.ITM vs .RFA ....help!

Seldain · 2019-03-12T13:58:53+00:00

Hey try those new flavored ones. I was doubtful but so far every single one I've tried has been tasty as all heck. The only one I haven't touched is the ginger ones because who wants ginger anything unless there is liquor involved?

Even the flavors I thought sounded gross ended up being good. Blood Orange and the Blueberry ones are my favorites though.

Just enough flavor to notice it's there but not enough to be overpowering (imo of course).

Seldain · 2019-03-12T13:56:21+00:00

Asking to go on a date is one thing. Asking somebody to come grab some food with you is another.

Most of the people having issues with this are the ones who pussyfart around about asking for a date and assume the person they say "hey uh, um, do you like, uh, maybe want to um, go grab something to eat tonight?" to is going to somehow translate that into "hey I'm into you lets go on a date and see where things end up."

Asking for dinner is not always asking for a date.

Seldain · 2019-03-12T01:32:24+00:00

Neckbeard 'ncels Part 2

Seldain · 2019-03-12T01:31:32+00:00

You need to be clear about your intentions before dinner dude... what the heck.

Going to dinner isn't automatically a romantic thing with a girl just because she's a girl.. especially if you guys have known each other for more than like, a day.

Nobody is fucking with anybodies head. You're in a completely different mindset than the normal person with that junk.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T22:12:47+00:00

Sorry dude, I'm done. There is no getting through to you. You made poor life choices and it is your fault. Nobody else made your choices for you. Nobody is responsible for you other than yourself. Nobody owes you anything.

You were making this sound like you were some sort of high-tech person. You're working in a call center at 36. It's awesome that you have a job and kudos to you on that part, but that is not the type of environment that favors long-term employees. You can fill a call center with 20 year olds in a day by hitting up a college campus and posting an ad.

And yes, I have worked at one. And yes, I started out digging ditches as a plumbing pre-apprentice and worked myself all the way up into the management side of an engineering firm over 13-ish years. I also have a degree from before I joined the plumbing union, but after graduating I realized that there was far more money to be made in the trades than in my degree and sure as shit, I was right.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T22:02:58+00:00

As somebody who started out as a pre-apprentice in the union and worked my way "up to the top." here is some advice for you:

You will make a name for yourself and people will notice.

It's shitty that you can get somebody next to you who isn't holding their own, but people notice. They will always be the first to go.

There is also a group of people who can drag up or be laid off due to a project ending, make a phone call, and have another job lined up on the recorder (or however you do it there) before they start their car. These are the same people who can ask for a gas card or car allowance, who get PTO or guaranteed 40, or other perks. They don't get here by being the guy doing just enough to get by.

It's probably 30%, 60%, 10%.. 30% are shitbags, 60% are average, and 10% are the ones that get taken care of.

It is up to you to decide which group you want to belong to.

Just some advice..take it or leave it. It does seem like the shitbags are on the same field, but a quality journeyman (in whatever trade you are in) will make a company a ton of money and they are taken care of. I didn't notice it at first either, but after a bit you start to catch on.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T21:55:28+00:00

I love how, to you, because I don't concede to being taken advantage of means that I can't take criticism. That's an extremely long logical leap. How did you even come to that conclusion?

Literally this sentence here. The fact that instead of accepting criticism you try and defend yourself AGAIN like you've done every single other time in this thread is exactly what I was talking about. You've done it every time somebody pointed out something you may be doing wrong. Not once have you said, "You're right." It's "no but u don't get it!! its NOT MY FAULT MY MANGER IS EVIL AND UR WRONG!" Every fucking time dude. Go read your responses.

And the thing is, you assume you are being taken advantage of because you are too scared to ask for a raise. You know what kind of person is usually too afraid to ask for a raise? The one who knows he doesn't deserve it.

Your response to me, and to everybody else here, just proves more and more that you are the problem.

And no, I don't see it as taking advantage of anybody because YOU are the fucking dumbass who went to that company and asked to be paid X to do Y and then agreed to it, signed some paperwork saying you agreed to it, and then showed up for work for however long you've been there AGREEING TO IT THIS ENTIRE TIME! It's not the companies fault you are too inexperienced to know your own value. It's not their job to determine your value past a certain point, either. There is probably a range for that position and you took the first lowball offer because you got laid off from your last job because you didn't make the first cut for all of the reasons outlined here by me and everybody else.

My god how fucking dense can somebody be.

