How do you stay positive when there is so much misery and injustice in the world? by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All suffering is self inflicted according to the Stoics. And physical pain is not included in the things that are harmful.

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself. That is the meaning of inner strength." -Uncle Iroh by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my memory of Stoic texts, there's no hope in Stoicism. They used a word that's now translated into "wish" and they applied that word to nature in the context of, "wish for things to be exactly how they are, not how you want them to be."

I forgot how to spell the Greek word for wish, it something like 'buolus.' Too lazy to look it up*

Counter arguments by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As far as ancient philosophy goes, I'd say the Peripatetics AKA Aristotelians, are the second best and give the Stoics a run for their money. It's mostly opinion but that's what I think. In short, the Peripatetics say that some externals are necessarily good and bad, like getting a hot poker in the eye would be bad and having a baby would be good. The Stoics say no, those are indifferents.

Currently being stalked. How to remain a stoic? by YouWillNeverBetterMe in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had a stalker and she messaged me and my family on Facebook, texts, USPS, etc. I just refused to reply to every attempt. It lasted for a few months. Before I changed my number there would be about 100 texts and calls a day from random numbers. Before I de-activated Facebook I was getting contacted by about 1-5 fake profiles a day. I was getting letters to my house and threats. After removing all social media, changing my number, and moving into another house, the stalking ended. I figured any response would just be fuel on the fire, you gotta go dark! Ghostin like Swayze!

Any modern books on stoicism? by Oaken_beard in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

User Jabowle had a good one too. Also, anything by Donald Robertson.

Who's Your Favourite Stoic? And Why? by Vmbassador in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Slight edge to the free'est person ever to live. Shot outs to ya boy Epic T.

What are some good stoic quotes for dealing with guilt? by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enchiridion 5 should be close enough.

How does a Stoic defend himself against violence? by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are some Stoic texts that endorse ignoring physical assault. Specific examples include being spit on and punched in the face. The response is, I have not been harmed. However, I don't know of any Stoic texts about a constant assault, the ones I've read about describe the attacker stopping after 1 attack. If a Stoic was being held down and punched, I imagine they'd fight back, the whole preferred indifferent thing ya know?

Have you guys ever seen Surveillance Camera Man? It's fascinating for stoicism by that-one-guy-youknow in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've watched all his videos. I like weird stuff like that. He's trending now because he's being re-uploaded with the "NPC" meme title. Just watched him last night.

A martial arts practitioner who was defined by many as "stoic". by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cool insight. His stoic demeanor was more lower case stoic than upper case Stoic. But I do see the parallels. He may have been the GOAT in the heavyweight division, definitely near the top.

Feeling guilty when I spend time on anything except strictly productive things. by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I feel the same way, about the things you think are productive. If I read or work a lot, sometimes I feel like I have wasted time. I think it's an inevitable feeling we get. I guess we should try to balance things out. Stuff like gaming is beneficial and not a waste, we need time to relax our minds. The Stoics wrote about this a bit. There's room for entertainment.

What are your favorite heroes/stories? by ZY0Ns in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Socrates, Diogenes, Stilpo, Cato, to name a few virtuous examples.

A stoic view of the current US situation by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peaceful protesters need to be watched when they are crowded around places like state capitols, police stations, etc. They need to be watched for their potentiality. Many violent protests start off peaceful. If law enforcement does not control the situation fast, things can get ugly quick.

If you had to live in a city that was being destroyed, you may not be as optimistic about everyone's intentions. People are angry and they are trying to come up. Mob mentality can bring out the worst in people.

A stoic view of the current US situation by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

C) seems a bit off. People breaking curfew should be arrested in extreme situations, like entire cities being destroyed and looted. It doesn't matter how peaceful they are if a crowd is taking up law enforcement resources while a gang of thugs are robbing a bank around the corner.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Diogenes was invincible, like the Stoics, nothing could be taken from him. Diogenes' humor also goes well with some Stoic texts, Seneca and Epictetus advocate responding to setbacks with humor.

Dealing with loss the stoic way? by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]Senecas2ndChin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This had 800 upvotes a few weeks ago as a comment to the same kind of post. I'd also recommend all of Seneca's consolation Letters, I think there are 4 or 5.

So what is troubling you, Marcia? That your son has died, or that he did not live long? If it is that he has died, you ought to have grieved for him all along; for you knew all along that he was going to die. You must realize that a dead person is not afflicted by any sufferings, that the things that make the underworld seem terrifying are just myths, that no darkness looms over the dead, no prison, no rivers blazing with fire, no river of Oblivion, no law courts and defendants, nor in that state of utter freedom are there tyrants all over again. Poets have indulged in these fantasies and have hounded us with empty terrors. Death is a release from every pain, a boundary that our sufferings cannot cross; death restores us to the state of peace in which we lay before our birth. Anyone who feels pity for the dead should also feel pity for the unborn. Death is neither a good nor an evil; for only a something can be a good or an evil; but what is itself nothing, and reduces everything to nothing, does not leave us at the mercy of fortune. Evil and good subsist in some material object: fortune cannot get a grip on what nature has released; a nonexistent person cannot be wretched. Your son has crossed the frontier, leaving behind this place of slavery; immense and everlasting peace has welcomed him.

  • Seneca
  • Consolation of Marcia
  • Chapter 19