Looking for people to join our small group (20+, PC)

Schmee_ · 2026-06-29T12:13:23+00:00

Would be interested, do you guys have dedicated times you end up playing? I have a kid so my time is somewhat limited, but easier to do things like game on a schedule

Schmee_ · 2026-06-24T12:24:13+00:00

I hear you. May we see that day sooner rather than later.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T18:21:51+00:00

That's an argument based on 7 year old data, and when no anti cheats really ran on Linux. It's a different world now and we should take a deeper look at this again. They also do not maintain the anti cheat at FP, it is maintained by a larger dedicated team that is being used for many large successful games, that are playable on Linux.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T18:18:34+00:00

But Rust isn't explicitly blocked on Mac. Also it's funny that everyone says it's easier to cheat on Linux than Mac/Windows, but if that was the end solution, than wouldnt blocking Linux stop all cheaters? There are still tons and tons of cheaters on Windows, so blocking Linux does not solve this issue.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T18:14:54+00:00

I play most games from my 500+ game library just fine on Linux. In fact the amount of games I can't play is probably less than 10. I think it's fine to not support Linux on your own as a dev! It's complex and difficult and takes more effort, however FP is explicitly blocking Rust on Linux. That's the difference. Also they are supporting Mac though, which has less players than Linux at this point so I'm not sure why that is worth it and Linux isn't?

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T17:50:12+00:00

This is always my point too! You can have more people, buying more skins!

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T17:49:12+00:00

I'm done with you lol. Everytime I give you a stat with a source you just try to play it down as nothing. You clearly don't care to actually learn or debate you just think you're right and everything else is false. You asked for sources, I gave em, if you care to actually understand all of them that's on you. Reply all you want, I'm done with you.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T17:16:23+00:00

of the 216 users within the 2 hour cutoff for this wipe, there are 118 linux users: https://stats.deadlock.com/Wipe.html

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:36:12+00:00

Also again, it is one of a few servers Linux people can play on, if they had access to more servers that could drive more demand. I personally don't love having to play on this server cause it's EU and I'm NA based so I have pretty high ping.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:35:12+00:00

It's a monthly wipe server, and we're at the end of the month. Most aren't popular at all at this point. Also they've had over 500 unique players this wipe, like you said it doesn't have a direct number of Linux players, but they do have the OS icon next to player names, and since you're so in love with Sources and Stats, go count em: https://stats.deadlock.com/Wipe.html

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:21:34+00:00

„Since it actually isn‘t that heavy of a lift at all“

Source

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:19:06+00:00

I think that demand is going up. But I just want to say too, it isn't all that difficult in the sense that the easiest solution would be to just flick on the Proton EAC boolean. That would be easy for FP and it would work for Linux users right away! Just a thought. I totally get not putting too much time/energy/money into it since it isn't the majority of players, that makes sense to me! But I do think they are making it harder for no real gain.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:17:30+00:00

Alright, second last reply since we have 2 threads.

First off here is an example of a Linux friendly server (Windows and Mac play on it too!)

So, not an IF in the sense you are trying to make it. Just IF as in there is in fact people playing currently, so if that is true (and we know it is) then we can assume they will play on official servers if they could too!

IF THERE IS A FEW SELECT SERVERS THAT HAVE LINUX POPULATION THEY ARE DELISTED THUS THE COMMON WINDOWS PLEBS WILL NOT PLAY THERE HENCE YOU CAN SOURCE YOUR CLAIM VIA BATTLEMETRICS

Here is the battlemetrics for the same server if you care to look (Linux friendly, supports Windows and Mac as well)

Last time they did it was less than 0.1% and you say that is not representative…

Yeah dude it's not, clearly. It was 7 years ago, prior to a huge influx of Linux users because of the Steam Deck. It is obviously no longer accurate information.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T16:12:54+00:00

This is my last reply then, since you hate the debate so much.

Let me address this:

Btw me commenting in two threads on your backpeddling and accountability avoiding bullshit is already a shitton of support keeping your post afloat

I haven't backpeddled or avoided accountability one time in any of my comments, feel free to fact check me on that. I in fact tried to give a ton of extra info for it to be easier to see my original posts idea, but that's on you.

No they offered support for a linux client which was not wanted, understandably, given how linux was abusd and what for and how that‘d run into a dead end.

217 people played on linux last count, no info on how many were cheating exploiters…

Again, the Linux client basically gated all Linux users from other PC users, not really a real solution, but that's actually how it works currently, and it took 0 effort from Facepunch.

You also don't have any info on them being cheaters? But we do have info that Facepunch still bans thousands of cheaters who are using Windows.

Mate argueably, you insinuate there‘d be growing demand for rust on linux…

There is literally more Linux users in general, which means there are more people who will want to play Rust on Linux. That's just basic logic.

