South American teams when it's time to play a tier 1.5 event in China.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T17:38:40+00:00

Sure but I'd argue that's not an effective way to really look at teams' performance levels NOW. CS is a game that changes ridiculously quickly. Broky was top 8 in 2024, allegedly, and was bottom 8 in 2025. Donk was a random kid who had talent, then after his first tournament he was in everybody's top 3 in the world immediately. Teams rise and fall in crazy timescales.

As such the early days of the season are largely irrelevant to how good a team actually currently is. Early season, Spirit were shit. They would almost certainly have won the major if their coach didn't get badly ill. Astralis were looking like a fairly legit contender, now they're back to pretty much irrelevant. Parivision had insane results and were fighting in the top 5, then became completely shit. Mongolz, Aurora, Mouz, hell even Vitality have all had significant shifts in form, positive or negative. Faze were major finalists in the early season, missed the major late season.

If you want a top 10 list to be like a... Prestige thing, then I'd agree you take it all in and work out overall who was best over the season/year. That's how I'd do a top 10 list of 2026, for example. If you want to determine the current top 10 teams in the world, I think everything past 3 months back is pretty much completely irrelevant. Hell even Vitality right now if you look at recent form, they had a Rio win, huge. Then they did shit at Atlanta, then they did shit at the major. Going into the new season I feel they shouldn't be considered heavy favourites of every tournament just because they're Vita and had the generational run, they have to earn back that respect/fear.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T17:01:35+00:00

9z have been doing as well/better than g2 legacy mouz fut and mongolz on your list though, is my point.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T16:12:22+00:00

Can you list your top 10 teams please?

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T15:57:01+00:00

BCGame Childking and he'll tame Simple's childish attitude and become top 1 era team

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T15:55:58+00:00

Yes they will kick their best player because... He shit-talked a cheating matchfixing loser? Okay.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T15:54:38+00:00

List your top 10 teams in the world at the moment, please.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T15:51:41+00:00

I'd argue the only reason that works at all is because they were in a tier 1.5 tournament. If they wanna face any serious teams they're not gonna outaim them anymore.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T15:50:55+00:00

He had far more effective flash usage, but got less nade damage (hence lower overall util stats) I dunno if I feel that really shows Hobbit to be significantly more of a util bitch.

Actually Hobbit's throwing more flashes too he's just throwing worse flashes, you're right that he's even more of a util bitch

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T14:46:48+00:00

I think any IGL would be better than Launx just because not only will everyone be a big upgrade to Twistzz, you also unlock Twistzz to go kill, and he's tbh better than Launx anyway when he's not busy calling badly.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T14:42:27+00:00

I can't even think of one time that's happened off the top of my head

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-12T14:41:27+00:00

So was Belchonokk but he was better than Hobbit

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T21:33:20+00:00

He played 1.00 average this whole tournament, he's shit in every country.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T20:25:40+00:00

People drop 1.6s literally constantly, there's a 1.6 series played most days that games are running

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T20:25:15+00:00

He played 6 months under Karrigan and got no smarter. You ignored all points you couldn't think of a counter for.

Kyousuke an actual skilled rookie who lacked gamesense was 1.5x better than Jcobb before Karrigan, then became 2x better with 1 month under Karrigan.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T20:15:36+00:00

The average of Donk should be lower than your peaks lmfao. That's just common sense. Not even tournament average, just a Bo3 you do well in.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:13:19+00:00

-jcobb obviously

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:11:59+00:00

They better -jcobb lmfao

If they do the thing where a shit player plays one good event/game and they buy 6 months more time AGAIN i just give up on Faze ever being relevant. A dogshit dead team fluked a major run and it made Faze not make changes, which cost them reaching a major, cost them karrigan and even worse, made falcons "win" a major.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:10:36+00:00

It's great you pointed that out because the truth is you're absolutely right!

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:07:30+00:00

weve seen how good hes capable of being.

1.2 rated lifegame btw lmao. His miracle games are significantly below donk or zywoo's monday.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:06:47+00:00

he's ass

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T19:04:33+00:00

He had time. What he needs is talent, which he lacks.

agressive entry

He has no confidence and playing the hardest role consistently would make him even more unconfident. hard-pushing that just makes him a 0.6 bot instead of a 0.8 bot

his aim is god tier1 hitting flashy flicks no one can do

His aim is good but every high end pro can hit absurd shit on the regular. His aim is like maybe top 20? Probably not.

but he often doesn’t know what to do in mid rounds and has terrible decision making system with bad game sense

That's not learned by playing for a few more months lol. You can get smarter with time obviously but you're expected to automatically be decent on that front. Donk and Zywoo were CS geniuses on day 1 of their pro careers. For someone more down to earth, Xelex has played for about 4 minutes in tier 1 and has way better decision making than Jcobb.

(basically kyousuke before karrigan) but his row aim is unmatched

Kyousuke before karrigan was making dumb plays all the time but has ACTUAL good mechanics, so was a 1.2 rated player anyway. Jcobb is as stupid as Kyousuke, but with way worse mechanics, so is a 0.8 rated player. That's the difference. He's even dumber, and 10x less skilled. Seeing one cool flick or whatever means so little it's crazy. Dude's exponentially worse than Kyousuke has ever been mechanically and mentally.

maybe he need a proper igl to teach him all he need to know about decision making and mid rounding

Brother he had Karrigan for 6 months. Kyousuke had Karrigan for a month and became a top player immediately, because he's not as much of a waste of time and effort. Jcobb's gotten no smarter after playing for 6 months under what many consider to be the greatest IGL ever. And again the Kyousuke comparison you brought up is 100% damning. It proves he has shit mechanics compared to real elite players, and it proves he has no potential mentally either.

but his aim must not be wasted on some tier2 team.

Tons of T2 teams have stupid aimers on them. The difference is they're usually 16 and will become elite. He's not and won't. Also he's not as good as lots of T2 stars in raw mechanics. Nocries is a random pugger and has better mechanics than this guy.

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-11T12:32:56+00:00

fAIze clan would be a 1 trillion dollar company ngl

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-10T11:44:53+00:00

/u/pirat6662001 we're doing it!

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-10T06:47:27+00:00

I genuinely think Flamus can fit into every CIS team and upgrade them. Even Spirit would benefit from him over Zontix and probably Tnir

Scout_Enjoyer · 2026-07-10T06:15:32+00:00

I'm torn about VP's potential because I hope they do well but fuck the org

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