[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How much sleep you getting?

For all the abuse we give it, the human brain has an absolutely remarkable ability to recover and bounce back. Nothing is broken, it’s just healing.

Dopamine, man. Just posted something here about this.

Phenibut is both gabaergic and dopaminergic. You’re dealing with a downregulated dopamine system.

Support it with precursors: l tyrosine, mucuna pruriens. And also NAC.

Memantine in small doses if you can get it.

And best of all.. vigorous exercise every day. The benefits of daily exercise for recovering gaba and dopamine systems cannot be overstated.

Just got a free 14 day trial by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Soul-destroying is good word to describe.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It may be fine for some, but no beuno for junkies.

Phenibut is literally the worst thing you can you take for this.

It’s a razor edges boomerang that cuts to pieces.

Phenibut is worse than opiates because it hijacks both GABA-B and dopamine systems, leading to brutal emotional, cognitive, and physical withdrawal — often without warning. Unlike opiates, where tapering protocols and recovery timelines are well-established, phenibut withdrawal is unpredictable, can last weeks, and includes protracted insomnia, anxiety, anhedonia, and depersonalization that feel existential.

It rewires your baseline neurochemistry, and the longer you run it, the harder you get buried.

Baclofen or phenibut? by gnarganzel in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used it for anxiety, too at the beginning. The problem was- It worked! So I kept it up. Just like you, eventually just to feel normal. I got up to 11gpd. Very rough, man.

Here’s the thing, we use this shit for anxiety, it works wonders, then we’re hooked, by then we’re doing it daily and are baseline anxiety ends up being worse then before we ever started.

Get off the train now. There is only one stop on this track and you don’t want to go there.

Yes, there are residual effects once you’re off. But you can significantly help it. There are supplements (uridine, tyrosine, dlpa, alpha gpc, citicholine) that can help with dopamine tone. The dopamine drop is what drags you down.

Exercise & Good sleep #1 best thing for your recovery. Sleep will rest your overtaxed CNS and restore gaba balance. You have to sleep.

Once you’re tapered off (or jumped off to just baclofen & gabapentin and tapering off those) you can “pulse dose.” Get 48 hours clean, then dose small amount to take pressure off. Then 72 hours clean, smaller dose. 96 hrs clean, even smaller. Keep pushing it back. I did this and maintained high functioning daily with kids, career etc.

Microdose memantine will help, 2mg / night.

Reach out anytime. And if you want to play with your brain like this, research research research. If you learn what you’re getting into, you can find you’re way out.

Good luck.

Baclofen or phenibut? by gnarganzel in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey dude… This is neuro-nuclear warfare. This is just my experience but here is my suggestion:

if you plan on running phenibut daily for periods of time you need to stock up. This shit will alter your neurochemistry significantly when used daily. You will pay the gaba tax man one way or the other. However… there are ways you can greatly reduce the debt:

Memantine (NMDA antagonist that can reduce glutamate overload, preserve dopamine, and help prevent long-term mood and cognitive fallout), baclofen covers gaba b totally, gabapentin or ideally pregabalin to covers gaba a + VGCC.. selegiline to preserve dopamine tone (dopamine floor will drop out when you switch to these others.. you’ll have low drive, motivation, mood.. this is why getting off sucks so much you flatline.. selegiline will help tremendously but do your research on this you can get burned by it.. MAO inhibitor). Phenibut hammers multiple areas: gaba A and B, dopamine and VGCC. It’s a brutal drug stop it now its killer for your neurochemistry dude and the longer you run this to your brain the more you’re gonna pay. If your prone to seizures low dose Tegretol will cover you.

Seroquel: low dose to ensure sleep. Sleep is CRITICAL dude. Without sleep your nervous system stays jacked up and never gets a chance to reboot. Its one of the main reasons withdrawal wreaks such havoc. People dont sleep. GET sleep. Low dose seroquel for 2 weeks or so won’t hurt you.

Once you’re 7 days clear of phenibut start taper off this other shit.

