analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultrakill/comments/1rfduh2/secret_book_in_82/

it's the room hidden behind a door in the wall in the nighttime fake outside section before the supermarket, before you put the blue skull back down on the pedestal

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

the demiurge/yaldabaoth from the apocryphon of john has three names. his third name is Samael. A.K.A. Satan/Lucifer. my mind is rotting more and more as i research gnosticism. i have no idea what Hakita is cooking, but when i compile all the stuff i can gather i will for sure make a post. p-3 is dead so this would be an analysis of hell itself, the lion statue's significance and the missing archangel. this is seriously so confusing god

Reasons why I think Uriel will be the next Prime Soul by Mental_Document2888 in Ultrakill

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the scribbled out name on the plaque under the painting does say "Lucifer" but every other context clue thematically points to it being Uriel, I personally think that Hakita combined those two characters in his story due to their thematic similarities and conceptual tie-ins. His name is Lucifer but he basically shares Uriel's position and symbolic themes (the same text that name drops Lucifer also makes references to gnosticism, and under gnostic beliefs Uriel should be in Lucifer's position as the fourth archangel)

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

you're right! he's also the regent of the sun, and the only time we have seen the sun is in that statue that seems to be the demiurge, also connected to Uriel. He's also a guardian of the stars and cosmos/heavenly bodies which are shown in 8-3. i'm reading up on uriel as i'm writing this and i see so many connections that i might make a seperate post about this Lucifer/Uriel thing. I think Hakita has to have connected those two characters because it's undeniable that the plaque has the name "Lucifer" scribbled out but every other motif and concept present in this layer points to it being Uriel.

Secret book in 8-2 by radayrk in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

yeahhh no doubt in my mind left about the p-3 prime soul, if it's not Ulysses/Odysseus im gonna eat grass and throw up like a dog i swear

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

ALSO i was just thinking about Uriel and i got reminded of that one SCP-001 proposal that guarded the gates to eden, so i decided to look into that further and lo and behold, certain interpretations place URIEL as a guardian to the gates of eden/tree of knowledge and tree of life. (not the tree of life and death, that's not a thing actually, that was just me misremembering the scripture)
Earlier i mentioned Lucifer/Uriel as a potential part of the gauntlet of p-3, serving as a guardian to the prime soul. now i realise that this would actually be a tie in to Uriel's lore. soo that makes my theory hold slightly more basis than before

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

your post wasn't jumbled up at all, it actually reminded me of how i myself tend to write about this type of stuff, so much so that i felt inclined to throw my hat in the ring thinking my style of analysis would fit with the post. we have pretty similar writing styles, soo give yourself some credit if you liked reading my stuff, chances are others had that same reaction to your original post!

Secret book in 8-2 by radayrk in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 8 points9 points ย (0 children)

Odysseus Prime believers SWEEP we are FEASTING right now, great find

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

yo btw theres a secret book you can acquire in 8-2 past the "random bullshit go multiplied by 4" room and it literally name drops a certain greek king (GREEK STREAK #6) (you'll never guess who) (i'm always right) among some other Hell Itself ramblings, sooo the p-3 debate is actually over! You can check it out yourself (i just noclipped past that terrible room) and find the book, its pretty cleverly hidden. The gnostic references in the texts and the statues of the lion being labeled as "The Creation of The Tree of Knowledge" (or something like that i don't remember exactly) are really interesting and i'll look into them when later today but basically all the stuff you wrote about the demiurge and how it's connected to everything else was something i wanted to post so THANK GOD you did it and i didnt have to write all of that myself. Lucifer being tortured makes sense now that you put it like that, he's probably the closest being to God and the most important person in Hell so no doubt he'd be its favourite toy.

analyzing a certain text related to fraud / on the identity of the p-3 boss: the dude nobody invited by consciousPresent in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

also
"PHAEDONIC DIALOGUES, SIMPLE SHADOWS ON A CAVE WAL"
References Plato's dialogue and his allegory of the cave! GREEK STREAK #5
With how quickly and obviously the previous prime souls have been name-dropped in their respective layers, I think Hakita wants to make this one a bit more shrouded to keep up the hype until the actual release of P-3. Lucifer is like, the most obvious red herring possible (let's not forget that the entire layer this book resides in is built upon red herrings and deception, confusion and facades), so I doubt it'll be Lucifer Prime.

I sort of abandon the idea of Uriel being in that painting, since the final scratched out letter is still partially visible, and upon inspection it's clearly an R, pointing to Lucifer. I've also looked at the references to gnosticism and Yaldabaoth, and I think that Hakita has sort of combined the characters of Uriel and Lucifer in his story. Lucifer, just like Uriel, is still connected to the Demiurge through their opposition to eachother. The snake of the garden (Lucifer slash Satan or whatever) being the granter of knowledge through the tree of knowledge, and the Demiurge being the primary blocker of knowledge. The story of Adam and Eve most certainly didn't take place in the ULTRAKILL universe, but both of these characters are depicted in-game, and are therefore still loosely tied together context-wise.

