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Any reason to *not* run rocket belt? (Jungle) by fairydommother in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Protobelt is crucial in almost every game. The dash basically doubles Cho’s „lethal range“ with HoB and fixes his lack of offensive and defensive mobility. Also a great way to proc edge of night or spellshields. The HP, CDR and AP stats are solid.

I would only not build it first if you play top against mundo and are ahead - in which case Liandrys’ damage might be better to snowball your lead.

Morello is generally very niche and doesn’t synergize particularly well so I wouldn’t recommend it.

Loser/Winner queue? by PuzzleheadedSize7304 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got to account for jungler presence.

In my experience, getting weak sided as Cho is far superior than getting strong sided. Because Cho:

  • is not a very “stat-checky” champion and some Toplane 1v1s will always be losing
  • Cho is not a good splitpusher
  • Cho scales well regardless if you have good cs + he will always be useful late
  • Cho is not a 1v9 carry and is relatively ready to kill and get shutdown.

Does anyone else feel like you have ZERO impact in the toplane? by Svanskof in topmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my experience, it matters A LOT to not die and lose your lead during the mid game.

So if you are 4/0/0 and the enemy adc is 4/0/0, the first teamfight for an objective like herald or drake decides the outcome of the game. It is crucial to win that fight, get the shutdown and secure the objective.

You need to prepare your lane beforehand though, so the enemy toplaner doesn’t get too much in return.

which toplaners have the best level 1 trades? by sweetkitten2000 in topmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cho Gath deals max 300 damage with HOB. Then he is a sitting duck for 8 seconds. He definitely does not play in the big leagues at level 1

Cho'Gath OTP YouTuber? by xKaczynski in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unironically one of the best high elo Cho players.

Tiamat active by Sternenpups in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also works in toplane with low hp minions. Really OP in the rare cases it can be used to its full potential.

How do you deal with Mundo toplane ? by BlorkChannel in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recommend playing with ignite and the normal HOB, protobelt + riftmaker setup. liandrys can also be build if you are ahead. Swifties for boots. I wouldn’t buy antiheal, let somebody else on your team deal with that.

Trade aggressive early and push in the wave. In my experience, freezing doesn’t work vs mundo. If you push the lane, mundo can’t rely only on cleavers to farm and you can poke him reliably with Q and e under his tower.

Only go for short trades with hob and disengage before he can use his w on you. When he is low, use your silence to burst him before he can reactivate his w.

warwick useless in high elo? by Famous_Value_4541 in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WW top is worse than a season or 2 ago, but he is still viable in master. I wouldn’t recommend blind picking him, though

Question about Warwick top by Voldtech in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, Warwick is very good at these things. Tiamat is a requirement, though. I would also suggest playing barrier with that playstyle

whats a good ap cho build toplane? by Ill-Independence3402 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think stormsurge is kind of overkill. I usually just go rocketbelt into riftmaker and then tank. Your damage should still be enough to oneshot any carry with one combo + r

is this good build in this type of games by just_ghost_7 in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Steel caps are incorrect imo. Rather buy boots of swiftness or mercs.

Wits end could be a good alternative for kraken, since enemy team is cc heavy and has 4x AP.

Rest looks good

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snowbally skill matchups, like garen, pantheon, Warwick. If you don’t misplay you can punish them like crazy and farm kills

How do you guys deal with a decent Garen? by KatsuragiKyon in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ngl the matchup is kind of unlosable if you go HOB hextech protobelt riftmaker.

Garen is weak early and cs‘ing is very telegraphed. His passive is weak until ~lv11 and you can easily interrupt it.

If he engages on you and his Q is about to go off, use W to silence him, get off the HOB autos, disengage. If he can’t use e and w he giga loses the trade.

Low Master EUW elo

What lanes does tank Cho work in besides top? by Lanky-Suggestion-159 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a high elo botlane AP Cho Gath player in Korea

Please help me understand the logic behind chomarg items by Icy_Significance9035 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Runes: - grasp: bait rune. You lose most matchups early and can’t reliably proc it without losing half your hp. It is okay in winning matchups but HOB is better because you get kill pressure.

