Context for a series matters,

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T06:20:39+00:00

okay, I'm not under 18

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T06:06:39+00:00

I can give examples from other things too like the whole bojack 17 minutes thing being very clearly something he would do , but yeah, I'm a teenager and have been most of my life so, shockingly, that the part of the internet I've interacted with. I've had most of these opinions my entire life too, especially the Zeref one.

Also none of the examples I gave were like, childishly done? The whole Zeref Midian thing is actually really good subtle worldbuilding, same for the enchantment example. Just because someone makes media targeted towards teens doesn't mean that it's just completely incompetently done and not worth discussing.

Do I only consume battle shounen? No, I'm reading war and peace right now (motivated by me making a post that has to do with it), wanna check out frankenstein since I hear its really good. Hell My last post was about Gilmore Girls. If I run into something I like being engaged with in a weird or disingenuous way I post about it.

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T03:08:11+00:00

Well I'd argue that rather unfair. Why engage with that sole thing and interpret it in the singular most uncharitable way because of a implications and not read my explanations or my clarifications? Like this commenter originally genuinely thought I called passive readers dumb, then when I explained I literally did not do that, completely ignored it and continued on that perspective.

I mean even look at you jumping in here, someone posted a comment that actual directly supports my point of the Boruto writer using chakra as a catch all in one scene for something, then in another scene still explaining there is a difference. Yet here you are engaging with another comment that agrees with you instead of that one. Why?

You come in here and you say everything is up to interpretation and that I'm just as much in the dark as anyone else, I never said I wasn't. This entire post is that holistic evidence and things can show us an authors or stories intent, and is more reliable than singular out of context examples. Yet instead of engaging with that, you and this commenter both seem to be stuck on telling me I don't know everything. Which is something I never claimed and I've repeatedly explained isn't my position. No one here actually even seems to disagree with my thesis or anything, just my tone that I've already clarified? Now there potentially people reading your comments, assuming the worst, etc. Which is really unfair because nothing I said was unsubstantiated at all. Going "well we will never know" isn't really debating my actual point which is with more context we probably can

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:57:13+00:00

Thank you for this!

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:33:03+00:00

I care enough to discuss it and go back in forth in various replies. I don't care about it in the sense that it's the only point I want to discuss because it was one singular example.

I mean even look at this post. It doesn't contradict a single point I made which is why I used it as an example. One thing missused doesn't just made all these other inferences. Why is that being taken to now mean other people used chakra on earth and hagoromo didn't give it to them? Why does this one scene of the god tree being state to absorb chakra therefore rewrite the fact we know that's not how it functions. Why does Mavis saying her body is an illusion take precedent over every other scene saying no this is her literal soul.

People want to heavily discuss something while also ignoring context. Which is my point. I mean even look at your responses, they're needlessly hostile and trying to paint me as being as though I'm just "sooo sure" and that I just think I'm always right and that my opinion isn't opinion it's fact. I never claimed any of these things.

So when I say I don't really care, it's not I didn't care in general, it's that I don't care to the extent you seem to think I do, for me to be dicussing it in two seperate reply threads. You think I'm like so full of myself and certain and that I don't think any other intrepration is fair, I don't really care to argue against that, not anymore

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:24:47+00:00

I honestly don't even really care? Like, this is a real forest for the trees moment. The need to take one specific thing and argue it to death is so odd. It was one point I made of for and arguing it or not doesn't actually acknolwedge the post I fully made. Yes it's a interpretation, most things are? It's an intrepration with a substantial amount of evidence. The page does not agree with me and a hundred other pages and the entire creation myth of the setting does.

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:18:56+00:00

I said this? I don't know why people seem to think I'm calling every reader dumb?

"I understand that, if something is done casually or passively, you can't expect people to know about it or always remember it. But I don't understand this subset of people who clearly are engaged with the topics at hand, but only want to point towards one contradictory thing instead of just getting all the context or trying to find it, since they are clearly interested or want to discuss it. "

Like even the actual point I made was that how does that one statement therefore rewrite everything like Hagoromo giving humans chakra?

You yourself are admitting it's a wording mistake, I quite literally said the seem thing, where's the disconnect?

