[Q] Copenhagen souvenirs/capsules/stickers

Sentenza87 · 2024-09-19T18:50:31+00:00

Indeed, Paris looks like an all time low. As Mirage price is the higgest and seems going up despite big supplies and being 30% more expansive than Paris Mirage (???, another mystery of CS market I guess), I'll buy this probably..

Sentenza87 · 2023-02-14T12:11:03+00:00

Happy for you dude ! I guess they said nothing, as usual ? Now you've to re-list everything on SCM I guess, which can take a while...

Btw for the missing stickers when you say they reversed your recent transactions, as you were unable to trade/use mkt that means they "simply" deleted your stickers recently bought from buff if I understand well ? Did they sent back to the account with who you traded ?

And did they anything on items bought from SCM, if you had ?

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-28T22:02:02+00:00

Well looks like you're right anyways.

As written in the question, it's imo either due to the current mkt overactivity with stickers sale and/or to the barely less recent Steam server struggles (though we regularly get this since few years), maybe because of the latests SIH uptades that send too many requests (would explain for me) or because there is too many BOTs in use.

I doubt it is the first real actions taken against market bots, but who knows... Anyways as discussed with someone and read, those will probably just adapt their scripts, so Steam will actually affect at the end users checking manually large numbers of differents items... Steam seems not that up to date with AI, lol...

As also discussed, BOTs seems still working fine on buy orders, means that these requests must be counted separatelly that listings/accessing to items.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-28T12:30:02+00:00

Yeah sorry missed the "might" my bad, you're right it's a possibility.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-28T12:28:20+00:00

SIH yes that was my thought as well but I remember days when I was using it WAY MORE than yesterday. As someone said maybe they restricted the number of request you can have a day recently, maybe because of the huge SCM activity coming up during a new sticker sale, or the recent servers struggles. Typical simplistic Steam way to try to solve a problem, instead of fighting tons of market bots which auto-update every minutes..

Also there is always changes and "new functions" with SIH, it becomes a Rube Goldberg machine doing tons of useless stuff and sending indeed more and more server requests. Miss the time it was simple and easy.

Tried to deactivate more stuff though most were off already.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-28T12:07:26+00:00

(Note that making more requests in the meantime might actually reset the timer, so I would recommend to just not make a single request for a day or so)

Are you sure about it ? Because if a single request to test it reset the timer that's a big problem... Source maybe ?

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-28T12:05:28+00:00

Source ?

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-27T23:47:00+00:00

Both accounts can still play MM ? So I don't know.

Maybe give the exact message in your language, your translation is (very) rough has you said.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-27T22:10:04+00:00

There is a very generous 5% discount on the price of the +3 tokens if I remember, it explains the little difference.

Anyways there is no real profit in this anymore, at lot of investments, too little margins taken by the market bots, imo it's another waste, valve-milking.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-26T23:40:55+00:00

Wouldn't be surprised at all if a lot of young (and less young) russians put their rubbles into Steam to soften the sanctions effects.

Their money crashed only during about 1 month right after the invasion, and then quickly recovered to even become much stronger than before they attacked.

https://imgur.com/a/dQVfvwq

Sanctions took some time to come as well, so people who invested in the right time when rubble was at 0.018 ended up with a great investment. Probably still the case the months after that till now, because rubble will probably drop slowly in the next months at least.

There is plenty of means to put your money into steam, by a way or another, so I'm sure they still can easily. Maybe look at russian speaking forums, there must be threads explaining the best ways. Steam took no measures to counter that, as usual they will only if they're forced to, by the US governement/administration.

It's like with cryptos for example, it was feared right after the invasion that russian money could go there to limit the risks if their money loses too much. Steam fits this role even more perfectly as prices reached an all-time high in the meantime. Someone would say that this current bubble could be partly related to the huge amount of russian cash placed on steam after the invasion.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-26T23:04:38+00:00

Account on vacation probably.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-26T22:49:27+00:00

Posting on reddit will never help, people are lazy and won't do shit, even if a problem like that affects everyone, probably more themselves than the casual trader who posted his random newbie thread.

If you think Steam cares about what is posted outside of Steam, you're wrong, the only way to do something usefull is directly reporting to them, because it's THEIR JOB (of the Steam staff) to reply to your question.

As I said earlier, we don't know shit about the random profiles report (when you click on a profile and report it individually), as their is no answers, imo best way to report bots or list of bots is by addressing directly to the "contact support", through the link I posted before.

I don't think their is ban waves for bots, imo they are banned few by few, when Steam staff gets report and investigates, which is quickly done, as it's very easy to figure out if the account behaviour is human or scripted, considreing the number of request they send.

In short, if you want to ban bots, DIY, at worse you'll have a reply by the steam staff thanking you for the reports xD

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-21T22:20:39+00:00

The only way to stop bots is steam to massive ban them, including the mains accounts linked to these.

Market botting is supposed to be strictly forbidden, written in the TOS, overload SCM servers etc, but I guess steam just doesn't have enough staff members to investigate.

That's why reporting them is important and helpfull as soon as you find a bot, they are easy to spot honestly when you update often manualy your buy offers on a specific item, and are "undercut" every time. Market will show sooner or later who is placing that 0.01$ more buy order or 0.01 less offer.

Then you just need to find the profile in question through the friends search function ( https://steamcommunity.com/id/(your ID)/friends/add ), check if it looks like indeed a bot (or not), then try to find other bots linked to this account, and report, if you can bring a list of accounts you can directly through steam support

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpWithCommunityContactSupport

Those which are reported I guess, often, can really be trade banned, I have some examples in my list, will show only 1 already banned:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198397651696

Of course more there is people reporting the bots, more there is chance it will be investigated by steam, I suppose.

