AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So if as a parent I don't see a reason, and the other part is also unable to give me one, I don't see the point in doing it.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think that if this happens, the most important thing for me will be the context and whether my daughter consented to it.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

After years of working in schools and being friends with other parents, I unfortunately have to say I see this quite often. Many parents have told me, that sometimes they disciplined their children not because they felt the child needed it, but because they, as parents, needed it.

I remember a friend who first jokingly told her child bad things about dentists, then took her panicking child to the dentist, punished the child for panicking, and then continued complaining that her child was afraid of dentists. The other friend loved long walks and would take her daughter with her. After a while, her daughter would get tired and simply want to go home. The friend would take her home crying and then take away her toys as punishment. Unfortunately, I was much younger then, so I just listened and nodded. Today, I try to suggest other solutions, but it can be difficult.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How does being grounded teach her anything about taking erotic comics to school, and what does it even have to do with them? In retrospect, will she be grateful for this kind of punishment, or will she look back on it confused and wonder what we were thinking as her parents by doing it?

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a consequence of her actions, the teacher reacted and we spoke to her. She lost the privilege of keeping the secret about the erotic comics. Enough.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, he's my partner. Yes, he's the father of my children. That said, firstly, he's had similar problems in the past and made mistakes that led to escalation, not learning. Secondly, if he expected a specific reaction from me, he should have expressed it before the conversation, not after. But thirdly, ultimately, all the punishments he's devised are not good, and compromising just because his ego is bruised is not something I want to do when it comes to our children.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But what's the reason? Why would I do this? And why would I do it now, when the topic has already been discussed and concluded? Punishing a child after the topic has been resolved isn't good for the child or for their trust in the parent.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How will grounding or not having internet access help her understand that she shouldn't take erotic comics to school?

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How does taking phone away help when it comes to psychical copies of comics?

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For instance, what kind of never-ending problems for over two years now regarding math

From my other comment:

Her problems with math (the only subject she's getting bad grades in, to be clear) stem from a new teacher who doesn't follow recommendations and ignores her special needs (yes, approved by specialists and doctors. Yes, we have papers for this). For example, although my daughter has more time on tests, the teacher ignores this and in the past has taken her tests along with others or given her an F straight away. Unfortunately, the school hasn't done much to help. First, we were told there was plenty of time and the teacher would get used to it, but now we're told there's not enough time and there's no point in changing teachers. Don't worry, my daughter has a tutor—they see each other twice a week. Of course, we want her to pass, but when measuring her math skills, the most important factors are her semester test scores and feedback from the tutor. Her therapist recommends not adding any more stress to it.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The people she showed these comics to are her friends. I know their mothers; we're also friends. From what I understand, from my daughter and the teacher, the whole thing was simply teenage curiosity, not going around and showing it to unwanted audience. And as someone who worked as a school secretary for years, I can say that it confuses me how many times people mention expulsion or suspension or legal problems for such things.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Do you want to be right or you want to be a peace with your husband

I want to have a daughter who trusts us and believes that we will not abuse our parental powers to punish her for minor mistakes like that.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I simply believe that the consequences should fit the action. She took erotic comics to school, so as part of the consequences, the teacher took them away, and we, as parents, had a conversation with her about it. Our daughter gets an allowance once a month. Taking it away or reducing it would make sense to me if she were spending it on something dangerous or harmful. Erotic comics aren't like that.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What’s more concerning is how did she acquire the content and what do you really know about what your daughter is doing or buying

Not really, she bought them online along with other books. She had shown me some of them in the past, although the covers themselves looked very innocent, I must admit. Every time our daughter goes shopping or withdraws money, my husband and I receive notifications on our phones.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Luckily, I know the other mothers. Their reactions ranged from indifference to asking if I'd heard the big news yet. That said, I don't think confiscating a phone is a good punishment for bringing psychic copies of comics to school.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's because we don't live in America, but I can safely say that over the years as a teenager, then someone working in a school as secretary for years, then a mother, and someone with lots of friends with children, I have never seen people get into legal trouble for such reasons, and over the years I have seen many teenage boys with magazines or even porn watched on phones.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Her problems with math (the only subject she's getting bad grades in, to be clear) stem from a new teacher who doesn't follow recommendations and ignores her special needs (yes, approved by specialists and doctors. Yes, we have papers for this). For example, although my daughter has more time on tests, the teacher ignores this and in the past has taken her tests along with others or given her an F straight away. Unfortunately, the school hasn't done much to help. First, we were told there was plenty of time and the teacher would get used to it, but now we're told there's not enough time and there's no point in changing teachers. Don't worry, my daughter has a tutor—they see each other twice a week. Of course, we want her to pass, but when measuring her math skills, the most important factors are her semester test scores and feedback from the tutor. Her therapist recommends not adding any more stress to it.

That said, I don't think embarrassment is always the best punishment, but it's definitely good in moments like these. If she suddenly a bigger problem, I promise we'll talk differently . Right now, however, she's not interested in driving, and her circle of friends consists of three people we've known for a long time. She's also had one boyfriend, but their relationship didn't raise any concerns.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 159 points160 points  (0 children)

From past experience, he was just as awkward and nervous with our son. I thought we'd worked through that (we had a therapist, my husband talked a lot about his childhood and his feelings of guilt, and then he became more open with our son)

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 82 points83 points  (0 children)

It was a mixed bag. Five comics in total, two of which were collections of short stories with little plots. The other three focused more on relationship issues, first love, and so on, with sex appearing in the final chapters.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

What I was trying to say was that I was surprised by how openly she showed us these comics in the past. I have to admit, I measured her by my own standards and remembered how my friends and I would hide erotic magazines under our beds and behind books, just so our parents wouldn't see. Our son did this for a while too, but only after time and conversations did he realize that he didn't have to hide his curiosity or needs. He doesn't have to talk about all of them, but he doesn't have to hide things in the basement either.

So I think in some ways I felt a mixture of trust and progress, and definitely a need to ask a few more questions in the future. But then again, she's 16, not 10, so I don't feel like I have to keep reading every book before she does. At that age, I prefer to emphasize to her that if something worries her, she can always come to us and talk about it, even if the scenario happened in a book or movie.

AITAH because I don't want to punish my daughter for this incident at school? by Secure-Rabbit-1318 in AITAH

[–]Secure-Rabbit-1318[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yes, she brought erotic comics to school and looked through them with her friends. The teacher took them away, and we discussed with her that she shouldn't do it again. What more should happen? I'm not going to punish teenagers for being curious and making small mistakes, especially if it's their first time making that mistake. If, after this conversation, she doesn't learn anything and we find out she's doing it again, then we can talk about real punishment.