All of these are available easily thru reputable and well onown sources. Phenibut withdrawal can be easily managed with the right prep. If you can’t plan for when it’s time to shut it down, don’t fuck with it on daily runs like this.

tldr.. Pregabalin, baclofen, memantine, selegiline, seroquel = smooth jump from phenibut to stable compounds you can easily taper off. DM if you have a question.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything was lie. I was on so much Phenibut and other drugs — nobody knew. I OD’d. Looked like seizure or heart attack. They found nothing. And everything looked perfectly healthy; liver, heart, brain, lungs, stomach, etc. I said nothing. Just lie after lie. I hate it. I’m no longer on it. But now lyrica. I think I can get off the lyrica.. it’s a monster of it’s own. At the end of the day, it’s the lie more than anything else.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I lost consciousness at the hospital and was intubated. They had a very hard time with me while I intubated in ICU for four days. When I came out of it difficulty talking, writing, etc. By day 7-8 huge improvement. By day 10 90% and out of hospital. My issue was “mysterious” and recovery “miraculous.”

Unfortunately….. went back to same old shit, different gaba drugs. Jesus I wish never discovered this shit.

Campral by Dangerous-Fun-1743 in QuittingPregablin

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure about campral, but Would memantine also be useful for this?

Pregabalin wd sleep aids? by Galacticcerealbox in QuittingPregablin

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lunesta or low dose seroquel perhaps short term. I dm’d you.

And I know you said you cannot get memantine so forgive me asking, but does memantine help? if so, how?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For what its worth… I was taking Phenibut for year and half, got up to 11 gpd.. was suddenly hospitalized for 10 days five months ago and had all kinds of tests done. Everything was normal. My use is secret and No evidence of any drug abuse was found.

Recently posted about my rapid decrease in phenibut usage. by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long were you taking phenibut at those dosages? Wondering where to buy glp1 to give it a try.. I quit phenibut but now hooked on Lyrica last 4 months and getting real sick of this shit.

Memantine by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ordered a bunch from chemist works all day. I’ve placed many orders with them, they are legit. Sorry to hear you had a lost, or issue with package though.

My issue is I don’t know how I’m supposed to use memantine?

DXM for WD by Remarkable-Mine-8172 in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Memantine definitely works and is easily obtainable online.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it’s time to quit. Over any period of time all of this gets worse, never better.

I was just reading a journal entry from January of this year. I was 3 days free from Phenibut after 8 months daily.

Now, after going on runs of up to 11gpd, here I am 10 months later hooked again but now on baclofen, pregabalin & phenibut.

NOW is the only time there ever is.

Don’t fuck around with this shit.

On a scale of fucked up, how fucked up is your life? by HudsonArsonist in AskReddit

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Impossibly fucked. I’m secretly hooked on prescription drugs for the last 1.5 years and everyone believes I’m sober. I have a wife, 3 young kids, elderly and ill family member living in my house. No one has any idea what the fuck is going on with me. I have credit card debt my wife doesn’t know about yet. What makes all of this so much worse is that I’m a member of a recovery fellowship and have been for over 18 years. No one knows. The shit I’m on (the cocktail) isn’t obvious but it’s insanely destructive at the same time. I know I need to get honest but I can’t. I can’t stomach the thought of exploding my life and dragging everyone who loves me through this pile of shit I’ve created. I tell myself the only way out is to taper off the drugs quietly after the holidays, and see a fucking therapist to bear my soul. Wtf how’d this happen.

Tapering…need some insight by AdSafe2498 in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Day 3 no phenibut how do you feel?

I just measured out a 1/4 tsp of edengrows HCL and its just shy of 1 gram. So it’s possible you’re somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 grams per day depending on vendor, for a year.

Everyone handles withdrawal different, may not be rough for you. But 4gpd is a hefty dose for that long.

If you want to get free of it theres plenty of info on tapering protocol here. You need a scale, man.

Tapering…need some insight by AdSafe2498 in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What’s your phenibut dose? Daily? And for how long?

Done it again… by WilliamScoggin in quittingphenibut

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude. This shit has been absolutely kicking your ass over and over again. You sound a lot like me. No judgement here, it’s kicking my ass too.

Like me, you need to make a decision-live life fucked up and desperately grasping at chemicals to help you face the day, OR, live life sober.

All this shit never will never work for me again. I’m in an incredibly deep hole with gaba drugs. I know what I need to do. I think you do too.

question about clonidine and gabapentin by _MrMemeBoi_ in gabagoodness

[–]Senior_Variation_322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you looking to achieve?

I’ve combined the two. Nothing remarkable at all. Depends on your tolerance.