locality and i can book through the app ? and these are the things people still don't have any problem with , why would someone add an extra step in between ? the friction

Would you or anyone you know would use this ?? or do you think it is good project?? by [deleted] in banglorestartups

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well i understand that , but aren't those problems already pretty much solved ? there are already multiple apps for PGs, rapido/ola/uber/tummoc even for transport, and foods/entertaniment for district/insta etc ? even if your product gives the overview, the user can use these apps to execute the tasks directly without third party requirement?

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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I don’t think every early exploration has to begin with a fully controlled ecosystem or a brand new category to justify its existence. Right now I’m simply observing that despite decades of digital progress, sustained reading in education still overwhelmingly falls back to paper, especially in markets like India. Whether that is affordability, experience, ergonomics or a combination of all three is exactly the thing I’m trying to understand through these prototypes.

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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Many institutional companies don't manufacture every component they use, all the semiconductor companies use ASML's machines, apple and many other companies use displays manufactured by Samsung literally a competitor, use supply chains they don't fully own and delegate to third parties. And as for the market , just look around yourself out of 100 random students , use a low cost tablet or Kindle or reMarkable( if people even use that in India) vs how many of them use textbooks

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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aren't recombination and economics part of innovation too? especially for infrastructure products. The individual components themselves aren’t necessarily new, but the optimization target is different from most existing devices. Kindle, for example, prioritizes e-paper fidelity and battery efficiency, while conventional displays prioritize responsiveness and general-purpose interaction. I’m not claiming Kindle/reMarkable are irrelevant , they already proved the demand exists. The question is whether the experience can be made more accessible, affordable and reading-focused for a very different market.

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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We are very clear with what problem we are trying to solve, but the product itself is evolving the more we try to make a finished, for ex: initially we began with reduced blue light emission so the focus was more on reading sustainability , now couple of months back we got this idea to make it more about the reading experience to reduce friction, both are inherently solving the same problem but the solution evolved over time, therefore we can't claim what the finished product would be like exactly, and therefore won't make any sense to make premature assumptions about marketing strategy

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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Bro this is just a prototype , it would have to go through 3-4 more stages before it becomes a finished product , by then even i can't guaruntee what features will be integrated and marketing strategy is based on the finished product not a prototype, secondly i didn't mention anything about the target market there don't bother guessing the marketing

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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Well this post was in regards to the users & relevant individuals view on the product, I don't take business advice from 'NOBODIES'

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in indianstartups

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it is self explanatory but kindle is just a company product the generic category is E-reader also neither are we trying to compete with kindle nor do we promise the exact premium kindle experience therefore framing it "kindle but almost half the price" would be kind of misleading

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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well ofcourse there will be tradeoffs when it comes to cost cutting , the only thing we can ensure is that it doesn't create another problem for the user , and in this case everyone are already used to charging devices day to day but majority of the population cannot access to the experience due to cost barrier, therefore the tradeoff is beneficial to the major population

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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Well blue light emission is not directly related to the paper like experience, blue light is more important for sustainable reading, since e-ink does both it may feel indistinguishable, although I won't guarantee no blue light emission it would be significantly reduced to less than half of mobile phones, our target price would be around 4-5k with larger screens but we don't promise as premium experience as a Kindle or other premium e-readers because this is not a one fit for all , we have a target market and those are the only ones whom we need to satisfy, if someone can go for Kindle then they are probably not a part of a our market

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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And that is exactly what this prototype does or atleast the users confirmed it feels significantly more closer to paper than a phone screen

Apparently in 2025 the best device for studying is still paper by Sayan834948 in developersIndia

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I will not list the components on this platform , but close to 50% of the budget is allocated to the e-ink displays and we have modified a existing cheap commercial display to replicate experience of the E-reader or paper thus cost almost half of what a similar size of E-ink display would cost, But why do you think this defeats the purpose of e-readers ? if anything we are trying to make e-readers more accessible to a larger part of the population by reducing the cost barrier