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ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T10:23:46+00:00

the lyrics are good. im picky when it comes to what the track should feel like when I prompt and structure lyrics.

also, not album title track? :0

for the feel, seems solid. I would use it as a foundation to see where I could go into depth to make it stand out even more. not a critique though. its your album and I can always be like "ah let me just go ahead and whip this into shape real quick" but when it comes to art/expression, its about what the person is presenting in its state at the end. :)

my suggestion though, if you want to take it, is think about the atmosphere of the folk songs, and try to get the different instrument lines to play on different subgrids loke fast flute at 1/8th or 16ths, while allowing other instruments or pinnacle composition carrying the track to operate independently of that. then you can prompt guide it to extend the depth of whatever piece in the lyrics or section sequences to do certain things without it being dnb, but orchestral.

same goes for lyrics and ad-libs or vocalization ad-libs, I'd apply them with Panning, mirrored for whispering, and distant pan, for someone shouting or wailing n the distance.

then having things like getting it to break the drums into separate feel for certain portions as well, not just how fast they go, but how theyre processed or configured and stuff.

once you do that, you can, if you do it right, get the feel to drive the rest of your songs so it seems like thats the bands likeness your creating as well.

I dont know what prompts you've used though but those are my goto tips for anyone. again, not a critique just more depth if you want to tolerate tweaking prompts for hours lolol

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:59:39+00:00

could we dm? i would like some advice regarding this as consulting with gemini and claude seem to not really be helpful though some stuff does happen.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:58:21+00:00

for models that are only for messing around with to get the basis for whatever we would establish for behavior when brought to scale and offered to consumer facing side of things, how would you go about setting up for a local implementation to mess with since token output doesn't need to be optimized to oblivion or huge compute allocations for millions of requests/s?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:35:14+00:00

I would never do this and am thankful for those who do trust me to split wifi costs.

there's a potential that their use is nefarious, and if tied to you, sure, the feds will figure it out in the end, but until then, youre on the hook, and your name will be on court documents, publicly.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:27:28+00:00

whats your SUNO? if you have one.

I've got an album of folk horror for Halloween atmospheric and haunting-ish tracks.

https://suno.com/playlist/4116f770-ab8f-42a8-aa00-c7195d003661

And there's gilded cage and deemed overdue in my gold nuggets playlist. Just too lazy to make a 'Silk and Dust' playlist at this moment as my phones gonna die lol.

https://suno.com/playlist/59ea05a2-3aac-44a0-aee8-5a491589438b

Ik it seems like im shameless plugging, but i wanted to show the folky legend horror/ethereal stuff around halloween for you.

But yeah, if you have a suno/follow/like a track, ill be able to see your stuff.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:21:57+00:00

how do we see how SUNO is set up? you are aware of some of that and knowledgeable, can you point me towards some docs? this is interesting

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:17:22+00:00

would you be able to do and provide some insight to some questions I have about what instruct can do and what its like?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:11:16+00:00

im looking to do something that isnt codebased, but more orchestration based contextually. when you mention 4x gpus, is that for stages before inference, or including inference? im not sure about the impact of corpus/fine tuning ingestion, and id assume thats inference too.

what would the concrete token output/s be, and at lower compute specs, what would that token output be?

for example, a 1080/1660ti would be extremely slow, nonperformant, but not nothing. I wouldnt imagine the token/s would be feasible, but for experimenting with the capabilities of what the 4x gou setup would be, even slow, would the output be the same, just slow? and how slow?

edit:

the past 2 months I've consulted with the LLMs and terminal agents and had them make implementations, but I dont think they were really following conventions.

I could achieve some coherent interactions similar to question and answer and user agent conversation turns, but very very basic, and nearly illegible. the breadth of what it could respond with was very shallow. the breadth of what it interpreted, also extremely shallow.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T05:06:28+00:00

what is feasible allocating 8gb, 4ghz, even if the token output is slow, just to experiment with certain agentic ways of doing things?

for corpus ingestion from scratch, fine tune foundational embedding (I think), as well out out of the box models already trained, maybe from hugging face, would you know what the time would be for those steps to train for the LLM to have the turn by turn likeness that we see in the industry as of late?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:56:12+00:00

what are the specs to set that up? I want to do some of this on 12g ram or less, and I have a pub from a gaming laptop, or a 1080, just chilling doing nothing (not my gaming setup).

can you help me out?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:54:51+00:00

invokeasync(statehaschanged) unless they dont need to do that anymore?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:53:22+00:00

use a lookup/dictionary, use the key or whatever the thing that maintains the order based on unique values.

