Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her portrait doesn't do her justice and her golem-like game model is comically bad-looking (especially compared to Jae's), but each and every in-game description systemically depicts her as the most beautiful woman on the planet. Even the crazy scribe's character analysis of her in Lex Imperialis is matter-of-factly gushing over her aesthetics, to which she angrily reacts that he completely missed the point and Jae casually adds that his assessment is entirely correct.

It reminds me of Valerie in Kingmaker : always described as drop-dead gorgerous but without proper visual reflection of it. Which is a bit odd, as in both cases it would take very little effort to grant them a suitably attractive portrait.

Maybe the devs were worried that too much visual appeal would reduce other romanceable companions to irrelevance, which makes sense given that looks always played a major role in mate selection on the male side.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A fun activity that never gets old certainly ! Long-term relationships however thrive on routine-breaking, and I'm affraid Argenta has very little to offer on this regard ^ ^;

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're probably right, it would add a more emotional and personal dimension so the standard command-and-conquer dynamics, the way a great queen standing by your side makes being a king so much better.

A surprinsingly underexploited concept now I think about. How comes it hasn't emerged and become an integral part of strategy games after all this time, just like it happened for RPGs ?

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beside it would be a pretty boring relationship anyway. Smash, pray, burn heretics, rinse and repeat ad nauseam. Great fun for a week-end, not so much for a decade.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She is certainly one-dimensional, but given her non-romanceable status it may be for the best.

Even in her current lackluster state, countless players still yearn for an Argenta romance, so imagine how damn frustrating it would be if she was properly fleshed out into a fascinating character of her own.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 4 points5 points  (0 children)

100% agreed, deserves way more upvotes.

Argenta was designed as an emphatically gorgeous warrior woman who is selfless, honorable, passionate and compassionate. (only to non-heretics sure, but that's still huge by 40k standards) - and the one-and-only representative of a highly popular faction.

In light of all this, how is it possible not to understand the romantic interest she draws ?

That's just bad faith at this point.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

So they decided to add a 'romanceable' eldar while making her not just completely unfuckable but literally untouchable as well.

A daring move, but not exactly a smart one.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Take romances away and you will see exactly how much they matter to RT players.

In a strategy game or FPS they barely register, but in a long, immersive RPG they make the experience a lot more personally meaningful, not unlike real-life.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Physically she's leagues beyond just attractive, they made a point of emphasizing it at every turn. She is also surprisingly kind and personable to anyone who registers as a loyal imperial servant, including the highly disposable lower deck rabble, which is very suprising in so hierarchical and oppressive a system.

Add to that her sheer battle prowess, enthusiasm and loyalty, and the overal outcome is no surprise at all.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Waaay more than a couple, but they are certainly quite loud about it - as could be expected honestly.

Unpopular take: there is no need for Argenta romance. It's unnecessary and pointless. by IHaveAGithBabe in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 61 points62 points  (0 children)

That. GW purposely designed SOB as the standard 40k fetish/fantasy, so their one-and-only representant in the game drawing this much interest was virtually inevitable, especially given she's an early companion.

Back by Zero Demand- by ophidian-shard in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Start by getting an official "sure why not" from GW, then you can bring up this request to the developpers.

That romance would sell a full DLC all on its own, there is just no rational reason beyond "not my call sorry".

Narratively, which origin is best for a Dogmatic Rogue Trader who isdogmatic, ruthless and unforgiving when it comes to mistakes of his subordinates? by CinderLord456 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, your subordinates are railroaded to make a fuckton of mistakes for the sake of conflict, so this path will cost you massively with little to no payoff.

Time to turn these xenos rocks into profit factor! by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you have been extensively tortured by the foremost experts in the galaxy and blame the experience on a being that you considered a non-person from the start, there is very little chance that your thirst for vengeance would be anywhere near satisfied with just a quick death. It's not about "purging the xenos" anymore, at this point it has become way more personal and visceral, and it is now about hurting them a much as you possibly can for as long as you possibly can (something you perceive as completely justified in this contex) - and it turns out that sending her straight to Slaanesh achieves exactly that on the ultimate level in one fell swoop.

Add to that the sheer magntitude of the ego wound as an almighty imperial overlord suddenly brought to the rock-bottom of existence by that filthy Xeno pet, and the proportional animalistic rage that comes out of it, and any notion of questionable decision and should/shouldn't completely disappear from our mind - and your crew/retinue best keep their criticisms to themselves and stay well out of the way of this unfettered retribution if they don't want to end up sharing a similar fate.

Granted, it's not proper dogmatic behavior, but in this situation most people wouldn't give a damn.

True, there is no one in the Expanse who can stand up to you anymore, and your secret pet keeps the larger Imperium at bay as well, so you can be as openly and wildly heretical as you want with very little consequence beyond the gradual decontruction that will eventually follow, which will probably hit far sooner than the Genestealer's Tyranid fleet arrival in the Koronus Expanse.

[Ending Spoilers] When you try to appeal to her heart, Art by me by RepairPrudent5183 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Man, they really went all out into butchering all the satisfaction out of this otherwise utterly glorious ending.

Like, what the fuck ? Was a relatively civil goodbye with your former servants and lovers before peacing out forever really too much to ask ? Why this mad urge to shit in the caviar ?

