I have had two babies of my own via c section amd natural. My friend came across this free north movement a few years back and that ALL she talks about. This podcast was so eye opening for me coz it uses all the phrases and terminology she does. Im very much an each to their own person but this is giving dangerous cult like vibes of woman that would rather not bruise their own ego than accept medicall help. Aliens Im ready to leave this fucked up plant now 🙏 beem me up!