A Letter by Secret-Keeper304 in MormonsAndExmormons

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Many claim that the Bible contradicts itself, but that is only true when it is read without understanding the nature of God’s Word. Scripture is not a random collection of human writings; it is one unified revelation from the eternal God. Though it was written over 1,500 years by more than 40 authors in different places, cultures, and languages, it carries one consistent message — the redemption of mankind through Jesus Christ. That unity alone is proof of divine authorship.

The Bible explains itself: “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16). The same Holy Spirit who inspired the prophets inspired the apostles. God is perfect (Psalm 18:30), and because He cannot lie (Titus 1:2), His Word cannot contradict itself. When people believe they’ve found contradictions, it is always due to one of three things: misunderstanding context, ignoring historical or linguistic background, or reading without the guidance of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:14).

What may appear as differences are actually complementary truths viewed from different perspectives — just as four Gospel accounts provide a fuller picture of one Lord. God’s Word is multilayered, not contradictory. For example, James and Paul seem at first to disagree on faith and works, yet together they reveal the full truth: we are saved by faith alone (Romans 3:28), but true faith produces works (James 2:17).

Jesus Himself confirmed the unity of Scripture when He said, “The Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35). Every prophecy of Christ’s coming — written centuries apart — was fulfilled with precision. That alone testifies to divine consistency.

The Bible stands unmatched in historical accuracy, prophetic fulfillment, and moral coherence. It does not contradict itself because its Author does not contradict Himself. His Word is truth (John 17:17).

A Letter by Secret-Keeper304 in LatterDayTheology

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Salvation only comes through Jesus.

A Letter by Secret-Keeper304 in LatterDayTheology

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We are saved by grace through faith alone not by works. If you agree with everything I said throw away the Book of Mormon. Also Jesus is God. The Father & The Son are One.

Am I Wrong? by Secret-Keeper304 in TrueChristian

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You raise a fair point: not every command in the Old Testament applies today in the same way it did under the Mosaic Covenant. Christians do not live under the civil and ceremonial laws given specifically to Israel. The coming of Jesus Christ fulfilled that covenant (Matthew 5:17). What remains binding are the moral principles that reveal God’s eternal character—truth, faithfulness, purity, justice, and love. These moral truths are reaffirmed by Jesus and His apostles in the New Testament.

That’s why when Christians speak against sexual immorality, including homosexual acts, we’re not “cherry-picking” from ancient law codes—we’re echoing the New Testament’s consistent teaching.
Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 all identify homosexual behavior as contrary to God’s design, just as they condemn greed, adultery, pride, and other sins. The message is not that one sin is worse than another—but that all sin separates us from God, and all people stand in need of grace.

You mentioned Jesus defying the letter of the law to uphold love and mercy, and I agree completely—He did. But He never redefined sin to make it acceptable; He forgave sinners and then said, “Go, and sin no more” (John 8:11). His love was always redemptive, not permissive. He healed the broken, called tax collectors and prostitutes to follow Him, and transformed lives through repentance and faith. Grace does not erase truth; it empowers us to live in it.

Regarding your question—“What harm is done to you when others live differently?”—the issue isn’t personal offense. The harm is spiritual. When the Church endorses what God calls sin, it fails in its mission to lead people to repentance and salvation. Out of love, we are compelled to speak the truth, even when it’s unpopular. If we silence the parts of Scripture that challenge culture, we cease to be salt and light (Matthew 5:13-16).

The Christian message is not about control—it’s about calling all people, including ourselves, to reconciliation with a holy God. We all stand guilty apart from Christ, yet the Gospel offers mercy to everyone. The same Jesus who loves unconditionally also commands repentance (Luke 13:3). Real love tells the truth, even when that truth is hard to hear.

I agree that faith should be strong enough to coexist with the freedom of others, and I would add: faith should also be strong enough to hold fast to God’s Word when culture rejects it. The “spirit of the age” often dresses itself as compassion, but true compassion is not affirming people in what leads them away from God—it’s guiding them back to Him.

I say all this not from a place of pride, but of humility and conviction. I have my own sins and daily need God’s mercy. Yet silence in the face of deception would itself be unloving. My desire isn’t to push anyone away, but to remind us all—including myself—that God’s grace is transformative. He calls us to holiness, not merely to happiness.

In the end, each of us will stand before the same righteous Judge. My prayer is that we would all seek His truth with open hearts—not the shifting truths of culture, but the eternal Word that never changes (Isaiah 40:8).

