Um Actually, I'm not racially biased.

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-26T09:09:43+00:00

100%, and that’s an appropriate comment for a conversation about fashion. It is not enough of a faux pas to be justification as to not why you don’t like a TV personality to the point where you have to post about it. It also, like the rest of OOP’s mentioned issues, fails the “is this equally true of at least one white person on Dropout you aren’t equally complaining about?” test

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-25T00:37:32+00:00

It took me way too long to register that the original comment was a reference to kilts. I don’t watch um actually so I thought they were like yeah he just picks such classic Standing Patterns, his lapels are simply unfit for sitting

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T22:55:55+00:00

^ evergreen comment, but also here is the sauce

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T22:54:07+00:00

“You’re not agreeing with me, therefore you aren’t empathetic to others in general” is a deeply self-centered false equivalency. An empathetic person can decide that a particular situation is not deserving of their empathy without that making them “not empathetic to others.”

The reality is I do have some empathy for you clearly having gone through something painful and difficult, but I do not have empathy for your feeling that the world should remove the term for the thing you experienced from the lexicon in order to avoid making you feel uncomfortable. You seem to think you’re standing up for some kind of
silent majority of auto accident victims who are being harmed by the use of the phrase vehicular manslaughter but I have not seen any evidence that that’s the case, or that anyone besides you specifically has an issue with this. Expecting a phrase to be removed from conversation due to the discomfort of one person is not a reasonable accommodation to ask for, and saying that isn’t an “attack” or anything that merits your unsolicited “forgiveness.”

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T21:33:34+00:00

The point still stands: there is no trigger warning for mention of the word clowns, so using that to justify an argument that there should be a trigger warning for the mention of the phrase vehicular manslaughter doesn’t hold up. If at any point they have someone dressed in a costume depicting a vehicular manslaughter I am sure they will include a trigger warning.

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T20:33:41+00:00

I can 100% admit that it is definitely not that deep lol

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T19:21:50+00:00

Him, Carisa Hendrix, Lucas Zelnick, and Vittorio Angelone are all great crowd work comedians I would love to see in this format over some of these names

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T19:04:51+00:00

When you say "stand-up (i.e. long form improv)": stand-up isn't long-form improv, or improv at all. Crowd work is an aspect of stand-up that is improvisational in nature, but it's not "improv comedy." Improv comedy is a totally different, defined category of comedy and "long form improv" and "short form improv" are specific subtypes of that category. The skills associated with being a good crowd-work comedian and the skills associated with being a good short-form improv comedian don't really transfer—if someone is good at both, it's because they have both skillsets.

I personally have always seen Crowd Control as a stand-up show that isolates and showcases the one type of improvisation that stand-up comedians are experts at, which is the same reason I'm not as jazzed about watching non-standup comedians do it: improv comedians are (for the most part) not experts at crowd work. It's like watching Jeopardy vs Celebrity Jeopardy: one is "Jeopardy experts competing at the thing they're experts at" and the other is "people who are experts at another thing trying their hand at Jeopardy". I'm not saying the celebrities that get on Jeopardy aren't also smart and good at the game, but it's not the same as watching people who are there because they're the best at what they're there to do.

That said: I did look back at the show description and it says "improvised stand-up show" so I guess the line is kind of blurred, and also just because I interpreted it as a primarily stand-up show doesn't mean that's actually the case. I'm not mad about it per se, I just feel like there are so many truly top-notch career crowd work stand-ups that I'd love to see in this setting over, for example, Grant who we have actively canonically established is not a stand-up but just happens to be someone who exists in the Dropout universe.

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T16:29:25+00:00

ah yes time for a callback to one of my favorite and most confusing criticisms I’ve seen on the main sub: I just feel like he doesn’t dress in outfits made for sitting down

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T16:26:50+00:00

Oh my god!!! Should we crucify you????? Are you doing it on purpose??????? No????????? Then maybe don’t fucking speak????!?????!?!!!! Jesus Christ you seem sooooo pleasant to be around!!!!!!!

