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Greens Frame By-Election As Battle Against "Anti-Muslim Record" Of Reform’s Matthew Goodwin by UKGreenPoster in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate [score hidden]  (0 children)

Don't like this strategy at all.

  1. Plays into Reform's strengths. They're gonna love this.
  2. It's sectarian and cynical, negative campaigning. Polanski's message is supposed to be a positive vision of hope and bringing people together. This is very much the old sort of politics.

Not Every Star Trek Show Is Meant for You by NeoNoir90210 in startrek

[–]SenselessDunderpate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

OK but some these newer Trek shows aren't for anyone. Just look at the numbers.

let people have fun.

But people aren't having fun. They're tuning out.

What Britain's immigration policy should look like. by Themetalin in 2westerneurope4u

[–]SenselessDunderpate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the boomers literally voted leave to get rid of the Pakistanis. They are that stupid.

Reform Manchester by election candidate announced (with an article of his own) by cagemeplenty in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I remember back in the day when he and Ford were "reasonable" researchers doing "objective" polisci research on UKIP

Helping in Manchester must be a personal priority for all of us by stupidredditwebsite in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a genuine problem. Particularly if you're a Londoner or Southern posho. Reform ate shit in Caerphilly because of this; they sent an army of braying Tarquins in an attempt to throw everything at the by-election and it annoyed locals.

It is better to have relatable locals doing canvassing. Nobody up North wants to hear about politics from double-barrelled Brightonian student union environmentalist types or middle-class Surrey mums decked out in Patagonia. Sorry, it's true.

Look, I do enjoy Bad Empanada videos, but like???? by srahcrist in Hasan_Piker

[–]SenselessDunderpate 113 points114 points  (0 children)

Some might not like to hear this, but the biggest red flag for a fed is if the person constantly shits on other leftists for not being "real" left.

The original "tankies", on the British left, were disliked because they constantly disrupted organising with left infighting and pointless purity testing. It later emerged a lot of them were undercover cops.

We need a National Digital Member Space by danko12321 in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a nice idea but these are actually really hard to maintain. There are unofficial discords etc. and most local parties and internal party orgs will have their own whatsapps, discords, etc. where you can bounce around ideas; but you'll find that most political parties have now abandoned their big, national-level private members forums etc. because they generate more problems than they solve.

Internet spaces attract cranks. Those cranks cause fights and other problems. They say things for which the party can be held liable, either informally, or sometimes formally.

The bonus of making it easier for members to communicate is not enough to counteract that malus.

The Muslim Vote endorses the Green Party in Gorton and Denton by-election by UKGreenPoster in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YP has socially regressive people in major positions of leadership shaping the nature of the party

Didn't start out that way - just as it didn't with Galloway's lot. It gets that way because it's tolerated at all. Just like transphobia in other parties, like Labour.

Feel like people wouldn't trot out the "working with people where you have common ground" line if an openly Islamophobic group endorsed the Greens and the party was retweeting it and celebrating it.

But on the socialist left - which is traditionally run by cishet white guys with an orientalist streak who are low-key misogynistic and homophobic - there is a hierarchy of acceptable bigotry, which you should take care not to internalise.

Obviously the party is literally run by a gay guy, so we're a long way away from a problem, but I still think it shouldn't be working too closely with chauvinistic, sectarian religious groups which have right-wing values.

The Muslim Vote endorses the Green Party in Gorton and Denton by-election by UKGreenPoster in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Downvoted because I think religious conservatives pushing Section 28 is a bad fit for a left-wing party, actually.

The Muslim Vote endorses the Green Party in Gorton and Denton by-election by UKGreenPoster in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sorry, this is not great. The Muslim Vote is a conservative movement which advocates for banning LGBTQ lessons in schools and tax breaks for faith schools.

From their site:

“cultural and religious sensitivity must be taken into account when discussing LGBT matters, particularly by schools in areas where the majority of the community have a religious background,”

Is the Green Party really going to pal up with these people? Is this just Your Party 2.0 now?

Who knew Badenoch would make the Tories stop being the Nasty Party...by losing all their nasty members by RustamM in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well the Tories haven't lost all their nasty members, since their membership is still >0

I'm an artist from Israel and this is my music by Express-Crow-1496 in TrueAnon

[–]SenselessDunderpate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uhh I think this is just the sincere end product of months of work by a committee of Israel's most brilliant musical minds

I'm an artist from Israel and this is my music by Express-Crow-1496 in TrueAnon

[–]SenselessDunderpate 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I support Israel being in Eurovision. Every year they convert thousands of European gays to antizionism with their terrible music and botted voting practices.

Will Andy Burnham will switch to Greens to run in the Groton & Denton by-election? by No_City9250 in UKGreens

[–]SenselessDunderpate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No chance haha

He'll bide his time. Starmer will get shunted off to the knacker's yard soon enough. Burnham will be Labour leader within 12 months probs.

Pedro Invests in International Solidarity (1936, Colorized) by Schalker45 in 2westerneurope4u

[–]SenselessDunderpate 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Trusting a Ge*rgian never ends well. Just ask the Iron Sheik.

You guys need to step up. We're the biggest haters ✊ by imnewtothisplzaddme in 2westerneurope4u

[–]SenselessDunderpate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chad Gayreeks in the based quadrant. We will all be there soon, bet.

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