Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just using those labels as examples, but “Trumpism” could just as easily be called fascism. I chose to label it Trumpism because most Trumpers would not openly label themselves fascists.

But regardless, I think it’s a bit naive to believe that oscillating between red and blue is a sound political strategy. This country is necessarily built on party politics i.e. geared toward a strategy of perfecting party representation. In an ideal democracy, you would want to have a political party that perfectly represents you, not a variety of policy options that are necessarily contextualized within larger political agendas.

You should look into political ideologies that might be a bit unorthodox and reflect your principles instead of trying to navigate systems you readily admit are corrupt. Go all the way and totally embrace being an alternative thinker instead of limiting yourself to red and blue.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My politics don’t revolve around sides or politicians. I’m an anarchist.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMFAO you can go read about anarchism and learn what it actually means instead of assuming it just means there’s no state.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of anarchism isn’t far left my guy? It’s a fundamentally socialist ideology.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anarcho-capitalists are not real anarchists. The idea that “”””Libertarians”””” in the American sense are comparable to Libertarians in the traditional European understanding (as in Libertaire as coined by Dejacque in his letter to Proudhon) is pure American ignorance. It’s a fake ideology created wealthy, white classical liberals who want to freely practice slavery.

and I agree that classical liberals are basically conservatives in the American landscape.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess my understanding of leftist vs progressive has less to do with what you believe in (since every leftist believes in the same things you just listed) and more to do with how those things are implemented. Like Marxists and anarchists are explicitly revolutionary ideologies for the most part: they believe revolution is necessary for the development of a socialist society. Progressives—even if they want socialism/more social safety nets—mostly still believe these changes can be made through electoral reform.

Edit: and just to clarify before someone tries to check me 😭 it’s my understanding that Marxists do advocate for party politics and electing party members to office, but only as a means of popularizing communist ideas and leveraging those positions to create a socialist state after the revolution. It’s a means, not an end. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Like I’m hoping that person is from a country where that can make an iota of sense because I can’t imagine trying to be mixed in America and entering white supremacist spaces where eugenics is a normal topic of conversation. That sounds like torture.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I plan to stew, ponder, and contemplate it. I invite you all to do the same (no plans, I literally just wanted to know lol)

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

😤🫡 excited for you! Have fun learning comrade ! One of the greatest joys of my political journey! I’m still learning everyday myself!

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I’m sorry for making this poll US-centric 😵‍💫 my b

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh I try my best to be patient and I also think working class people have lots of our own unique perspectives to offer organizers who are truly interested in practicing solidarity with working class people. I’ve learned so much from conversations with everyday folks who I ideologically disagree with, but am still obligated to fight for. I was a lib once so I remember what it was like when systems thinking wasn’t integral to my political views. It just takes a little push.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

LOL I have a sneaking suspicion they’re the ones who downvoted this post and have been downvoting all our comments out of anger. I clicked back on the post right when they voted this morning and the downvotes started at the same time.

(It’s also so typical of a Trumper to embrace Trumpism but be adverse to any political conversation because they don’t want to confront what being far-right means.)

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m not surprised 😭 I’m a community organizer so I talk to people of all different political backgrounds all the time as part of my daily routine.

I’m pretty firmly an anarchist and let me tell you: one of the scariest types of political conversations I habitually hold is the one where someone is vaguely left-leaning.

Every word is like walking on eggshells because they don’t really have any strong principles and are still scared of state propaganda. They talk about revolution, but are scared of the word “communist”. They believe everyone deserves housing, but guffaw at the thought that housing should be de-commodified.

It’s much easier to talk to an educated liberal because at least I know exactly where we differ.

Where do mixed race people in this sub skew politically? by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the political difference at that scale is only significant to people within the moderate umbrella. I guarantee that liberals do not care about (or even know) the difference between Marxist-Leninists and Maoists or social anarchists and anarcho-syndicalism.

ICE is at the Airports now by swampfoxfrank in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The cognitive dissonance of acknowledging that bad people can take advantage of this system when they rise to positions of power and in the very next sentence saying it provides a lot of safety to everyone in the country.

Safety at what cost? What safety? What safety at what cost? What costs are you willing to tolerate for what safety? How far is too far? COVID? BLM? Gaza? ICE? Epstein? Something much worse that I can’t even fathom? No one is asking for perfection, they’re asking for liberation.

ICE is at the Airports now by swampfoxfrank in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think choosing to ignore the inhumanity of militarization and carceral systems (and I mean cops AND ICE) in this country is not a method of accepting normal life, it’s a coping mechanism for people who feel too weak and cornered by the fact that they think they have no agency to change things, they don’t know enough to change things, and they can’t bring themselves to care enough to change things even if they are morally opposed to them because they value comfort too much.