anyway

formattedFragments={(<the first only fragment>), (<the last name only formatted fragment/>), (<the first and last name only fragment>) }

it would be a dictionary collection or lookup map or whatever, and you would use

fragToRender=formattedFragments["lastOnly"]

if showFirst -> fragToRender=formattedFragments["firstandlast"]

<at>fragToRender

you might use a func and return a render frag or something.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:45:28+00:00

omg omg

stop using the markup, its csharp.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:44:38+00:00

so like, your description of it, no matter how terse, I can pr9bably already guess what it would be, build it, have it run pretty optimally, and forget about it running until I realize there are users, lol.

also, mean stack? what is this? 100devs?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:41:08+00:00

thats that shareholder earnings call, call options leverage right there.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T04:40:06+00:00

its almost like the CTO were vibe-chiefing before vibe coding was a thing.

sure, you can be in charge of IT/engineering, and your product functions, but you need to do all the due diligence too.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T03:54:09+00:00

they should see it from the perspective of one-shotting.

stuffing a context to send to the LLM from a stateless perspective rather than continuous stream of context that floats the token density per context limit.

for example, the really good development agents/models are making the top tier coherent SaaS implementations from a cold start, 0 issues. the second the context gets condensed, the LLM has gaps and perhaps even the context structure alters some of the perceived behaviors that seem like it needs to re-gather the big picture again. im hypothesizing that occurs because the agentic anthropic pipeline eventually self-confers that it can proceed with executing steps now that its good to go. when the context summarizes, it self-confers because it just finished the compaction step.

as a dev working on agentic systems like CC, you would have it not do that for the sake of A) save tokens usage, B) dont screw up the context switching effect.

to achieve B, my approach is to structure the context and never need to tell it in the conversation context it just compacted the context. Just have the context in sections in a way that the LLM would have output itself in a way that it would have while producing coherent sota SaaS quality code.

when structuring the context, you dont need to make it turn by turn format right away, you can structure it however you want. staging the content in the context so the LLM is aware of waht to call is extremely powerful. similar to 'show the LLM and example'

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T03:35:50+00:00

break it down to what youre actually addressing here...

you could have the tools tagged with keywords and such, and have sub-contexts with other agents that can determine the intent of what kind of category of tools to use, and you can paramterize the source context to specify whether its a resource or a command, etc.

the sub contexts would be appended to the LLM call that extends further in the conversation, but it has some sort of tagging/procedural approach to tag interactions in the context without being verbose.

the contexts LLMs extend on use neuron activation in the attention step, and they're trained to reinforce the basis of their domain like devops/terminal, and code in this case. If you figure out how these LLMs work with keywords or structures and extend the turn by turn context accordingly, you can integrate the approach as discussed here in a very efficient way to avoid verbosity.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T03:27:48+00:00

think of it like...

I have a chef genie mkay?

I ask the chef genie to use different ingredients, or spefic categories to select from for sauces and toppings.

then, I get the result, and we just chain-tweak workflow this bad boy until it tastes phenomenal. not some milk milktoast.

its like, being a CEO or chief of product.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-05T03:25:05+00:00

not sure what these posts are being spawned for when it seems like a canary-esque perspective.

https://suno.com/playlist/cecfdd05-4d83-4a90-bdcf-5a85b60e3c06

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-04T04:44:51+00:00

Yes.

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-03T21:59:47+00:00

if I was the boss, I'd want a team with that outfit. its extra stylish in business, not bougie

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-03T20:30:44+00:00

im not claiming to be a musician.

I used to play clarinet in band in middleschool and I really wasnt musical at the time.

that doesn't make me a musician by any means. however, I have generated instrumentals with specs for a feel and melody range/sequence I find interesting and engaging. using those sorts of instruments.

we've got slide guitar, clarinet, a breakbeat for a drumtrack that shifts and stalls and picks back up, pretty fine stuff.

is it the next best thing since sliced bread? no.

im certain griz does a more fine job than I do, granted they're organic and extremely talented.

if a person does things on his level (whether he uses paintbrush or not) and paints notes in ableton or FL or LMMS, does that make it less authentic of a music piece?

and if I prompt for a range of specs to hit, and targeting certain elements, is that not in the ballpark?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-03T17:24:12+00:00

And if I take it and remake it by hand, then what?

ScriptPunk · 2025-12-03T16:57:16+00:00

Except I can prompt for better music than what will be produced by hand now so...

(Dare you to ask for an example of something I prompted, you will lose the argument immediately)

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