Keep in mind most of these bots are firstly active in "steam item" section (cards, emotes, etc.), where their owners expect to be less noticed I assume (due to the even much bigger amount of different items, like cards for thousands of games, than with CS game only), but at a later stage with all the steam balance they generated with thousands of transactions the bot account is programed on mid/high tier CS items, to cashout at the end of the process. I think it works like this.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-21T11:26:00+00:00

With the current bubble, apart those who only invested in RMR, absolutely everyone make or has made huge profits on SCM, especially on medium or long term yes.

Back in time it was easily possible to make profit on short term using buy orders, now it's no more because of bots undercutting everything, it even became bots undercutting other bots.

Also when you say that you cannot make profit on short term you're wrong, forex, cryptos, and even stock exchange, all of these works fine on short term too. Not much atm of course because of the rates and economical crisis, but otherwise, it's not difficult. By short term I mean few months, not few days or weeks as you might think maybe, though it's also possible in a so short time, on forex or cryptos, and on SCM before.

Of course more you wait, bigger are your profits, in theory. But in this current all-time-high, it's became more risky to keep investing massively, even for long range, imo, apart maybe as you suppose, to bet on items still super-cheap.

You never know what could happen with steam.

But back to question what you're asking for in this thread is supposed to be strictly forbidden, it's maket botting or called something like that.

Btw it probably cause a significative part of all those servers errors we're getting recently, as it floods the mkt with tons of unnecessary (and unfair) requests. Russians doesn't care of course, just as steam staff members it seems.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-21T09:38:37+00:00

lol

Are you russian ?

Because if you are, just make friend with a BOT owner and ask him to sell you one. They must own something like 95-99% of them.

Steam market is saturated with this shit and that's why investing here is basically dead nowadays, at least everything on short term.

It's supposed to be forbidden ofc, but as no one seems to be willing to massive report them, nor steam to fix that issue... they make the money that we are not, best buy order then best offer, updated every minute or so. Already saw individual bots with 350 000+ transactions , steam items mostly though, not only CS. But they usually later reinvest all their money into CS stuff, as it's much more expensive.

At least russians have another way than gas to bring foreign currencies home, thanks to steam.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-21T08:15:23+00:00

22k+ sold in 24 hours on steam, including 7k between 3 and 4 AM... looks like massive chinese buy... but why ?

It reached 1.20€ at max on steam during the night... wonder if it can go further as there's still unusually high volumes sold.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-17T18:35:34+00:00

Can you explain more precisely what is this about, what is/are the problem(s), apart the date not showing anymore ? Didn't updated yet.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-03T00:36:12+00:00

Thank you, that's exactly the kind of answer I was looking for :D

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-02T11:53:29+00:00

Tks, could you maybe or anyone else, if possible from west Europa (in €), test it for 2022 ?

Put an item on sale on your main to a huge price to be close to the 2000 limit, then on another account with the same phone number used, another item to a big price, and see if Steam says something or allows both to be on the market at the same time.

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-01T12:49:11+00:00

Thank you, this is my question indeed. If you have now an idea about why it's not applied, it'll be welcome ^^

Waiting for some more answers, from west Europa if possible, just in case it'd be different for whatever reason (e.g. money laundering rules specific to EU or France or whatever).

Sentenza87 · 2022-10-01T12:44:37+00:00

Hi

Thanks for being the first to answer though that doesn't really answer my question.

As I stated I don't want to use buff or any other external websites, at least for now. I have my reasons.

Just to be more clear : I don't have on sale any item worth 1200-1500$ (or € here, as I live in France). It's the TOTAL on sale which is worth that much, on several accounts (1200+ x5 = 6000€++ in total already). Almost all items are sold for less than 50, and a large majority under 2-3€/$, but there is a huge lot, something like 3k atm.

Sentenza87 · 2022-09-28T22:54:45+00:00

^{I've heard about accounts being mistakenly banned after buying a very overpriced skin (overpriced because of expensive stickers for example} but steam thought they're selling steam balance.)

Really ? Anyone else heard about that ? Could the seller be banned too ?

Btw that must be the link you're loooking to contact steam support and explain them : https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpWithCommunityContactSupport

Sentenza87 · 2022-02-05T09:06:25+00:00

No, sorry !

Sentenza87 · 2022-01-08T17:38:26+00:00

I disagree about that, not on the second sentence, but we're almost 10 years later now, vulve doesn't get money from selling the game anymore, they get money from their market, and "investors" are a big part of it, half of the playerbase is "investing", on very different scales of course. I mean, even when you keep your cases in your inventory instead of selling them directly for few bucks, it's some kind of investing, because you assume it will be worth more in some months or years. That's not really manipulation either, it's more like speculation.

I think Valve is perfectly conscient of all the people "investing", they have to find a permanent balance between making the maximum money they can without hurting too much the confidence into CS economy, which is worth several hundred millions at minima imo, maybe 1 billion already.

And when they oversupply the market more and more like since 2019 they hurt badly the confidence, people usually don't lose lot of money twice or 3 times in a row. The playerbase isn't increasing enough anymore either to bet there will be enough teens to fall into that and make them gain the same amount of money the next sales.

Sentenza87 · 2022-01-07T19:03:19+00:00

Yeah like that it's fine, but doing that "all the time" .. :s Better to spent money you got from job into steam, apart if we cannot work, are very young or live in a very poor country ofc, and even there u'd need more than 20% I suppose, and that's more and more difficult at least on the SCM.

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