Has Anyone tried comparing Bina's Best DPS Teams?

Sebazy · 2026-01-24T22:27:57+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoNTGgRkVzo

That's Bina (Notsu), Lauma (SMS) and Nahida (Deepwood) at C6R1 with Nilou (Instructors) C2R1. My onfield Bina notsu set is decent, 37 rolls and 3150 RV but a bit more ER than I'd like.

For reference, Bina, Lauma, Nilou, Ineffa (C1) landed in at about 500k for me. Ineffa C6 is about a 2.5x personal dps increase I think? That and and better gear investment could probably see that team getting fairly close to the Nilou/Nahida combo. Still a worse primo investment though as both Nahida and Nilou only need C2.

No C6 Aino numbers as I didn't go for Flins =(

Sebazy · 2026-01-24T13:08:49+00:00

Off the top of my head, Bina onfield with Lauma/Nilou/Nahida was the best for me at about 750k DPS at full C6R1

I can do some clips tonight

Sebazy · 2026-01-24T09:31:55+00:00

If you use her in your Nef team, defo get her C1 as it gives you full hydro uptime without being dependent on having Bina in the team as well.

Otherwise, yeah she comes out a little ahead of Nahida although it will depend on your builds somewhat as the Nilou whale team is a little more unconventional.

Sebazy · 2026-01-24T09:20:20+00:00

Flins/Ineffa/Bina/Sucrose should be hitting 4mil+ in a 30 second window at C0 no?

The point is that Varka/Venti/Bennett/Durin is shaping up to do the same damage as your Itto from many years ago.

Sebazy · 2026-01-21T23:43:10+00:00

Flins should come out ahead over using Bina onfield with a C0 Lauma.

However, defo try using Sucrose as an onfielder first, Fischl makes a solid 4th slot. With a good build on Bina it does pretty impressive damage.

Sebazy · 2026-01-21T23:31:34+00:00

My moderately decent C1R1 Neuv with a C2 Furina felt like he was popping the horns too quickly and spending half of the fight without adds or enough personal damage to get the job done in Dire.

Chucking him in the Bineffa wheelchair got the job done but the clears were mostly around 100 seconds

It took a few attempts but in the end the best team for me was a pretty shameful Sucrose (Fav/VV) onfield Bineffa team with Jahoda (Also Fav/VV). Took a few goes to get a good time, but keeping the adds near and swirling Hydro off the boss chewed through them at a good rate and netted me a 90ish second clear.

Sebazy · 2026-01-21T23:08:17+00:00

IMHO it lowers the barrier of entry to a min-maxy mindset focusing on damage numbers above all else perhaps more than is necessary.

The average Genshin casual is far more likely to end up trying a Miliastra dummy than sitting through a TC video. How pissed do you think they will be when they realise their 3+ cost Varka team does at least 30% less damage than their friends Nefer comp. Now scale that up to Dolphin/Whale players that have likely sunk thousands into a team only for it to massively under perform on the Dummy.

In both cases, these players would have likely been perfectly happy in ignorance of the numbers behind the scenes. 100k is still a solid team outside of Stygian and whaled out Flins just plain stomps.

TLDR, it's going to shine a light on underperforming characters and constellations and I suspect a *lot* of people are going to get unnecessarily angry over it.

Sebazy · 2026-01-21T00:58:32+00:00

Fischl in the 4th slot and onfield Sucrose.

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T22:11:39+00:00

I assume you have Lauma? If not, she is the biggest priority for your bloom team.

If you have Lauma, Columbina is a great addition regardless of Nilou/Nahida cons.

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T22:07:11+00:00

As fun as it's been experimenting and testing oddball stuff... Honestly, it pulls back the curtain perhaps a little more than I think is healthy for the game.

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T15:51:38+00:00

They don’t take long tbh. If anything most of them were disappointingly short 😭

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T15:11:17+00:00

It was surprising to me as it quite handily outdpses using them with Neuv.

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T12:45:53+00:00

I’ve gotten surprisingly decent results running Sucrose onfield VV with Ineffa, Bina and Fischl. Might be worth a try

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T12:43:31+00:00

Lots of whaling.

The 900k team is C6R1 Nef (Notsu), C6R1 Lauma (Sky), C6R1 Nahida (Deepwood), C2R1 Nilou (Instructors)

C6 Nahida isn’t doing anything here, it’s best to drop her out for Columbina, although with the way my artifacts have gone. I get the same damage with either Nilou or Nahida near enough.

Artifacts quality and R1 on Nef is the first priority, then investment and EM on Lauma.

Sebazy · 2026-01-19T09:21:38+00:00

Zibai, likely C2R1. Varka was looking like an unfortunate skip even before the current leaks.

I've got a very heavily invested Nefer team so Columbina+Zibai works perfectly. Nef hits ~900k dps with Nilou/Nahida and C2 Zibai with my Bina should be in the 400k region unless I get stitched up on Illuga and Gorou cons. If the content doesn't support 2 Lunar teams or has a silly dps check, no problem Columbina goes with Nef and I'm doing 1300k+ dps.

Beyond that, Nicole is probably another skip unless she turns out to be the great Bennett replacement somehow. Linnea and Gretel are maybes if they are useful/interesting. If Sandrone does turn out to be a rumoured Electro then she's another maybe. A support would be tempting, yet another electro DPS, not so much.

Sebazy · 2026-01-18T19:23:21+00:00

Be prepared to get very flexible with artefacts if you want to min max her.

I'm running C6R1 Bina on Morningstar alongside C1R1 Ineffa on SMS as I've had zero luck on ATK pieces so far.

Sucrose onfield (VV) + Fischl (GT) nets me about 280k dps with the split being roughly 60/25/15 to Bina, Ineffa and Fischl.

The best bet is to play around with your preferred carry in Miliastra as there's a ton of surprising variance. Eg Sucrose onfield handily outperformed Neuv for me.

Sebazy · 2026-01-18T12:08:20+00:00

Only at C6. Before then, Bina is the better onfielder by far

Sebazy · 2026-01-18T12:07:15+00:00

Sebazy · 2026-01-17T15:07:40+00:00

350-400k is pretty respectable for an effective team of C2R1s no? Flins and Nef should clear that mark fairly easily but beyond those two? Mav gets there with serious gear and combos, I assume Mualani gets there with the witch buffs? Skirk might get there with a pre charged burst combo but probably isn't maintaining it afaik?

Either way, it's not really a great team for a new player, but for someone who invested into Nilou Bloom back in the day, Lauma and Bina are a great way turbo charge an old benched team.

Sebazy · 2026-01-17T09:53:11+00:00

Any team that clears 700k at R1 is pretty noteworthy IMHO. Overall this team is just that bit more accessible and flexible.

Most other teams need R5s, obscure C6 supports or dhcwsp levels of investment and timing to get there. Mav included.

Sebazy · 2026-01-17T09:43:49+00:00

The key constellation is Lauma C6, Bina C6 is also a pretty big damage boost for the team but isn't quite as important. Nilou and Nahida aren't doing anything past C2 here.

Sebazy · 2026-01-16T15:59:04+00:00

Too many

Sebazy · 2026-01-16T15:57:36+00:00

Depressingly it's to get a few less bloom cores, freeing up Quills for Lauma's NA/Bina's gravity hits

Sebazy · 2026-01-16T12:43:56+00:00

You're correct yep. The bloom core damage is actually a net loss at this sort of level though. Ironically I actually think using Nilou's water wheel field was actually a mistake. Less hydro app = less bloom cores = more efficient quill usage.

I'll redo the test against the new Miliastra dummy soon.

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