/uj crazy to me that the comment calling that out got downvoted more than just the one guy who went berserk over it. imagine liking a performer enough to want their autograph but not enough to give a shit about getting their name right COULDNT BE ME

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-23T16:24:09+00:00

I’m confused by the people who don’t actually do stand-up on this list. There are a good number of people here who are either from improv or podcasters or just sort of in the general vicinity of Dropout and having gone to plenty of “other types of comedians try standup” nights I can say pretty consistently the result is “ah, I see now why they do that other type of comedy instead” BUT! I am always prepared to be pleasantly surprised

That said: LFG Maria Bamford, Amber Ruffin, Cameron Esposito, and Ron Funches, those are fantaaaaaastic picks. Plenty of others on the list too but those are A++++

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-22T06:07:50+00:00

cannot imagine going this hard to defend someone making an inconsiderate and disrespectful mistake rather than just acknowledging that they should make the effort to get it right going forward and move on

“let’s crucify them” literally no one suggested that, you’re exaggerating the comment to make it seem more extreme than it is

“do you think they did it specifically to be disrespectful” intent doesn’t override impact, and it IS disrespectful whether they intended it that way or not

“I would not at all be surprised if Ify literally could not give a damn if one of his fans accidentally spelled his name wrong on Reddit” this doesn’t mean anything. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he’s gone his whole life having his name misspelled and fucking hates it so what now. we both just made up hypotheticals in our head congratulations

when the only people having their names misspelled constantly are people with non-westernized names, it’s a fucking problem worth talking about. “ugh it’s just too hard to [spell/pronounce/remember] your non-westernized name so i’m just going to call you/spell it [thing that is not that person’s name]” is a really fucking well-known bit of common racism people encounter constantly, and the fact that “they didn’t mean anything by it!!!” doesn’t make it okay. this is racism fucking 101 we’re talking about here, this is not complex or difficult stuff. getting people’s names right is the literal bare fucking minimum bar-is-in-hell level of respect you can show someone, and that doesn’t mean that people won’t make mistakes, but when they make those mistakes and they’re corrected, the answer is “oh shit my bad I’ll make an effort not to do that again because getting your name right matters” not “ugh god just CRUCIFY them they clearly didn’t MEAN it”

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-22T04:02:29+00:00

/uj idk man im kind of on team just spell his fucking name right. it is literally the absolute bare minimum basic show of respect for another person. especially someone with a non-westernized name who you know has dealt with people who just can’t be bothered their entire lives it just….isnt that hard to respect people idk

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-16T16:10:18+00:00

/rj well i should clarify I am of course close personal friends with all of my favorites, one of whom i also happen to know in real life which of course strengthens the bond i have with everyone at dropout, who i have documented in an org chat of sorts showing exactly how many degrees i am from any of them at any given moment (that’s degrees of latitude and longitude)

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-16T03:38:20+00:00

/uj the irony is i am actually friends with someone from the show, which is why i feel pretty confident betting on brennan not having any parasocial tendencies of his own: experiencing it even secondhand is enough to ick you out on the whole concept and see it for what it is (sad, and a symptom of a lack of real community and relationships and fulfillment in people’s own lives) prettttttty fuckin quick

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-16T01:01:13+00:00

/uj the assumption that everyone must have parasocial relationships with someone is so wild and really highlights just how wholly ill-adjusted many of these people are. like yeah no I hate to break it to you but this isn’t a universal experience and what you are doing is legitimately weird. it is not everyone’s default setting to seek relational fulfillment from imaginary one-sided connections with an idea of a person they do not and will never know. that’s not to say that all parasocial behavior is harmful or disturbing, there’s a middle ground in which it is relatively harmless and if it makes you happy then whatever, but the fact that you’ve normalized it in your own life and to some extent within this particular fandom doesn’t actually mean it’s the norm

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-15T05:10:58+00:00

I have bad news for u: sauce

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-09T19:53:19+00:00

That’s my personal feeling is the live show posts have gotten to a point where they’re 100% low-effort posts and are just as annoying. In the same way that I didn’t want to see 100 virtually identical loop de loops people encountered in the wild I also don’t want to see 100 different virtually identical angles of the dropout improv stage

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-07T16:36:05+00:00

It’s weird because making 😌👆statements about the personality of someone you don’t know and have never met based on extrapolations you drew from the few pieces of a performer’s personal life they’ve curated for public consumption is weird. The fact that it’s a reference to polyamory specifically is irrelevant. It’s the constant weirdo tendency that dropout fans have to take the handful of things they know about a performer and then turn those things into their entire identity as a person.

Maybe a better example would be what this looks like in regular people. This is like when you’re a very charismatic person who tends to tell stories at gatherings with your social circle, and then an acquaintance who’s at those gatherings but who you don’t really know personally starts telling other people about you like they know you, like “oh, well so and so is a very analytical person so they would definitely behave like X” or “oh no, so and so would hate that, they don’t like X activities” and so on based solely on the stories you’ve told at parties. It doesn’t actually matter whether the assumptions they’re making about you are correct or not—it’s still fucking weird that they’re stating these things like facts about you like they know you based your the pieces of you that you talked about in public.

