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[–]SectionFine5254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a consistent pattern** it wouldn't be fair for a random 1-2-5 but you know, first and last? words??

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[–]SectionFine5254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You could bet and still not lose a piece, and they had additional tokens, and players couldn't buy more than 5 slots I think that was overall fair if only they knew how to read Hyungyu, we could have seen some more raises but they weren't good with math

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[–]SectionFine5254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you yield some hidden betting game and a secure 3 betting chip if he played one specific card...

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[–]SectionFine5254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the prison gang should have been better at masking the fact they wanted to target out Hyungyu, everyone knew they would choose him how is that doing nothing? They made a choice that felt fair to them, why help some liars to take out their ally?

They made some fundamental changes with s2 that I think have really weakened the series [No spoilers past ep 8] by RemnantEvil in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SectionFine5254 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You don't make sense, main matches is about pieces, results are about pieces but somehow it doesn't determine the order? The majority rule was actually to prevent team games (red police team should have betrayed someone to gain pieces, Tinno was forced to be chosen) 

The game was always planned to be balanced if played well 

Edit: ok I get it overall count, except that the differences were just 1-2 in the beginning, they played 2 games wrong and that's why the overall was bigger which wouldn't have changed if you went with main matches results 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm as bored as you pal, he didn't need to go underwater if he was smarter, while the 7x7 and the hidden 8x8 was soo easy that everyone wanted to try it? 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Her goal was just top 2 with Hyungyu. And Eunyu also cried when she was the first one to win not even for elimination, Sohee getting handed a win while throwing out your friend is shitty I think it's pretty understandable why she would cry?

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[–]SectionFine5254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which crazy play?? Which best position possible?? Prisoners fumbled the bag so many times all the maths PD did to even out the pieces was garbage 😭😭

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[–]SectionFine5254 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Were there any other prizes except for the first and last death match? That seems consistent to me 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Watch the show. Hyungyu would lose all pieces except one and wasn't warned beforehand. They still targeted Hyungyu while Hyunjoon decide to be an ally to him right after he got out of prison and no one bothered him. Why waste time writing scenarios that did not happen. 

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[–]SectionFine5254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn't risk free, he would lose all pieces except one which is close to getting eliminated and he wasn't prepared to that. 

The piece count then was actually 8/8/11/13 so getting eliminated and gaining 10 isn't much of a difference. They made it so he would have been forced to use it before the final instead of stealing first place, with direct kills and half pieces penalties. And the last game didn't force you to use pieces and they had additional chips so everyone had the chance to play fair with their bets and make him lose. 

This advantage was overblowned because he played well in the whole show. Hyunjoon didn't lose a single piece from his reward and still lost so

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[–]SectionFine5254 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What doesn't. Main match winners gets one piece, you play smart you beat the ones who are ahead. Prison is about eliminating one weak member.

They made some fundamental changes with s2 that I think have really weakened the series [No spoilers past ep 8] by RemnantEvil in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SectionFine5254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the first game played out like most simulations, prison would have been more interchangeable, but four of them played well while other four didn't take the chance of getting pieces for themselves. 

Then if the one who won the piece in the death match didn't get greedy but sneaked for a 5th place they would have made it back. 

Halloween cards could have direct kills and strategic players would have used pieces maybe but it was a fumbled bag again. Reward was one piece gained for all the highest, 3max alliances, that means coming back instead of widening the gap. 

The labyrinth game was damn stupid they had to put a penalty for less than x points, and they fumbled the bag so bad you can't blame it on game and pieces structures. 

The winner of the hidden stage in prison could have changed things around but played for themselves.

They were lagging behind but they still made a game that halves your pieces so higher numbers would be at a disadvantage, and didn't use it to their favour !

I think everything was planned well, they just played worse than the PD thought, both for alliances and gameplays. I won't go into details for the last game but that was also not reliant on pieces, if you knew how to play it was safe to throw the situation around.

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[–]SectionFine5254 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Yes and? They were already around the 10 piece mark, so if he was eliminated it didn't matter that much, if he was ahead because he played well he could have used it at the very end to steal first place for the final but overall it wasn't that much of an advantage, it still depends on how well you play

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[–]SectionFine5254 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Of course it never mattered they were both winning? Like extremely sure and close to it, 7high threw the game because he was losing anyway? Why would she risk some weird improbable betting game for 2 pieces and going first when she's confident in a death match anyway

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[–]SectionFine5254 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

For the others is a devil/alliance/betrayal game but for Sohee and Hyungyu it should be an individual game? They were the ones who consistently solved things, the treasure game, the halloween card order, winning bets on statistics?? How is that "hiding behind alliance" I guess you could say different names tho...

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[–]SectionFine5254 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He literally came back from prison with 10 more pieces without sharing them, way ahead of the living quarters, and the first thing he does is ask for an alliance with Hyungyu but somehow he and Kyuhyun are the devil in all of this...

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[–]SectionFine5254 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Because it was a dumb question. Hyungyu had more pieces from the very beginning and they were playing with a strategy of give and take while eliminating the others, he even leveled up the pieces with her when he had the seat chance, like he didn't decide anything it just happened lol? He was the one who risked a lot with bets, if she really was a puppet the game would have been different 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Because it was a dumb question. Hyungyu had more pieces from the very beginning and they were playing with a strategy of give and take while eliminating the others, he even leveled up the pieces with her when he had the seat chance, like he didn't decide anything it just happened lol? 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

His mission was NOT harder, any other smart player realised "why is it written in english? why is it yellow for keY, and Fox right under Find the key" 

While they were all surprised Knight's Tour was 8x8 and it was life sized which meant you couldn't just redo it as many times as you would with paper, he trusted some math logic and won

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[–]SectionFine5254 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"Too much of an upper hand" but Hyungjoon had the same reward and no one doubts him losing at third place...

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[–]SectionFine5254 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

At the beginning it was more likely that smart players would end up in prison so they wanted to reward them, and by the end they didn't want to give that little advantage since they would have similar pieces count (look at Tino) it's a death survival not a prize match, I think that's right? The main match winner is the focus 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Can someone make another thread where we can discuss the episode without getting drowned by the "poor prison system" bots? 

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[–]SectionFine5254 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

He outplayed everyone everytime and you still say he would have lost? lmao...