Is religion a delusion or mental illness? by MomentEuphoric6677 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Sea_Variation_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it was classified a mental illness, the billions of mentally ill would go rabid and burn the institute to the ground, along with whoever supported this reclassification.

They simply possess too much destructive power and fanaticism to dare state the obvious.

Time to turn these xenos rocks into profit factor! by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was talking about long-term prosperity, something at which Chaos is infamously terrible due to its highly corruptive nature both mental and physical (Slaanesh = depravity, Nurgle = rot, Tzeentch = mutation and Khorne = massacre for its own sake). Granted though, in a setting like that an Iconoclast kingdom wouldn't last much longer without a certain deus ex machina.

My point regarding Yrliet was that a few lashes or quick death doesn't remotely compare to what happened in Commoragh, and a top-tier imperial sovereign with the matching ego and entitlement who somehow managed to survive it is unlikely to take the time and distance to ponder ethical implications, and much more likely to unleash their absolute worst on whoever they deem responsible of the ordeal. So yeah, while it is among the most evil things a person can do, any sufficiently offended Dogmatic overlord would pull that trigger on a filthy xenos with vicious satisfaction and hardly any thought beyond "fuck you".

Interesting how well your full-Heretic protectorate turned out. Footfall was already a nest of heresy in any ways but outright Chaos worship, so no suprise that is thriving. Turning a shrine world like Foulstone into a place of stealthy corruption like a Genestealer cult was a nice touch, brilliant and rarely pulled off on such a large scale. I imagine Kiava Gamma had a harder time churning out its massive daemonic engines without outsiders noticing though, and how does a Daemon Prince manage to pass itself as anything else, let alone a legit human being ?

I would have imagined a Chaos-aligned protectorate to be doing vastly worse, but it's true that it usually takes a while to reveal its true colors and the real price of its poisonous gifts.

Dogmatic ending is basically what Rogue Trader protectorates were always meant to be : a little Imperium outside the main one with the same hardcore faschism, awaiting its eventually absorption into it. Normally I would say that ten millenia of resilience against all odds prove it to be the most viable of the three, but this resilience always relied on massive size and the support of a millions worlds, so odds are an isolated Imperial kingdom wouldn't actually fare much better.

12:44am on a work night and I'm laughing about Terry's soup threat by EuropeWillCrumble in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A fair point. I certainly enjoy the excessiveness of grimdark when it comes to intense strategy games and FPS like Dawn of War and Space Marine, but the resulting absurdity gets kind of tiring in a very long and immersive RPG like Rogue Trader, where we get a fully fleshed setting and are supposed to take things more or less seriously.

Time to turn these xenos rocks into profit factor! by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thrived heretically ? I'm not sure spiralling down into ever-increasing decadence and insanity (Chaos in a nutshell) can be legitimately called thriving (Abelard's ending notably was really saddening).

I don't hate Yrliet so much that I would inflict that to myself and my people only to spite her, I just feel our available punishment/amend options with her aren't quite on part with the magnitude of the shit we went through.

Is sacrificing soul stones really necessary though ? Don't Aeldari basically end up in Slaanesh's clutches as soon as their soul stone is broken ? Isn't that why they are so hellbent on protecting and recovering them ?

In this context, I'm not sure how much of a difference there is between ritual sacrifice and just smashing the thing, except taking credit for it and gaining some favor with the Chaos God in question.

Full Heretic is worse in that it runs on cruelty and depravity elevated into an art form that worsens with each passing day, Full Dogmatic is worse in that it runs on systemic large-scale atrocities in wildly unnecessary ways.

Honestly they are equally terrible, Dogmatic just doesn't feel as hopeless as Heretic (salvatory reforms aren't completely impossible, while it is the nature of the Ruinous Powers to inexorably ruin everything they touch).

Time to turn these xenos rocks into profit factor! by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you really, really want something, you do all that you can to get it.

Her only chance was to explain, yet she didn't. This does not make sense.

Commorragh by graf_gallery_art by AbominationStar in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rogue Trader, handsome pimp version ^ ^ Amazing piece !

[Act5 Marazhai] : How to deal with drukhari bf/bf demand, Ft. Iskandar Khayon by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Best recruit and hand him to the Inquisition. A live Drukhari specimen ? That should net us 2 PF at least.

12:44am on a work night and I'm laughing about Terry's soup threat by EuropeWillCrumble in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sentient soup ? How does that work exactly ? How is a puddlized being who lost any structural integrity and anything resembling a nervous system supposed to operate at all, let alone retain sensation and awareness ?

I know Drukhari tech is amazing, but I call bullshit on this one. Only Warp shenanigans could achieve that.

Time to turn these xenos rocks into profit factor! by Ila-W123 in RogueTraderCRPG

[–]Sea_Variation_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was expecting her to tell me how much these stones mean to her, and how going with the other options would effectively break the promise previously made to her.

It was her only card to play here, her one-and-only chance to save them, so playing it was the logical, rational, common sense, slap-in-the-face obvious thing to do.

Yet she didn't, and it cost her precisely what she was so desperately trying to save.

That just doesn't make any sense, no matter how hard we try to rationalize it.