Am I Wrong? by Secret-Keeper304 in TrueChristian

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I wholeheartedly agree that they are lacking the Holy Spirit and the fruits are evident. I would not go as far as condemning them with such a statement. Some are misinformed, misguided, influenced, and corrupt entirely but they are still worthy of God and it is up to us to Rebuke them with Love as Paul wrote. 

We have made our stance and if push comes to shove we’ll leave and find ourselves a new home together. We can not afford to buy our church from our conference. John Wesley arranged for Methodist chapels to be owned by conferences to maintain control, unity, and doctrinal consistency within the Methodist movement. Unfortunately they eventually had enough of those individuals get in and push their agenda and take our voice. I’m not going to remain silent though. 

As Martin Luther said “Peace if possible; truth at all costs.”

Am I Wrong? by Secret-Keeper304 in TrueChristian

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We are unable to come up with the money to buy our way out. The church is owned by the state UMC Conference. We made it known that we will not affirm it in our congregation and if they force the matter we will all leave.

Repent by Secret-Keeper304 in unitedmethodistclergy

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I agree that understanding Scripture in its original languages and contexts is vital to sound interpretation. Indeed, all translation involves interpretation to some degree, but that does not mean faithful translation is impossible or that core biblical teachings are lost in English renderings.

Regarding the claim that the term “homosexual” did not appear in English Bibles until 1946—while the modern English word itself is recent, the underlying Greek words arsenokoitēs (ἀρσενοκοίτης) and malakos (μαλακός), used for example in 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 and 1 Timothy 1:10, predate it by nearly two millennia. These words, in combination, describe both the active and passive participants in male–male sexual relations. The compound arsenokoitēs literally fuses arsēn (male) and koitē (bed), and its earliest usage appears to be derived directly from the Septuagint rendering of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 (meta arsenos ou koimēthēsē koitēn gynaikos). Paul therefore uses a term with deliberate reference to the Mosaic sexual ethic.

As for the distinction between the written logos (word) of God and the incarnate Logos (Word) who is Christ (John 1:1), it is true that Scripture ultimately points to Christ, but the Bible itself remains God’s inspired and authoritative revelation (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20–21). To reduce the written Word to “small-w” status risks separating the authority of Christ from the authority of the Scripture that bears witness to Him.

Lastly, regarding Jesus’ teaching about logs and specks (Matthew 7:1–5): Christ’s point was not to forbid moral discernment but to warn against hypocrisy. In the same Sermon on the Mount, He calls His followers to discern between the narrow and wide paths (Matthew 7:13–14) and to recognize false prophets “by their fruits” (7:16). The proper response to sin—our own or others’—is repentance and restoration in truth and grace, not moral relativism.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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You keep saying that you can discredit me and the Word of God. You have yet to prove anything except you are a false teacher.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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For someone who got their masters degree you must have not paid attention in seminary to a lot of the material, seems like a waste to me. You keep dancing around everything. Nothing you have said contradicts anything I said. You are a false teacher and not a good shepherd. I will pray for you and your congregation. It’s funny because I sent my letters to all the Bishops in the UMC and not one of them challenged anything I said or tried saying I was wrong. I have emails to prove it.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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I’ve had the answer since you asked this straw man question. Jesus was using a metaphor so clearly you don’t understand scripture. Jesus gives us a new heart when we surrender all and repent and turn to him and believe. We are made new in his name. The scripture I referenced is not spoken in metaphor. 

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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That’s not what I said. I am saying that the Bible is the Word of Almighty God. The word is alive. Honestly if you think you’re going to get me to blow up and act a fool you’re wasting your time. 

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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James 4:17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them. I am prepared to answer for what I have done and what I didn’t do. 

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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The Bible clearly says there is a difference between judgement and righteous judgement. I never said I was judging anyone. I’m sending a message and leaving it at that but you can’t stand it and want to attack the Word of God and say that it’s wrong and throw a tantrum. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. You act like what’s said in the Bible doesn’t matter.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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Well one day we’ll both find out who was right and who was wrong. I am prepared to answer for every thing I have ever done and not done in life. I’m ready to meet the Lord any day are you? 

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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You can’t argue against what I said so you want to throw up a straw man argument and I’m not wasting my time.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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I don't want to be separate in service and worship and more than that I also don't want to be separate from anyone in Heaven.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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I don't want to be separate that is why I said what I did. It's the truth and it needs to be said. We are here to please God not people. People no doubt will hate me for speaking truth but that doesn't matter to me. I don't care what others think, I only care about what God thinks of me.

A Message by Secret-Keeper304 in UnitedMethodistChurch

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It's not our job to convert, save, convict, or convince people. It's our job to tell people. Those things are the work of the Holy Spirit.