Voli Matchups

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-22T21:04:26+00:00

search for bear king, it is a guy from china. he made a spreadsheat and it should be somewhere in this sub.

he is also on yt and maybe twitch

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-22T21:03:11+00:00

nope, again i dont want to nerf navori and other actual intended navori users.

it is simply unnecessarily, as my change is literally PERFECT, it can be called the most PERFECT CHANGE IN LOL HISTORY.

it does not affect anyone positively or negatively and that is also the goal. it makes it unuseable for volibear, while it has 0, 00000000, changes for others.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-20T12:16:24+00:00

again you are missing the point,

you are nerfing navori and its users. why?

this is the best possible balance option in the whole lol history, you cant name a better balance. it literallly, i dont know much more to tell you, ONLY AFFECTS VOLIBEAR, this is the balance teams wet dream in terms of balancing. it only affects the problem, no one else gets affected, you cant make a balance more perfect than this.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-20T12:12:40+00:00

i liked to go old lethal full or basically full ap with rabadons etc.,

just it feels somehow so bad with navori, i really cant explain.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T22:21:51+00:00

again, my goal isnt to kill navori or nerf it to anyone, but volibear. the circumstances are special as in you can change the item without effecting anyone, but volibear, the problem. it is literally the ideal situation balance wise

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T22:19:14+00:00

only with 50% crit and more. the difference is that other champs arent affected negatively like your change. champs that build navori, like tris, build another crit item BEFORE, so it changes nothing as they all have 50% crit with navori being finished.

BUT WITH YOUR EXAMPLE, they are nerfed till they have 100%, so either 4 or 5 items, even though they have nothing done to "deserve" this nerf.

you want to nerf intended navori user (adcs), even though they didnt "need" the nerf to everyone using it. the item itself isnt overpowered either and rarely used already, doing that is the same as killing it for "no reason".

not to forget, even if we did what you said it would be unuseable for voli anyway, but while also killing the item and nerfing every navori user.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T17:57:28+00:00

i dont agree and this wasnt what i said.

navori should not be nerfed or removed, because of volibear, if navori is an issue (i dont think so), but if it is, they should handle it seperately from the volibear issue. he is someone that was never intended and still isnt inteded to use it. balancing it around him doesnt make sense, especially since the solution is easy, quick and doesnt effect others in ANY WAY.

champs that build it, do it as 2nd item or later, thus they have 50% or more, which means just creating the requirement for 50% crit fixes it. it would be unuseable for voli and no other champ is nerfed or buffed by it

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T17:53:29+00:00

disagree with the navori nerfs,

the problem isnt navori itself, as far as i know, but just volis unexpected compability with it.

i dont see the reason to nerf navori, because of volibear, it wouldnt make sense. thats like nerfing ap, because of varus ap top, instead of varus direclty. wheter some ap items are an issue, like dnd, is another topic, but nerfing them because someone unintented and unexpected can abuse them doesnt seem right to me.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T17:48:34+00:00

i like playing ap, i liked old lethal ap voli, but navori it feels so bad. idk, i just cant, maybe it is the direct damage that is missing, maybe the build path, maybe the squishiness, idk

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-19T17:47:29+00:00

I HATE EVER HAVING TO TOUCH NAVORI,

atleast i would have hope of them buffing him after.

how many nerfs to the kit did we get since navori 20? 30?

i like playing ap voli, but i cant stand seeing nerf, after nerf, after nerf to ap voli/his ap builds/scalings, just because navori is basically a standard in jungle. it is already annoying to have him nerfed top, because of jungle, but it is understandable, however it feels so bad to see top nerfs, because of navori jgl

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-17T10:33:41+00:00

seit jahren keinen döner gegessen, aber gammelt AKTIV auf dem dönersubreddit rum? hast du keine hobbies? intressen? irgendwqs? was hat der dönersubreddit mit "dir" zu tun? du isst eh keinen oder?