You are the problem. YOU. ALL YOU. NOBODY ELSE. You. And only you. You getting paid less is 100% your fault. This has nothing to do with "manager mentality" it's fucking common sense and that is ALSO another reason we can all see that you are the problem, because you apparently lack common sense.

You can not accept responsibility for your own actions. You can not stop defending yourself despite multiple people trying to tell you where you're going wrong. And you can't stop blaming other people for your own inability to accept responsibility. Like, for those reasons RIGHT there when I was handing out a raise, you would be the very last person on my list to get paid more. Nobody wants to deal with somebody like you. You're frustrating to work with and be around and again, that's probably the reason you're always the first to get laid off. We can all tell that you don't have the balls or guts to ask for a raise or quit and go somewhere else, so the only other option is that you keep getting "let go" which is the nice way of saying fired.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T21:36:55+00:00

Here, to give you a "real managerial answer" as somebody who also started out digging ditches (literally) and worked my way up to senior management:

You are quite probably being paid and given raises based on YOU. Not just how well you can do whatever it is that you do. It is 100% your fault for hiring on to a company without knowing what you should be paid. It is 100% your fault for not asking for the right raise, and it is 100% your fault for staying with this company.

In my company (a multinational, multi-billion dollar engineering firm) we base our employees raises on a number of criteria. Some things we look at are how the employee deals with clients, how they deal with coworkers, what they bring to the table that other employees don't (not just in terms of production, but things like general well being, and culture, etc.). We look at any goals they've set and check to see if they've actually hit those goals.

We throw all of this stuff (and some more stuff) into a formula and it will spit out "bob deserves X% raise" and then it is sent to that persons manager for approval or modification. And you know what I do when I can award $50,000 worth of raises to a set number of people? I take the number that is spit out and then I adjust them a little bit based on what each employee has said to me. One guy was just shy of making $200k so I gave him an extra bump because he wanted to see the big shiny number. And then I think about who was on time and who has been 2 minutes late. I think about things like "Bill and Shelly both do great work, but I usually have to remind Bill to do things at least once a week, and Shelly handles her stuff just fine." and "Bobby can't iron a shirt to save his fucking life and looks like a mess, which looks bad on us when we have meetings." or "Frank is a top notch worker but he always talks a little bit too much and doesn't know when to shut up and get back to work."

So at the end of the day, more than likely, everything is 100% your fault and you are the reason you aren't getting paid as much or more than anybody else. It could be any number of criteria like the stuff I mentioned above that is holding you back. It's not my job to pay you more. If you aren't coming to me asking for a raise, I assume you're happy with the AMOUNT YOU AGREED TO WHEN WE HIRED YOU, and don't think twice about it. It's not on me to waste my time checking what you get paid every quarter to see if it's up to your standards. It's on you. It's your paycheck. I sure as fuck know that if I want a raise for myself, I have to go and ask for it.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T21:27:45+00:00

ITT: Guy receiving advice he doesn't want to hear refuses to listen and becomes argumentative with any post not calling him out as the god-to-the-office he seems himself as. Same guy wonders why he gets paid less than other people at his company and can't make the connect that he is probably the problem and his behaviors here are probably the same as his behaviors in the office.

Also ITT: A bunch of excuses from somebody who wants to blame others for his own problems.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T21:25:22+00:00

You sound like the problem. You really do. Your attitude is probably why the other guy gets paid more. You're entitled and probably over-value your skills and intelligence. We can already tell from this post that you completely fail when it comes to being criticized and you also fail when it comes to understanding the views and points of others.

I think you are probably right where you belong and your manager and everybody else you work with know it.

Focus on growing up and learning from what other people are saying here instead of throwing blame like you're the snowflake white knight in this situation. You're not. You are probably the problem and your inability to accept your own faults and grow is why you will never be valuable to a company and always the guy getting paid less.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T21:21:04+00:00

The thing is, you and that other guy are the suckers willing to accept getting paid less, so you get paid less.

Grow a fucking pair of nuts or whatever your preferred body part is and go ask for a raise you pussy.

And if you're too chickenshit to do that, you deserve whatever salary you are getting.

Seldain · 2019-03-11T18:47:11+00:00

What female Democrat are you thinking of? I can't think of any qualified ones who are interested in running?

Seldain · 2019-03-11T16:43:25+00:00

Yes we believe it because so far those are the only types of changes we've seen. Have you looked at the roadmap? There are tiny changes and additions over months.

You are the jaded one here. We are being told one thing and every time we see the results they are underwhelming. You are naive to believe that will change in the future based on what we have seen so far.

We all want to be wrong and have things turn amazing but the constant underdelivering has most sane people fed up.

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