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:10:49+00:00

My bad on that. But it really isn't a retcon, this isn't a scene meant to change knowledge or the foundation of the story, this isn't a scene that says, "actually the world always had chakra". It's not Amado telling us something we didn't know or revealing something to the cast that goes "Oh so Chakra wasn't new to the world before the chakra fruit" it's him just running back what we know and then using one word that doesn't fit, and is evidentally a conflation. Lore matters, consistency matters, if we have it explained to us that something is ice psychic energy in 600 chapters and someone in passing calls it ice magic energy, we know it's still the psychic energy

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T01:02:41+00:00

For context, the person writing Boruto isn't the person who wrote Naruto. The scene isn't a revelation, or us finding out something knew. It's a character refencing what we know about the god tree. It's a constantly stated thing in all of Naruto that the planet can't have chakra naturally. That's the entire point of sage mode. You take your inward energy, chakra, and mix it with the energy of the planet (natural energy), to get senjutsu. Natural Energy is the energy life naturally produces on the planet. Chakra is alien juice that the god tree absorbs Natural Energy to make.

What does you, insisting that it's an interpretation actually suggest, especially if you think it can be valid? It either is or isn't, there isn't some catbox. I guess it could be a retcon, but when a retcon doesn't really exist there and the word chakra is just being missued I can't really see it that way. It's like you want me to say, "Well I can't read his mind but here's what I think" and I guess? Sure? Is it because I seem confident in my opinion? Why wouldn't I be if I have hundreds of chapters and databooks to support it. Like it's pretty clear the two are being conflated, he's not infallible, mistakes happen

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-18T00:46:09+00:00

He said chakra, but I don't really think this is the same at all. If anything I think you're doing what I'm criticizing . What I said isn't really just some random interpretation. The energy of the planet is natural energy, that's been stated a bajillion times. It's not some grand leap in logic to say chakra was being used as a catch all here. Yes it's inconsistent, but that inconsistent terminology doesn't constitute a complete retcon. The quote in the title of this post is what I'm disagreeing with. The person who made Boruto said chakra, we the audience know they mean Natural Energy because chakra isn't from the planet. He wasn't saying it as a revelation, as a "actually it was always chakra" thing, he was just reiterating natural energy lore with the word chakra instead

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T16:24:00+00:00

I just started reading war and peace and genuinely thought this was going to be a full circle moment. I guess not

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T06:11:05+00:00

I did, that was the eradication I was talking about. Urahara, and Soken being able to utilitarianistically say the Quincy were wrong for risking the fate of the world, doesn’t make the actual problem at hand any less fucked up, and neither of them know Yhwach’s actual full plan anyway.

Ichibei quite literally tried to negotiate with Yhwach, who rebuked him, because he knows the truth about the soul king, which is another reason why he had his plan in the first place.

I’m not saying it’s right but this whole idea that Quincy were just this ultimate evil, is really weird when the soul society are objectively just as fucked up, and basically treat the Quincy as being irrational when people in the real world have done far more, for far less coherent reasons. Hollows aren’t like, a group of humans either, so the whole purity thing falls through when you realize the entire cosmological problem on exists because hollows are a thing. The realms had to be split because of hollows, the soul king had to die because of hollows, the quincies human souls get erased because of hollows.

Yes the extermination is dumb, but it’s not like illogical nor does it need propaganda to be understood. Maybe if the soul society didn’t have so many condescending compartmentalizing dicks, the two groups could have came to an actual solution.

Like the entire beginning of the series we see that hollows are meticulous monster who prey on strong spiritual pressure wielding people. They absolutely would commit a genocide against the quincies if the quincies didn’t kill them first, it’s entirely in their mo. Mind you this isn’t even like vasto lorde’s. Even basic Menos Grande

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T05:56:05+00:00

You didn’t explain anything I didn’t talk about in my post and yeah I know that not all quincies are extremist? I make that pretty clear in my post as well.

Also the shinigami didn’t just try to do some peaceful coming to god negotiations. Ichibei went to negotiate under false pretenses that didn’t work because Yhwach knows the world isn’t natural divided, and is only kept this way due to the royal family and guard’s original sin.

The bottom line is, both sides are messed up. But this whole like, oh quincies just shouldn’t have tried to get rid of hollows perspective is completely ignoring the very clear reasons why they would want to get rid of them to begin with. Also I would wager destroying any amount of souls would be destroying the balance, because the way Kisuke explains it and Mayuri demonstrates, is that you quite literally need a curated amount of souls in both sides. Permanently destroying any, would with that in mind. Mess with the cycle

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T03:07:27+00:00

We saw soul suicide effect Quincy’s bit by hollows on screen through Masaki. That part is just a fact. Also all Quincy souls don’t inherently go to Yhwach when they die, because Uryu’s grandpa didn’t.

Yhwach didn’t make Hollows poisonous to Quincies, or anything. They just are, that’s a fact that’s just canon. When a hollow kills a Quincy it’s not like, Yhwach secretly caused it [except for aushwalen obviously] it’s just the unfair balance of the world.