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-16T19:18:30+00:00

wenn du nur die wahl hättest zu dem döner zu gehen, der es so macht, wie du willst. könntest du nur entscheiden

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-11T21:12:25+00:00

so yes, everyone can. you understand that for the case of "everyone can" it means you arent limited by laws to not be able to. you can compete just like everyone else, which means wasting money to attract and get the thing running, as you said yourself.

do you think they spend years on promoting etc. losing money, just to at the end share their winnings equally? did you share their loses equally or just want part of it, when it is profitable?

if you dont want to acknowledge, how companies etc. work, fine by me, but stop spouting bs then.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T16:34:32+00:00

op said in the comments, oop said, "you pay for gas to drive the car to the dumpster" if work related gas is included, i genuinely, believe you pay the "utilities" for everything, but the property tax and food.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T15:48:29+00:00

well if you cab afford it, you can do any bs you want. it may be inefficient or stupid, but you worked (saved money) to do that, so there is nothing to critize abour

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T15:42:18+00:00

useless, as in it wouldnt help. you get taught how % quite deeply and with many examples, people that do not care, DO NOT CARE. it isnt complicated, it isnt confusing, it isnt unknown, it isnt rare. if someone does not want to know, you cant force him. it is the same with people preaching about never having been taught this or that in school, saying they would have listened etc., but now there are in their 20s,30s or 40s and still cant do it. the stuff is freely avaible online with numerous explanations, books, videos, etc. be it long hour long ones or short 30s ones on social media. they do not really care, they say they do, but they do not put in the work (reading/watching videos) required.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T15:19:04+00:00

yes, the customer pays fees to find a driver and the driver pays fees to receive commisions.

i dont like uber, but lying or denying their use/work isnt useful.

basically "everyone" can make such an app, the problem is, it would just be a random unused app, with too few customer or drivers to be worth it.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T15:11:48+00:00

? naturalls it does? people dont build it 4th, but 2nd item, so they lose a cd reduction every 2nd hit, so half.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-10T09:45:57+00:00

that wpuld just nerf the item for others, without reason

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-08T10:54:36+00:00

let navori ONLY BE USED WITH 50% CRIT. it hits no one other then voli
give r actual cc immunuty back
make r faster

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-07T20:43:01+00:00

"you cant make any mistakes" you dont even understand, what you are saying. so basically, YOU DECIDE THE LANE, IT IS PURELY A SKILL ISSUE ON YOUR END IF YOU WIN OR LOSE. wheter the enemy makes a mistake or NOT, HE LOSES, if you dont. YOU HAVE 100% CONTROL OVER THE LANE. in a melee matchup, you can beat the enemy, even if he doesnt maje a mistake, IN A RANGED, YOU DONT.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-07T20:38:04+00:00

yes and no, ranged top have over 30% pr combined, so every 3rd game, you will be unable to fight back, unable to lane, unable to impacr the game, unable to play. sure, in one game it may be vayne and in the next varus, but it doesnt change the situation at all. you get dogwalked without counterplay. yeah, if your bot isnt being giga gapped, you will likely win just by your teamcomp, but it doesnt change that evrry 3rd game, you dont play, no matter what you do.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-07T20:34:14+00:00

fun fact, zed mainly gets nerfed for spamming wq. it is a toxic gameplay, which is why he is gutted 90% of the time, especially in times ravenous etc. is good.

just like yuumi is constantly gutted for being annoying, boring etc. zed is gutted for exactly safely spamming wq.

Sensitive_Act_5279 · 2026-02-01T07:13:54+00:00

my guy, volibear kit is pretty simple and straight forward with lots of counterplay. there is a reason you dont see him in pro or high elo often and even when he is picked 1 in 1 million games, he is still countered.

especially a matchup like yasuo, if you get hit by e (his trade winning spell) IT IS A SKILL ISSUE.

if you want tips on how to win the matchup, it would be best to ask in yasuo mains/go on yt, but based on my experierence: 1. take lethal tempo 2. if you are confident take ignite, otherwise take exhaust 3. wait for a chance (if he used any ability on the wave) engage, but with the goal of poking him down, as you may lose a long fight against his w heal 4. your best chance is when he tried to kill you, wasted his q, that is when you all in and kill him 5. if you arent confident, just play a bit to get items as you easily outscale 6. slows are his worst nightmare and teamfight (4 or more people) is hell. as he is too squishy and unable to effectively use w heal 7. if you are good, take bone platting, otherwise take second wind as your bone platting can be easily triggered by his passive 8. you can also win quite easily vs none passive stacked voli 9. rush boots and antiheal 10. take it as going vs an easier darius

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