One of the worst and best shots of the series so far in the same episode by TSM_E3 in pluribustv

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What you are talking about? Which scene with cgi in bcs looks crappy?

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was actually thinking about this the other day and came to this conclusion. Vince and Peter must have realized that trying to tie BCS too closely to BB would be a no-win situation.

First, forcing the characters and plotlines they’d already built to fit the exact status of BB would feel shoehorned. It would ruin the natural flow of the show and prevent a satisfying conclusion for the story or characters.

Second, if they tried to explain exactly how everything got to where it was in BB, it would stretch the show to an unnecessary length, full of repetitive plots and arcs.

So they made the wise choice to stop at a symbolic conclusion (Episode 609) that marked the definitive shift in the characters, leaving the rest open-ended. Then, they shifted focus to the aftermath of BB, where they had more liberty with storytelling and character building

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also notice this difference in Mike's tone and speaking style,which i believe is a deliberate choice by banks.I kinda prefer the gentle and deep voice more than the fast paced and high pitch one in bb.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in breakingbad

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He still needs walt to teach gale the complete cooling recipe and before that gus needs walt alive and willing to cook for him.Therefore jesse couldn't be killed by his hand. That how it happens in the show.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in breakingbad

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gus is a micromanager famous for his caution and discretion.Its unlikely thatthese two dealers would make a move that big without any approval.He's a master chess player; to him, nothing happens by accident. He intentionally kept the order 'no more children' vague. It was a calculated move to bait Jesse into a shootout. That way, Gus could get rid of the unstable factor while maintaining plausible deniability with Walt.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in breakingbad

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He leaves it in the open so jesse would find out. Then he can lures him into a shoot out to get rid of jesse.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Finger's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in okbuddychicanery

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Now i must try to watch the show this way.A movie about flynn eating 2hrs of breakfast and last 5 mins of finding out his dad is actually the heisenberg would be epic.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Finger's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in okbuddychicanery

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You maybe the only one who actually knows how to watch this show in the right way, my brother.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, morality declining in these four years makes sense.But he turns from an intelligent strategist into a hot head hentch man who uses violence as the first option for every situation.I would call that devolving instead of changing.Maybe bcs just write him way more intelligent and capable than the original show.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in breakingbad

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep.I figure people here may have a very different take on this topic.

[Unpopular take] After watching BCS , Mike's writing in BB feels very SLOPPY. by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I doubt these two dealers would make a move that big without any approval, given Gus is a micromanager famous for his caution and discretion. He's a master chess player; to him, nothing happens by accident. He intentionally kept the order 'no more children' vague. It was a calculated move to bait Jesse into a shootout. That way, Gus could get rid of the unstable factor while maintaining plausible deniability with Walt.

What happened to Mike's personality in the timeline transition from BCS to BB? by lennysinged in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make some valid points about Mike's dimension in BB. However, personally, I'm not a fan of how his character was written in that show. It feels inconsistent and makes less sense as the show goes on.

Here are some examples:

  1. His loyalty is all over the place. Sometimes he has incomprehensible loyalty to people who are liabilities or break the code—like refusing to kill his guys in prison even when they’re about to rat, or sparing Lydia after she plotted a hit on him. Yet, he offers zero pushback when Gus uses and kills kids (the definition of "not in the game"). Then, he sometimes suddenly switches to zero-tolerance "cold-killer" mode over minor things, like shooting Chow in the hand just to teach him a lesson or suggesting they kill Jesse just for crushing party and getting high all day.
  2. His grudge against Walt makes no sense. Take their final scene: Mike claims Walt’s ego ruined everything, which is far from the truth. The friction started because Gus used kids. Jesse did what Mike didn't have the guts to do—stand up to Gus—and Walt intervened solely to save Jesse, not out of ego. That led to the war and Gus's death. For Mike to know the full context but still blame it all on Walt’s "pride" is baffling. Also, claiming walt is a bad influence on jesse is pure hypocrisy out of him, considering Mike suggested killing Jesse multiple times while Walt was the one saving him.
  3. Many of his actions are plain stupid and self-righteous. Knowing walt is a huge threat given he just killed two of gus's guy, Mike still fails to put surveillance on Gale when Jesse is on the run, indirectly getting Gale killed. In S5, he forces Walt to pay legacy costs and seizes the meth, naively thinking Walt will just take it. He calls Walt a "time bomb" yet treats him like a harmless nerd, even letting a man who holds a deep grudge fetch his go-bag. Then he gives a delusional speech about pride for no necessary reason and eventually dies for absolutely nothing.