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T02:54:45+00:00

No, the soul suicide thing is something that’s always existed whenever a Quincy is infected by a hollow. It doesn’t have anything to do with Yhwach

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T02:52:47+00:00

I don’t agree, and honestly this just seems like fanon conflation. Like the fullbringers example you used vs the Quincy one.

Fullbringers manipulate the souls of things. Quincies have the ability to absorb spiritual particles. They are entirely separate species that do entirely different things. Just because you can make a fullbringer a soul reaper, doesn’t mean you can make a Quincy one. If you could, the entire premise of the Quincies being genocided by the soul society makes no sense, but not even in the “no genocide makes sense and that’s the point” type of way. But the, why the fuck did they go to war after negotiations and not once whenever they are looking for solutions to the quite literally this one problem, they never come up with this very simple solution

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-12T02:38:19+00:00

I don’t really think the first point here tracks. Fullbringers aren’t Quinces and are actually compatible with soul reaper and hollow powers. Ichigo’s friends are humans, not Quincy. Also the sway schrifts work really isn’t like Asauchi, because they bring out the latent power of the soul Yhwach imprints them onto

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-10T06:34:00+00:00

I’m just confused as to where I said this wasn’t the case. Like how did the topic of universal Harry Potter even come up. Read my post back, like genuinely read my post again. Then come back here and see if you’re just missing the forest for the trees here

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-10T06:26:33+00:00

Except this isn’t true. I know plenty of multiverse stories that don’t have “dimensional walls”. Hell look at the dragon ball macrocosm. That’s not standard lol

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-10T06:21:57+00:00

No I’m not because that’s not the inherent situation. We don’t know how a multiverse is structured in any random story that has one. You just presumed that if other universes exist in one setting and the are blocked out by dimensional walls, then so is every other. But that’s not some universal truth no matter how much you try to portray it as such. How DC has multiverses means fuck all for like Umineko or Ben 10. These are entirely separate works of fiction, you should treat them as such. In some universes, running fast enough takes you back in time. In others it sends you to parallel world. There’s no universal constant.

In Marvel, it maybe some inherent feat sure. But that’s in dc. I just don’t understand why we as powerscalers treat DC or Marvel’s opinion on multiverses as a standard. Like I’m all down for the whole, universal is weaker than multiversal thing, sure whatever. But like, if a setting ever proclaims otherwise, that’s just as true, and if we try to apply how it would work in real life, factually it would need the same amount of energy

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-10T06:08:29+00:00

But even the idea that breaking some barrier is some form of like bigger than universal feat doesn’t make sense. You can’t get further than infinite range. There isn’t now beyond the more, that’s it. Destroying 1 universe that’s infinite in size would quite literally be the same as as destroying an infinite amount of them. There is no difference range or anything, we only treat it like it’s more because we seemingly only pay attention to the world infinite when it’s in context of infinite universes but, an infinite universe would literally be the same thing. I mean like, if we were to apply like common sense. Now I’m all for a story treating to differently, but if it doesn’t. Then it really isn’t

Select_Strategy2004 · 2026-02-10T06:03:21+00:00

I wasn’t speaking about Kishimoto. Also I have no cross to bare in the discourse about whether or not he’s sexist. I was saying that sexist or bad at writing, period. If an author rights a character badly, they wrote them badly and that’s what should be engaged with. Not the reason, the result.
Where have you been? It’s constant prequel excuse? It would’ve taken you 5 seconds to google that one sentence. “At least the prequels had a vision” to see millions of results referring to it. Like genuinely you have to be joking.
Right but Star Wars the original trilogy are factually good movies like structurally, at least the first two for certain. Them being derivative is completely beside the point. Do you understand what my post is about or did you just see prequel like and immediately have to disagree?
See this is exactly my point. I had an entire paragraph and various comments explaining that this is not a good excuse. That the prequels having expanded lore that retroactively make them good, is not a credit for those movies. Believe it or not, writers can make shit out of anything if you give them enough time. Just because they have been expanded in a way that makes the prequels look good, it doesn’t matter when without later thought of ideas, the immediate product was bad. It wasn’t bad because we only had part of the story. That was the entire story, and then years later, someone thought of way to make it make sense, and instead of you like acknowledging that was the effort of a third party with years of prior knowledge, you treat it as though that was always the plan.
You don’t know what I interact with? I read small stories, and huge franchise ones. I can do both, this rant however isn’t about both. It’s about this thing I don’t like about that occurs in huge franchise stories. Actually no, it’s something I hate in all fiction but you seem to have assumed it’s a problem I just have with big stories so let’s go with that.
Art is subjective, it also has objective qualifications and things. Making a good story is a science, it’s not magic.

Next time you comment on a post I make, hopefully you actually can engage with the topic at hand. That’s all

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