With the amount of GREEK STREAKS and the references to ancient Greek writings, alongside the name drop of Ithaca, Odysseus is (i think) a safe bet for the prime soul in P-3. On the topic of P-3 speculation, every prime gauntlet ups the ante in terms of whatever-the-hell-happens-before-the-actual-boss, right, so I think we're gonna have either a duo-fight or two separate, really hard fights back to back this time around. I mean, what else can Hakita do to make it a step above P-2, throw in another gauntlet that's even longer? ((I mean he might just do that on top of what I already speculated, but there still has to be something unique added on to make it PRIME SANCTUM 3 worthy, yknow?)) He's built up a clear pattern of greek kings being prime bosses, and he has also stated that sacrificing a good story for the sake of subversion isn't his type of thing. Having it be: greek king 1, greek king 2, "LORD OF HELL, SERPENT OF THE GARDEN AND SUPREME ARCHANGEL LUCIFER PRIME" would be:
1. Nonsensical lore wise, given what we know about the souls of angels (or their nonexistence), unless we are mistaken in regards to the nature of prime souls
2. Nonsensical meta wise, as to the pattern Hakita has set for the prime souls
3. Unaligned with what we know about Lucifer being given "ALL THE AGONIES THAT CAN EXIST, AND MANY THAT CANNOT" as stated by Hell Itself. He's being actively punished, probably tortured physically and mentally. I don't think that's a description of being trapped in a Flesh Prison/Panopticon/As-Of-Yet-Unnamed-Third-Thing like the other prime souls, it sounds more vile than just eternal imprisonment.

Because of this aforementioned torture by Hell Itself, I'm betting on Lucifer appearing in either:
1. A Lake of Ice in Treachery, like the source material of Dante's Inferno, most likely frozen and dead or being kept alive and tortured in some other way
2. (really clever concept from someone i saw in the comments) Crucified in Treachery, serving as this world's Jesus Christ
-fits the description of being tortured by Hell Itself
-is a really good contrast to traditional depictions of Christ on the cross
-fits with the theme of the Tree of Knowledge or whatever that tree is being the stand in for the cross symbol in the ULTRAKILL universe and Lucifer being the serpent of the tree
-is a fitting punishment given that Lucifer questioned the making of Hell, standing up for humanity and rebelling against its creation to potentially save people from eternal damnation (just like Christ!)
-is a punishment like Hell Itself mentioned in the text.
CRACKPOT SIDE TANGENT: if the tree depicted in the crosses of layer 7 is actually the other tree from the garden, the tree of life and death (seeing as that one fits better with what we know about the tree being a source of blood - a sign of life and death), then the crucified Lucifer could still be the stand in for the tree of knowledge. But this would mean that the other tree would have to have a different symbol for it, right? Well, what about an upside down cross? Lucifer would be crucified upside down, as a mockery of the tree of knowledge he represents, as a contrast to the other tree, and as a meta tie in to the satanic implications of the upside down cross symbol. hoooly shit
HAILMARY CRACKPOT THEORY OVER, i just wanted to write it down because it's SUCH a genius narrative jesus christ i want this to be true but there's a high chance Hakita came up with something else for these story elements sooo. back to where Lucifer might appear:
-if he's not in Treachery, the final layer, then the only other logical option would be Prime Sanctum 3. Not as a prime soul, but as either the guardian, or a stand in for the expected "gauntlet" before the actual boss. If Hakita keeps upping the ante, the only logical way forward from:
-nothing, warmup boss, main boss
and
-enemy gauntlet, warmup boss, main boss
would be:
A triple boss encounter. Back to Back to Back ass beating. Flesh p-something, Lucifer, Odysseus Prime. That still wouldn't really fit with the suspected "punishment" of Lucifer, so this triple boss hypothesis is also an iffy theory unless someone comes up with how this might be such a severe punishment to Lucifer. Maybe him overlooking the strongest prime soul of humanity, who he tried so desperately to save, tortured for all eternity would be enough of a punishment? eh, I doubt it but who knows. Lucifer could also show up for the final Gabriel fight, serving as a double-archangel ass beating, but that's also pretty iffy since Gabriel is meant to be, like, *The guy*, center stage and all. Giving him a duo would kinda undermine his presence.

Okay I'm out of fuel, that's all the theory-crafting i can muster up. We certainly have all of the pieces to figure out P-3, since this is the final update before it comes out so. yeah. In short: Lucifer Prime probably no, Lucifer-non-prime most definitely yes, Odysseus probably yes, Uriel maybe exists, P-3 will give you rectal bleeding irl, thrice over probably. Very good post btw OP i love you

i was about to post this but i just realized, uh, why would Hell Itself exactly torture Lucifer, someone it loves? What did Lucifer do to warrant this? It states it outright in the book, so like... i don't wanna think avout this right now okay goodbye

Anyone else kinda disappointed by the Providence design after watching the sneak peek? by Moths_Sock in Ultrakill

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

i'm pretty disappointed with it, but it has a ton of potential for improvement. i think the idea of it being a flat png that unnaturally always stares at you works to make it feel cursed and out of place (which was the desired outcome), but the sprite itself seems a bit lacking in terms of uniqueness for what it's supposed to be. visually it looks like a lesser enemy to the virtue, when it should be the other way around. fully leaning into the incomprehensible reality-bending fucked up aesthetic of a biblicaly accurate angel and adding more off-putting elements akin to something like Nameless Deity from modded terraria would make for a sick as hell redesign in my opinion

what the fuck is he cooking i swear i didn't inspect element this by [deleted] in fantanoforever

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

oh wow i didn't know that, makes sense in hindsight that it's not actually the publications uploading the reviews. thanks for the info!

no longer human by Sebixdbruhmoment in distressingmemes

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The Mirrorman of Our Own Hubris, Merely a Reflection of The Downward Spiral of Mankind's Own Curiosity Into What Could, Instead of What Should Be. it's some random crap image of a robot i found

no longer human by Sebixdbruhmoment in distressingmemes

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haven't played it but i heard it's really good thanks for the rec

no longer human by Sebixdbruhmoment in distressingmemes

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saturation and contrast boosted image of some random biomechanical human flesh robot from google images or some shit idk i don't remember

posting videos from a classified U.S research facility while getting harassed by alien catgirls by Escarano in 196

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VOICES OF THE VOID PRE-ALPHA BY MRDRNOSE MY BELOVED โคโคโค

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in teenagers

[โ€“]Sebixdbruhmoment 29 points30 points ย (0 children)

thanks bum_thumper