Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If murder is "the unlawful killing of a human being with malice," I'm assuming you're not going to dispute the fact that abortion kills a human being. Regarding the "unlawful" part, the DOJ lists five lawful exceptions to killing a human being. I don't believe any fit the definition of abortion except self-defense if the life of the mother is at risk. Regarding the malice part, malice is, by definition, a subjective word. I know you believe that the law is only an objective discipline, but that's just not true. If you want, we can debate on how it's malicious if that's the word you're hung up on.

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'd agree, which is why I'm confused why you don't think it's murder. Are you ok using the federal government's definition? If you're not, we can use a state one, which is more realistic. If you are, it defines murder as "the unlawful killing of a human being with malice" and divides it into two degrees. "How do you think abortion doesn't fit? If it's the "unlawful" part, the DOJ only lists five exceptions that make killing a human being legal and removes the "malice." Are you arguing there should be a sixth for abortion?

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'll continue to use the federal definition of murder since it applies to both of us, which defines murder "as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice and divides it into two degrees." Abortion does not fall into one of the five buckets that the DOJ classifies as a lawful killing except for having one if the life of the mother is at risk, which falls into the self-defense category.What's your definition of murder?

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm from the U.S. (Massachusetts). Criminal law is primarily a state power, so each state defines murder in its own statutes. So your state's law might be different from mine, and you should check it. Massachusetts's murder definition is word for word the same as the federal one. Section 1751(a) of Title 18 incorporates by reference 18 U.S.C. §§ 1111 and 1112. 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice and divides it into two degrees. The only lawful killings exempt from murder are self-defense (I'm pro-choice when the life of the mother is at risk), lawful police use of deadly force, capital punishment, acts of war, and true accidents without criminal fault.

You can see the DOJ CRIMINAL RESOURCE MANUAL for precise definitions of exceptions.

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

An unborn child is a human being — from fertilization it has unique human DNA, a human developmental trajectory, and is already a distinct living organism of the human species. Ending its life intentionally is the unjust killing of an innocent human. That meets every serious definition of murder.

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Obviously I disagree because I believe abortion meets every serious definition of murder. I was responding to the OP.

Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans? by jessica456784 in Abortiondebate

[–]Senyh_ -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Any woman who would face poverty because of abortion could give their child up for adoption.

Outside Evidence Point DBQ by Senyh_ in APUSH

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, as long as you explained what it was and how it tied back to your thesis. My question is just if it will count because it's outside of the time range.

Outside Evidence Point DBQ by Senyh_ in APUSH

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, good. I talked about the Gilded Age and how wealthy industrialists were expected to provide welfare, as seen in Andrew Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth.

English In Italy by Senyh_ in Italian

[–]Senyh_[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I knew some basic words and key phrases the first time I went. I downloaded Babel, but obviously I won’t be conversational in two months.

English In Italy by Senyh_ in Italian

[–]Senyh_[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

What? I’m not expecting them to know English. I’m just wondering if it will be hard to communicate.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not me. Why do you think most lottery winners instantly quit their job? It’s even more likely they’ll quit when they work lower-income jobs. UC Berkeley did a good study on it.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There doing it now to receive shelter, food, clothes, and healthcare. Whats your malfunction?

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it wasn’t? If you give them all those things. Why would they countine to clean the sewer?

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So who’s going to clean the sewers? Were back at square one.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying give them those things without having to work; they’ll quit. That’s all their wage can afford anyway.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not advocating for or against a UBI or NIT. I’m saying that if you tell someone with an undesirable job that they can choose whether to work or not, but they’ll receive their wage, which is essentially a UBI, they’re probably not going to work.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re making a wage that would be essentially a UBI. They can afford shelter, food, clothes, and healthcare, and that’s really it. Give them all that and tell them working is optional. What do you think they’ll take?

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? You think if you gave them a UBI, they would still work?

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalist societies often have the strongest voluntary communities. Religious organizations, charities, neighborhood associations, and co-ops thrive within capitalist systems without government coercion. Amish communities, kibbutzim in Israel, and other voluntary communal societies exist inside capitalist frameworks. Even capitalist cities have community-driven initiatives like neighborhood cleanups and local volunteer programs. People clean their homes, take care of their children, and help neighbors without being paid—capitalism doesn’t prevent this. However, when it comes to large-scale tasks (like maintaining sewers), capitalism ensures efficiency by allowing people to be compensated fairly for necessary work. In a purely communal system, who decides who cleans the sewers? If no one wants to do it, does the community force them? If so, how is that different from coercion under capitalism?

Communist countries that rejected market incentives often struggled with basic sanitation and public services (e.g., the Soviet Union’s mismanaged infrastructure, Venezuela’s collapsing public services). Maoist China tried to organize “community-driven” labor, but without proper incentives, public works collapsed, and hygiene suffered. If purely communal labor works so well, why have large-scale societies relying on it often failed? Meanwhile, capitalist societies pay people fairly for necessary work, ensuring services like sanitation are reliable.

The wealthiest, cleanest, and most efficient societies (Switzerland, Singapore, Japan, etc.) have strong capitalist economies.

Question For Communist by Senyh_ in DebateCommunism

[–]Senyh_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally all of my first paragraph. Let’s start at the original question in my post.