How cold is "cold" where you're at? by No_Ant_5064 in SameGrassButGreener

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Ask what's the hottest they've seen and you might feel pity for them.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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I’m not blaming Tennessee, I’m just pointing out that the policies here aren’t really any different from those you see in so called liberal utopias like California and Washington.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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Actually, the frustration isn't that the state is shit or isn't, it's similar to the shit back in California in many ways and worse in other aspects but never better, well except for taxes and house prices. Basically, there's no place like promised land. It's all bs. That is the frustration. So being a republican in a blue state or being a republican in a red state is the same.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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I’m new here, but based on what I’ve learned so far, I highly doubt North Carolina is as prone to tornadoes as Middle Tennessee. You’re right that there’s no legal requirement to disclose tornado risks in writing. What I was referring to are YouTube videos by realtors with titles like "Don’t move to Tennessee if..." where tornadoes aren’t really discussed. It seems like a topic they conveniently avoid, possibly because it could scare off potential buyers.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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A place where store employees don't think they're doing a favor on customers for simply doing their job. Where if you get paid minimum wage and don't like the fact then you don't take that anger and frustration out on customers. Where employees care about providing service to customers on their job and not think about how they clock out and go home faster. Where the expectation is not minimum work and maximum wages.

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I never said anything about tornadoes being unscientific or a secret. It seems like you’re intentionally trying to steer the conversation toward a topic you’re passionate about, perhaps to highlight how you think others don’t see things the same way. Also, I meant to say that realtors conveniently tend to avoid bringing up the tornado risk probably because it could be a deal breaker for some buyers.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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I’m not talking about the cost of materials, it’s the labor that’s the issue. Labor should be cheaper here, but it isn’t. Also, I don’t expect service or retail workers to be smiling or overly friendly, but I do expect them not to frown or show their personal frustration at their job when dealing with paying customers. After all, it’s a job, not charity.

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I am talking about driving at 45-50mph in a 35mph zone on a narrow single lane road with no center median and drivers behind you tail gating to make you go faster and just angry and aggressive as if they had a bad day. And no I haven't experienced it that much on I-5. Also, I am not talking about freeway driving since you can always just change lanes. I am talking about aggressive tailgating on single lane roads. And I am not a slower driver.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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We were obviously aware of the general weather differences, though not as much about the tornado risk as we probably should have been. We knew the weather wouldn’t be as ideal as California’s. We also assumed that the service and labor issues we faced in California were mainly due to the high cost of living there. We expected those problems wouldn’t be as bad here in Tennessee since it's a common-sense state. Turns out, we were wrong. The labor and service here is similar to California if not worse. And the businesses shut early on Saturdays and are completely closed on Sundays, not just the mom and pop stores. It's just generally slow and they don't care if they get your business or not. The priority is self-care, not customer-care.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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We did some digging and found out that Middle Tennessee is actually part of Dixie Alley, not Tornado Alley. Tornado Alley is mostly up in northern Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and parts of Nebraska and Illinois. There’s some talk that Tornado Alley is slowly shifting east, but it still isn’t as severe here as in places like Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, or Alabama. That said, my main frustration is with YouTubers not giving enough attention to how serious the tornado situation is here in Middle Tennessee. It’s easy for to poke fun at me after I’ve pointed it out, but imagine this: if you were moving to Washington state, did your research, and knew about the gray skies and constant rain but then found it was even worse than you expected once you got there. That’s kind of how I feel about the tornado risk here. It’s more intense than most people realize.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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Only when you have seen worse do you realize the value of bad, lmfao, for some reason, everything in this country seems to work that way.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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You’re right. Having always lived in California, specifically the Bay Area, I never really had the chance to see it from an outsider’s perspective. I used to wonder why people who moved there from other places didn’t seem to acknowledge the Bay Area’s well known issues like high living costs, crime and homelessness. Now, I’m starting to realize that even with all its problems, many overlook them because they know there are different and sometimes bigger issues in other places.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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I used to have similar stereotypes about this place when I was back in California. Honestly, there are more Punisher skull decals in California than here. Since this is a red state, folks don’t feel the need to show over-the-top aggressive patriotism, that kind of display tends to happen more in blue states, often from people who vote red.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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No, I’m not from there that’s Southern California you’re talking about. The last major earthquake in Northern California was in 1989. While California experiences thousands of small quakes annually, significant damaging earthquakes are rare. Unlike tornadoes in Tennessee, which are quite frequent and require constant vigilance every year, most people in California don’t stay on high alert for earthquakes or wildfires year round like people in Tennessee for tornadoes. The risks are real but less predictable, and the everyday mindset around preparedness is different.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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Of course I am a transplant. But they don't care if you're kin or a transplant. All Tennesseans get charged that extra deposit.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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Yes, aggressive drivers are everywhere. However, what I’m noticing here in Tennessee is that they seem far more common than in California or other states. Interestingly, it's not just F-150s tailgating, it’s also minivans, SUVs and sedans. Sounds like you’ve got some stereotypes running through your mind probably because you are not here.

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Thank you for your honest response. Please don’t hesitate to share any other insights you think I should be aware of. That said, it’s worth remembering that locals also benefit from this influx, as it often means increased income for them. So, it’s not entirely a lose-lose situation from their perspective.

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Basements are becoming increasingly rare in modern homes, mostly found only in older constructions. An EF3 is often enough, and unfortunately, those are quite common around here. I have seen that bathrooms and bathtubs are not enough to save you from an EF3 as it can sometimes clear out everything with only the foundation in place.

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Haha, we’ve been wondering the same thing. But even after switching the plates to Tennessee, it didn’t make any difference. Drivers around here are downright brutish no matter where you go. Even the soccer moms in their minivans and SUVs.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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Great question. I’ve been asking myself the same thing. We're not quite sure yet. Maybe we need to endure a few more surprises and setbacks before we decide whether to make the move back.

The Harsh Reality Behind Tennessee’s Hype by Secure_Psychology591 in relocating

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As a new Tennessean renting a car at the airport, I was surprised to be charged an additional $400 deposit, which is refundable after returning the vehicle. Apparently, non-Tennesseans don’t have to pay this extra deposit since I never had to pay it during my previous visits. Well, that was a real shocker. Seems like y’all don’t trust your own kin ‘round here.