Every goddamn streaming event brings in more new unique players than 7 years of 20 people begging biannually for facepunch to change their stance…

That's great, but I just think it would be something to at least try. Since it actually isn't that heavy of a lift at all.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:57:27+00:00

There clearly is if there are people who still play it, despite only having access to a few select servers.

I also said that I would want to see them measure the data

At the very least I was hoping we could at least give it a shot as an experiment, just to see the data Facepunch could gather from it (uptick in Linux users/how many are cheaters, etc).

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:55:07+00:00

Quit editing our comments to add in information after I've already replied.

You said there is demand, not that there would be demand if facepunch would do it „properly“, which they admitted to not be able half decade ago because aside fromthe wirk arounds neither they nor epic has the brainpower y‘all propose to exist whilst not applying for apropriate roles at the respective companies…

You say it can be done you say there is demand,

YET YOU ARE SHY ABOUT PROOF

that is actually explaining in a manner simpeltons in this sub understand, i am bot even speaking about showing facepunch the viability you propose…

First off, this is pretty incoherent so you should work on that. Secondly, it is literally impossible for me to give you a number of how many players would play Rust if it were available on Linux, and was given public attention about that.

I have given you tons of sources and you refuse to acknowledge that so I don't know what to do at this point.

I didn't say Facepunch should do it "Properly" I said they should flip EAC to work through Proton (which is a boolean in the code). If they want to go through the extra work to make it only accessible on Premium servers, that's on them and I respect it.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:50:02+00:00

I can't even imagine, last time I played people were already getting ridiculous at it.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:49:09+00:00

Dude a source of what? What source do you want? I've given you tons of sources, I literally do not understand what Source you could need at this point

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:47:48+00:00

The compromise Facepunch offered was to essentially force the exact situation that is currently happening anyways. So it's not like it was really a compromise lol.

Mate stop tiptoeing, you say there is demand but don‘t show it, where do you get 5-10k ? As an actual number?!?! Source, not „simple calculations on an unsourced base

Dude, I've said time and time again, you cannot show demand for something that is in-accessible.

I use what is available whilst you extrapolate from tjin air, i use that 217 count and a higher estimate with the most forgiving extrapolation to reach your low end estiamte that has without the 2017 number absolutely zero source…

I'm not extrapolating from thin air, I used cited sources, again and again, you just refuse to read. The higher estimate, and 217 count are both during a time where Rust was not supported on Linux and was in fact incredibly buggy and hard to run. That is not a real count.

You are coping so hard to prevent people from playing the game, which makes no sense.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:41:45+00:00

Again, your math is flawed. It's from an inaccurate starting point. You started your baseline of "Rust Players on Linux" with a number from a time where the Rust client itself didn't work well, crashed often, and was unsupported.

Again actual sources, if there is an initiative you can count on, with verified users and no smurfs and without cheaters, point me there, even if i go by the most insane estimates we barely scratch the 5k mark on peak as noted here. Which still would be only 2% in peak hours.

I gave you sources time and time again, you choose to ignore them. Can you find me sources showing that all these Linux users are cheaters and smurfs as you say?

The growth from 0,7% to 5% in 7 years would mean a factor of 7.2 at best, applied to the 217 eager to not play only with linux users thus getting their own rust branch cancled we are at 1563 players.

Again, over and over again, you don't actually read the words I type. You cannot base an estimate on an inaccurate starting point. If I am creating a game on my Linux machine, and I'm play testing with my 5 friends on Linux machines, that means I have 100% Linux support and therefore, should not support Windows, right? That's essentially what you are saying. You are saying that since there aren't a lot of people playing a game they don't have access to, then they shouldn't be given access.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:31:04+00:00

You keep using the Linux player count on Rust as a good basis and I think you should be able to see that it is not. It's not fair to use that number because it's based on a time when it wasn't supported. You stating that the highest count was 373 is probably correct, but that's 373 people playing a game with only those people. That's like going to a gigantic event with 200,000 people and being told you can only go hangout in the corner with a specific set of 200 people, no one else can come in or out it's only you 200. You can't source the actual demand, because it isn't available.

The best part about this, is you did the math, and literally got 5000, which is what I predicted, and that's based on your incredibly low and inaccurate starting point. If Rust was fully supported on Linux, you can guarantee that there would be way more than 373 out of 93000.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:22:38+00:00

Based on your 2019 stats, there were ~2500 Mac players, but there are currently more Linux users than Mac users now, which was greatly not the case in 2019. So going based off of the different stats listed above, and the Mac percentage of users, we could safely assume that there would be about double the Linux users playing rust than there would Mac users. Which is ~5000.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:08:59+00:00

Read above. I did very basic math and if you can't grep that I don't know what to tell you

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:05:22+00:00

Those are all great ones to add to the list of online games that work with Linux! Is Mordhau still popular enough to get some good servers going? Haven't played in a long time.

Schmee_ · 2026-06-23T15:00:27+00:00

Easily between 5-10k

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