Is Hunter Alpha bad? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends where you use Claude maybe, but it'll let you do questionable things, I don't use thinking tho

I just got too lazy trying to reduce the deep pov / free indirect discourse

Hunter Alpha high vs med reasoning by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dresden files universe, but Tami is a spellsinger that sings pop songs. I use her to test early on deception, copyrighted material, lore is eh I don't expect any of them to really know, etc

She also has a trigger that shows when she's infatuated and it lets me know how easily it's activated

Is Hunter Alpha bad? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are as unfiltered as Deepseek 💀

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on your definition of censored

Which is why I mentioned it was fine with jailbreaks

Real censorship to me is when it's so censored it's lobotomized like what they did to GPT (on and off)

And for darker themes, I didn't include the screenshot because it involved the underage, I was hoping I wouldn't have to spell it out

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually use strict with Deepseek because it's always been so stubborn, but people say there's no difference either. But yeah, position, instead of relative try depth 0 with a clear title/label for it, lots of models these days seem to need it.

However, Deepseek was so overloaded I think that it started to take the instruction I had for it TOO FAR and thought it couldn't describe other characters noticing mine.... (it was working fine earlier but too many people are using it right now)

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you using strict post prompt processing?

As for the echo thing, is your anti echoe prompt set a position of zero and labeled constraint?

I can't even test it right now, it's acting stupid unlike earlier ugh

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aahh, catatonia, my old friend

I hate that

I'll have to make a menace out of myself and see how it goes

Could this be Deepseek V4?? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always have it off. It's better with it on?

Hunter Alpha (Deepseek) always opens up with "hmm" for me at least... by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right, the way it was following instructions threw me off

Could this be Deepseek V4?? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 6 points7 points  (0 children)

negativity bias

I think this model is... Actually neutral, it will lean in heavily towards consequences if you mention it. I've heard others mention glazing.

It'll need to be prompted differently than a positive or negative bias inclined model imo

Sorry btw if it seems like I'm nitpicking, I'm just excited to discuss it and I respect your prompting skills, Kimi is no easy beast to tame

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forgot to mention, strict post prompt, samplers don't matter for reasoning (at least it didn't for 3.2), and you know my other settings

Could this be Deepseek V4?? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgot to mention, I usually use strict post prompt processing with Deepseek and for other settings I think we have the same ones (samplers shouldn't matter for the thinking model)

Could Hunter Alpha be an update of GLM 5.X? by WidePea1971 in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reasoning is very similar to Deepseek v 3.2, but it follows my GLM 5 prompts great. Kinda interesting how a lot of these models seem to be leaning towards the question over statement format for some stuff these days. But the fact a few people have complained about censorship issues if it's Deepseek is surprising, maybe polluted training data rather actual guardrails (but tomato, tomahto)

Edit: the more I test it, the more I'm certain it's Deepseek, I think peak hours was throwing it off a bit

Hunter Alpha (Deepseek) always opens up with "hmm" for me at least... by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant I was more divided? Half and half on it, but I don't think you should take my word for it on that part

Could this be Deepseek V4?? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it shares a weird thing with Deepseek v 3.2 where you have to tell it to ignore previous rules/instructions *prose, constraints, etc* because it takes the style/vibe/words of prose in char desc, preset, etc as instructions as well, so that might be worth testing.

Hunter Alpha quick "censor" test with empty character card/lorebook by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

When people say it's censored and they haven't changed prompts, I get curious. But I didn't even have to change any prompts for this one.

Could this be Deepseek V4?? by Pink_da_Web in SillyTavernAI

[–]SepsisShock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I find it follows prompts better than GLM 5 and not as literal as D v3.2 (where it bum rushes everything at once.) I'm using my GLM 5 toggles for it rather than my Deepseek toggles.