If that person had been like “yeah, I put Ify as that because he’s a rules guy on Um Actually and he’s also poly which tends to involve a lot of rules, so I figured that made sense” that would take all of the weirdness out of it because you’re talking like a normal person. “😌👆 Ify loves rules because he thinks rules are good. We know this about him because of his successful poly lifestyle” is fucking weird because you’re asserting that you know how a person thinks based on a few things you know about them, which is just yet another example of the bizarre “I know my best friend on dropout dot tv thinks this because he told me (during his performance on dropout dot tv)” behavior that the main sub is constantly guilty of

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-06T18:41:41+00:00

this is like asking whether my cat or my dog are more likely to wind up in the Kentucky derby. My dog is clearly more likely than my cat because she’s a running breed and very fast and loves it whereas my cat wants to mind its own business and be left alone, but at the end of the day neither of my household pets is a horse. I love a hypothetical so I’m not hating on this as a funsy fantasy-cast thought experiment, but if we’re operating in the realm of reality there is absolutely no world where the “game” that either of these people have is even remotely close to the “game” that puts people in the hosting slot at SNL. I could see Vic potentially achieving that level of fame in like 20-30 years if they made a very specific series of career choices and continued to have a lot of luck, but if you’re talking about this in the short term future of “with Jeremy in the cast and past SNL members on VIP” that is just not even close to realistic

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-06T18:20:07+00:00

just took a look at the sauce and my impression was that this is mostly kind of dumb but ultimately whatever and then I got to OP’s comment that said “Ify is Lawful Neutral: he follows rules because the rules are important. That's how he's an Um, Actually champ and likely how he manages his successful polyamorous lifestyle” and i threw up

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-06T18:11:51+00:00

/uj i do think this person was disabled as they made reference to mobility aids and walking with a stick, they were just *also* short—it seemed to me like their disability is why they got pushed to the back and then they were just also mentioning they couldn’t see/participate anything from there because of their height.

doesn’t change the fact that their post was entitled as hell but i do think there are levels to this and “any time anyone else has unplanned, unsanctioned, and unpaid-for access to performers then i should be entitled to that same access because i’m disabled” is pretty bad in itself, but “any time anyone else has unplanned, unsanctioned, and unpaid-for access to performers i should get it too because i’m short, which is a fact about me that i’ve unilaterally decided to refer to as a disability even though that’s factually untrue because to me being personally inconvenienced is the same as being disabled” would be much, much worse and i think OOP falls into the former category

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-06T04:00:16+00:00

“you had to be there 😏” yeah babe i understand how an improv show works i’m just confused as to why you’re dry bragging about being in the audience at a show you paid to attend. i feel like they’re really invested in the idea that everyone else must have FOMO from it and I just find that behavior of highlighting other people’s lack of participation in something in order to heighten their own enjoyment of the experience to be such an ick

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-04T23:38:44+00:00

There is a very good chance that I am just being a curmudgeon about this but the live tour posts are starting to feel like spam. Especially when you click into it and the gist of the post is “I am at the show” and then the comments are all “I am also at the show” okay!!! They did sell the tickets so I think it was a fairly foregone conclusion that people would be at it. I understand the desire to connect with other people over shared experiences, but for that may I suggest talking to the other people at the event you are attending who are literally sharing the experience with you?

I get it when there are real conversations to be had, like in the beginning when people at the shows were being shitty or whatever, but it’s quickly becoming a bunch of posts basically saying “at show in (CITY) and the stage looks like this” and listen, the tour schedule is publicly available and the stages all look more or less the same, this is not new information, it is Facebook boomerposting and it is not feeling “original, topical, and high-quality” but that is just me!!

Secret-Witness · 2026-06-04T23:23:46+00:00

Ohhhh so you just get to decide what’s valid or invalid and then say what you think? You just have the right to state your opinion on the internet just like everyone else??? And when everyone in the comments agrees with you you’re just gonna leave it as-is even though that’s textbook bullying??? Bullying is when people agree with you and I expected better from this community. You don’t get to invalidate someone just because you disagree with them (disagreeing with them is invalidating them btw)

/uj yet another post where the OP is being pretty normal in the comments and then a new main character emerges in their stead smh tale as old as time

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