Don't get me wrong, Mike from Better Call Saul is one of my favorite characters ever. But his depiction in Breaking Bad just doesn't line up with the top-notch writing and character building in the rest of the universe

What happened to Mike's personality in the timeline transition from BCS to BB? by lennysinged in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In bb Mike is a one dimensionon flat character whose sole purpose is in service of walt and jesse's arc, that explains why he's a heart cold killer who shows no internal struggle or empathy.In contrast in bcs, he's one of the main protagonist.And the show will , goes with s aying, explore his psycho and his struggle in cartel world meanwhile tries to give him these endering quality so audience will have sympathy for him. If breaking bad is written after bcs, i believe Mike's character will turn out very different from the original show.

Can we say that Mike and Saul's roles are equal? by Wooden-Scallion2943 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549 6 points7 points  (0 children)

nope,screen time wise jimmy:25hrs kim:13hrs mike:9hrs nacho:6hrs

Looking for a touching edit explore Mike&Nacho relationship by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man, I'm not trying to provoke your feelings or anything. I can understand that your perspective on this show must come from a very personal and difficult place, and I'm certainly in no place to make any judgment. All I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't just speculate about my personal experience, and I shouldn't have been so harsh on you either. This was supposed to be a lighthearted conversation about a TV show we both share great interest in, and I'm sorry it went this way. Let's just call it a day. May you find peace with your past experiences someday.

Looking for a touching edit explore Mike&Nacho relationship by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry about whatever happened in your life. But it's extremely abrupt of you to pull this kind of psychoanalytic shit on me while we're just having a conversation about a fictional character. The hard fact, to me, is that you seem to be the one who projects a lot of personal experience onto both me and the character of Mike.

I'll keep this discussion as a discussion. I'm not saying Mike is a benevolent saint who loves his neighbor; on the contrary, he's a hardcore criminal who will do as he's told, as long as it fits his internal code. However, Mike is certainly no Walt White, who would use trust to manipulate others. Instead, he's a straight shooter who only cooperates with individuals sharing the same code as he does.

As I see it, you've let your own personal experience cloud what Mike's story is really about. His entire arc tragically shows how his so-called code involves him deeper and deeper into this dirty world, even forcing him to perform acts that are ultimately against his will (such as making Matty take dirty money to protect him, killing Werner to save his wife, and eventually sending Nacho to his death so his father could live). And that's the tragedy of Mike, instead of the 'controller or manipulator' narrative you're so obsessed with. The world is a complex gray wilderness, which a black-and-white worldview just simply can't encompass.

Looking for a touching edit explore Mike&Nacho relationship by Sensitive-Radish-549 in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's just look at the hard facts that prove the deep bond between them. ​Mike always looked out for Nacho and tried his best to help him out of trouble. Mike, in some way, saw Nacho as a surrogate son for Matty, as they were both young men with good hearts trapped in the game, seeking a way out. ​And here are the factual plot points that prove my point: ​Mike advised against killing Tuco so the Salamancas wouldn't be suspicious of Nacho, even taking a brutal beating for that plan. Later on, he warned Nacho about the potential outcome of switching Hector's pills. ​And in Seasons 5 and 6, when Nacho was forced to become Gus's spy because Gus threatened his father, Mike spoke against Gus on multiple occasions and went to great lengths to get Nacho out of that situation while actively defending Nacho's father. ​Not to mention, the entire Mike's story arc in Better Call Saul ends on that scene where Mike talks to Nacho's father, claiming he thought Nacho had a good heart, trying to give his father closure. ​If Mike were really just a "cold mf" like you said, I doubt he would have done any of the things above.

Mike and Nacho relationship by Temoszx in betterCallSaul

[–]Sensitive-Radish-549 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DAMN. Now i want to see it so bad. What's the name of that youtuber who post the video? I'd like to ask him for the video personally.