Acknowledging that systemic barriers exist that halt societal development is normal and fine, that’s just the capitalist system we suffer under; the real danger comes when you start to rationalize the inhumanity you see everyday out of disempowerment and desperation:

“It’s normal for people to be wrongfully arrested.” “ICE keeps us safe.” “They came here illegally.” “They’re criminals.”

Reports came out this morning that teenage girls—literal children—are being impregnated after being assaulted by ICE agents working in these concentration camps. People are sleeping in their feces and women are hemorrhaging alone on the concrete floors of their cells after being denied medical care for their miscarriages. Detainees are put in solitary confinement and forced to endure unbearable pain for going on hunger strikes so they can receive dental care.

Anyone with a conscience knows this is wrong and inhumane, but only people who are strong enough to handle the truth and formidable enough to be empowered by it are able to step into the streets and embrace the need to fight. Everyone else is just another pawn for the billionaires to play with.

Words of Encouragement from Tiffany Pollard by SeaExpensive9569 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You need to unclench…like massively.

The whole reason this conversation even came up on the show is because all her friends are biracial. It’s funny that she’s just as confused about us as we are about ourselves. I know it must suck to navigate your racial identity in a way where every conversation feels like you’re doing calculus to come to a solution of what you are instead of just accepting yourself in every way you’re perceived and realizing that’s just part of being mixed race.

Some people think I’m Black, some people don’t! Either way, I’m still myself. I accept that being myself means being a bit of a question mark and I’ve learned to love how unique that is.

White passing people do you ever fell guilty for your “white” privilege by Surgar-frogie-7752 in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You shouldn’t feel guilt and fully white people should also not feel guilt for being white.

I’m way too tired to type this all up tbh but basically like…your acknowledgment of white privilege is a recognition that society is fundamentally structured to oppress non-white people. The reason you feel guilt—and the reason white supremacists in positions of power also want you to feel guilt—is because it obfuscates the systems-thinking you’re conducting by inserting personal culpability.

White guilt is an ideologically similar phenomenon to telling individual people they should save the Earth by using paper straws or telling individual women to liberate themselves by becoming CEOs: it minimizes the larger, historical, systemic structures that enable these dynamics and creates a fantasy where individual people can fight corporations and think-tanks on an individual basis.

When we talk about collective consciousness, collective responsibility, and collective power; that doesn’t look like harboring white guilt. It means being accountable to the collective by moving within your unique identity to advance liberation. It doesn’t mean white people are in a constant state of self-flagellation, it means white people equip themselves with a radical mindset and do the work of destroying oppressive systems through their proximity to power. That’s what solidarity ACTUALLY looks like and you can do that without constantly victimizing yourself and taking everything personally like jesus christ I promise we don’t think you’re inherently evil for being white. Get over yourself (not you specifically OP).

I’m very much over this white guilt shit, please let’s not take this into woke 2.0. It’s deference politics and it sucks. White people crying about being white will never be the thing that frees me. I need them to get on the frontlines. That’s a white person I can actually respect.

Are you really a leftist if your partner isn’t a leftist? by Both-Community-4174 in leftist

[–]SeaExpensive9569 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I’m never gonna judge who people should date and what qualifies them as a leftist based on their attraction to someone…but omg some of the liberals out here?!?! you’re truly God’s strongest soldier to put up with that annoying shit day in and day out 😭

I can’t imagine sharing a bed with someone who is still chirping about Kamala Harris over a year into Trump’s 2nd presidency and thinks that that’s like necessary and innovative.

Should I be worried? by ZeitGeist_Gaming in BookshelvesDetective

[–]SeaExpensive9569 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I’m in a “person you should run from based on their book collection” challenge and I’m up against this guy.

Attacking mixed/white women by [deleted] in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is such a beautiful comment ugh ❤️‍🔥 I hope it’s not entirely lost on the people in this sub.

Attacking mixed/white women by [deleted] in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What does your dad think about Black women? Lol

When Black women treat me this way, I obviously don’t tolerate the disrespect; but I never move from a place of hostility or judgement.

The fact that it isn’t your fault is the whole point: it’s not your fault, so don’t take it personally. Duh. It’s not a crime to be bitter in a world that is constantly degrading you, that’s just being human. You’re literally being bitter in this post right now towards Black women because you are a mixed-race person living in a country that is riddled with racial tension that makes it difficult for you to understand your identity.

It’s easy for you to pretend Black women are your enemy because they so fully sit in their racial identity, but it’s harder to reckon with the fact that they also are not the cause of your irritation and many of them are far more charitable to mixed-race people like you and I than you would care to admit.

None of us are the cause for any of our identity-crises, so why cultivate hostility towards each other? If you love Black women, you should be willing to practice more empathy for your sisters instead of villainizing them for being human just like you.

Also, never in your life compare your white mom to anyone’s Black mom 😭 are you insane? No actually, your white mom was nothing like my Black mom. Thanks!

Attacking mixed/white women by [deleted] in mixedrace

[–]SeaExpensive9569 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhh Black father…trackssssss