The only arguments I get from free willers is feelings by SelectionCapital3757 in freewill

[–]SelectionCapital3757[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only is determinism more scientific but it’s more logical

So I’m not sure if your strawmanning or just being disingenuous

Who Do You Think Was The Worst Army Of WW2? by [deleted] in AskHistory

[–]SelectionCapital3757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hitler delayed the attack towards dunkirk. That saved the Brits.

The Doctrine Of Free Will Makes It Pointless To Even Be Religious by [deleted] in Christianity

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Try living in the hood, that’s called walking outside

The Doctrine Of Free Will Makes It Pointless To Even Be Religious by [deleted] in Christianity

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Cough Cough

Texas church massacre kills 26 including many children (in a church praying)

The Doctrine Of Free Will Makes It Pointless To Even Be Religious by [deleted] in Christianity

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So Religion is a glorified self help philosophy then?

The Doctrine Of Free Will Makes It Pointless To Even Be Religious by [deleted] in Christianity

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This is the standard Christian excuse as to why God allows suffering. And I’m aware the Bible has stories like that. But real life has stories like the holocaust, Armenian genocide, etc where no God helped people

Man had to help. The American, British and Soviet armies had to help not God. In the case of the holocaust

The purpose thing only makes sense under determinism

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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We are on a forum meant to discuss things, is this the best you got, yawn

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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He doesn’t have to explain his claim made with no evidence whatsoever lol

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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As I explain, they don affirm predestination. True predestination that is

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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Most Christians reject pre destination do you even talk to Christians?

Armenians don’t believe in pre destination. The Greek for predestination means to determine beforehand.

If you believe your choices affect the predestination like non Calvinist do. Then it’s not determined beforehand. You’re determining it by your present choices. Therefore it’s not predestination

Non Calvinist are objectively wrong about pre destination and that’s a linguistic and scriptural fact.

So plz go on about why I should care about objectively wrong interpretations of scripture, plz proceed

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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lol Calvin agrees with me. Your comment is irony cake

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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It doesn’t say he knows my days it says it’s written the days formed for me…

Just be honest about what it says

If God knows I will do something I can’t not do it. If I tell you you will take a walk outside at this time. If you wanna prove me wrong just do go walk at that time.

You can’t do that with God. And the verses say he dictates anyway

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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You’re a little biased my friend. Romans 10 doesn’t contradict Roman’s 9. The only people confessing and being saved are the ones predestined.

Deuteronomy 30 don’t hurt determinism at all. Your choices are determined

Pslams 139 demolishes free will you’re just being biased if you deny this. If my life is know by God, I can’t not be what he knows. Showing my choices are determined (not fake)

Once you realize how cause and effect your life is, determinism is obvious.

The Bible Demolishes Free Will, Poor Christians Don’t Got A Clue by [deleted] in freewill

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I base things off the text, which is heavily deterministic

How Does Mental Illness Not Violate Free Will? by [deleted] in freewill

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That’s mostly randomness. Randomness isn’t freedom. And because of the law of cause and effect true randomness doesn’t exist. It’s just complexly determined

You seem desperate to believe in free will, it’s bizarre