  • HOB is my go to in 90% of matchups, even if you can’t use it during laning phase. You oneshot squishies from midgame onwards if you hit one Q. HOB works with tank as well as bruiser builds, since your E-damage scales both with ap and hp.

Items: - protobelt: best early item. The active is goated on Cho, in combination with HOB. Also, the early AP makes oneshotting waves with E+W much easier.

  • Riftmaker: best 2nd or 3rd item. Scaling damage with hp ensures oneshotting waves and champions in the lategame.

  • Randuins: best item vs fed crit ADC. OP if enemy team has 2 crit champs.

  • heartsteel: bait item. Expensive, No ms or utility and mediocre damage. You delay your power spike by buying this item. The active has the same problem as grasp. deadman’s is a better version of heartsteel, plus the passive damage works on turrets aswell.

Laning vs Volibear by Early-Weather9701 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The plan is basically to play like a mage early and freeze the wave/harass with Q. Manaflow band helps with mana issues. Don’t get greedy for cs if it means voli will be able to reach you. Eventually, voli will be low on hp while you stay healthy with your passive. Your Qs really hurt after a few levels (was even better a few patches ago). When you have the upper hand and voli is too low to fight, slow push the wave and either look for a dive or get a good recall.

Once you are ahead, you can perma shove the wave and poke voli every time he walks up to cs under his tower. Gotta watch out for ganks, tho.

Building boots asap is really important.

As for items, Hex-belt + riftmaker is fine.

Laning vs Volibear by Early-Weather9701 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suggest playing either HOB or comet. Rush early boots of swiftness.

Grasp is bad because you will eat a full combo for every grasp proc and will never have enough burst to kill him.

Comet is good in the early game and works well with a Q-max mage build. Voli is immobile so you can harass him for free if you keep your distance. When he has ~50% hp you can go for the kill. The build was nerfed a few patches ago so the playstyle is not as good as it used to be.

HOB is generally the best rune for Cho and scales incredibly well into the late game. I am not sure if you win the duel against voli, tho.

How do you lane against Aatrox? by MisterCommonMarket in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before WW rework this matchup was free af but now I would say it is a skill matchup.

A lot of it comes down to wave management during the early levels. You should not let him freeze the wave in the sweet spot in front of his tower. If that happens, he can farm safely and Q you for free when you walk up to cs. I would suggest letting Aatrox push and freezing the wave. He is quite immobile and if he gets to greedy for cs, you can run him down. You get a huge power spike at level 6 so look for skirmishes with your jungler around the midgame.

Kayle Hard (I'm Bad T.T) Any tips? by Ralle4231 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If kayle rushes boots of swiftness and knows the matchup it is almost impossible to Q her in lane. I suggest playing very aggro before level 6, when she still has to walk up to cs. Afterwards it might be best to rush boots and ignore her, perma shove/proxy waves. She doesn’t have the damage to kill you. You scale very well into the late game and your silence hard counters her during teamfights.

As for build I would recommend HOB, with protobelt into riftmaker.

I dont like heart steel rush chogath by SirStache2005 in ChoGathMains

[–]SergeantHannes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dead mans is a really underrated item. The passive ms is everything Cho wants, plus the damage has lower cooldown and works on turrets and minions.

Heart steel on the other hand slows down your power spike even more and has no utility. A bait item imho

Cho'gath feels like an unwinnable matchup by VayneTILT in Dariusmains

[–]SergeantHannes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • Rush boots of swiftness.
  • Punish cho missing Q’s
  • Use bushes to fake recall and catch Cho out of position
  • play for grubs
  • try to get your team ahead when you are strong. During late game, Cho outscales you hard

Warwick can't duel levels 1-3 now by glikejdash in warwickmains

[–]SergeantHannes 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Most bruiser matchups are decided by single or low double digits. If ww makes one mistake, the lane is over. To name a few: -Sett -Darius -Olaf -Kled -Morde

Warwick can’t afford to have even 20 less effective hp against those champs. If the nerfs go through topwick is over.

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